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  1. NEPettyOfficer72

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    So while I was at work today, we were all talking about football and I came up with a poll... it was 29 of us and I asked them who do you all think is the best qb in the NFL and I got everybody to write down their choices (we passed the piece of paper around) and I'll type exactly what they wrote.. I told them I would post it on this forum, but want feedback from all of you. Of course names are anonymous


    Person #1 - Aaron Rodgers is the best in the NFL currently

    Person #2 - Brady, Rings + Playoff success

    Person #3 - Rogers

    Person #4 - Rogers he can run!

    Person #5 - Peyton Manning

    Person #6 - TB, and he maybe the GOAT

    Person #7 - Brady

    Person #8 - guy doesn't age, Brady all day

    Person #9 - TOM

    Person# 10 - Rodgers, would be Tom but Rodgers can run

    Person#11 - Peyton Manning.. slightly over Brady

    Person#12 - Brady, Jordan of football

    Person#13 - Close.. would take Rogers, don't know

    Person#14 - Tom Brady had bad defense and still went to AFC Champ games

    Person#15 - Montana vs Brady lol

    Person#16 - Aaron Rodgers

    Person#17 - Rodgers, but a hair over Brady

    Person#18 - Tom.. dude remains best of the best

    Person#19 - Peyton?

    Person#20 - BRADY BEST EVA! but Go 49ers lol

    Person#21 - Tom

    Person#22 - A-A-R-O-N R-O-D-G-E-R-S

    Person#23 - Tom a beast but Rodgers that Fire!

    Person#24 - dude 36 yrs old but still deadly accurate got to go with Golden boy

    Person#25 - Rodgers, Manning don't know

    Person#26 - Brady, T

    Person#27 - ALL 3! LOL No... Aaron or Tom, aaron by a centimeter

    Person#28 - Tom - no brainer

    Person#29 - Brady
  2. NEPettyOfficer72

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    Don't see a lot of love for Peyton lol and Brees is not even on there? lol ..
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    what about "Ceiling Unlimitedchez!"...oh wait...this isn't azz vs. face...sorry
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    Looks like a dual between Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.. and honestly, coming from different fans of the league I'm amazed by the respect that Tom still gets, I thought people hate us
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    Success tends to be hated. That doesn't mean it's denied.
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    As an aside, the next time you watch the Packers, just concentrate solely on Rodgers. The kid is a phenom. I love Tom and wouldn't swap him for anyone, whilst I respect the heck out of Goober and Brees - but Rodgers is the best in the league by quite a wide margin. He's absolutely poetry in motion. You can't help but like him and respect the way he goes about his business. No histrionics and whining, no throwing team-mates under the bus - just God-given talent on display to the extreme. It's a pleasure to watch him.
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    Yep, when Tom gets at least his 4th ring it will be undeniable that he is the goat.
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    When did Tom throw someone under the bus? And just for kickers isn't success measured in championships. Isn't that the standard really for a QB?
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    Who mentioned Brady throwing people under-the bus? And have you seen the Packers recently? Their D is worse than ours, yet he wins them so many games.
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    Unless he gets behind late, in which case he's not so good.
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    When all a team can do is pass pass pass, then the chance of them coming back from a fourth quarter deficit is slim to none, especially when the defense couldn't stop a Pop Warner team.

    The Packers are what they are, a team that needs to win the game from the start, like a pace-setter with the stamina to only go so far and for so long.
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    Rodgers = winner has become very overrated.
    He has one season with more than 11 wins, and in that season he lost in his first playoff game.
    He has one SB season, but other than that is 1-3 in the postseason beating only the weak 12 Vikings playing without their starting QB.

    In terms of winning, he has 1 excellent regular season, and 1 excellent post season.

    As far as his defense, the year he won the SB they were 2nd in points and 5th on yards.
    Their average rankings since he became the starter are 12 and 14 last year they were 11 and 11. You are taking the one poor defensive season (2011) and projecting it to other years. Taking that season out their average rankings are 10.5 and 9.5, in other words a borderline top 10 D.
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    I have seen it, but when our D was 31st in 2011 we almost won it all. Rodgers flopped like a fish out of water. He is good, but he isn't great. Brady defines great.
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    That link says Rodgers is one of the 2 worst EVER at 4th quarter comebacks. Take that for what its worth, but your response implies he has the 2nd worst ever supporting cast.
    The Packers are a strong team with a good defense (that stunk one year) a TON of weapons for Rodgers to throw to and a usually decent (but for last year) running game that they choose to not use much.
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    Rodgers also has Mike McCarthy, who inexplicably runs the ball on 1st and 2nd downs despite an elite QB and no running game whatsoever, and is extremely conservative on 4th down. I've seen them move the ball at will only for McCarthy to call for a FG on the 30 on 4th and 1. If Belichick were coaching the Packers I seriously think they could average close to 38-40 points per game.

    It's not sacrilege to suggest that Rodgers is better than Brady right now. He can read defenses almost as well as Brady does, has a better deep ball, and much more mobility. And if you want to crap on Rodgers' recent playoff record, keep in mind his 2011 MVP season ended at the hands of the Giants, who destroyed their offensive line and their offense's rhythm. I think we can be sympathetic to that situation.
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    why isnt Brees in this discussion? lol Beats Manning and Rogers on most stats. Just saying, and same SB count. This a guys we like club?

    eer did Brees loss points for being intellegent, having his own opinion, anoying, to small, or the mole ,hehe
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    I know this is a Patriots board and all and we are all Patriots fan, so may be extremely biased...but it's Brady look since Brady took over he has been compared to Manning, followed by Manning and Brees then Bree's and Rodgers and now Manning and Brees one constant remained the same and that is Brady. So glad he is our quarterback
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    I wouldn't give up Brady for any of these guys on the spot, but that doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the other excellent QB play happening in this league right now. Goodell wanted it this way, and he got it.
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    He should be. He had a sub-par year by his standards, but that defense was worse than what the Pats trotted out in 2011, and that team went through serious turmoil. Brees is still elite until proven otherwise.
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    If QB success/greatness were measured by Championships, then you'd have to conclude that Trent Dilfer was a better QB than the likes of Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, Warren Moon, and Dan Fouts. Also, that he would be on par with guys like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Brett Favre. Something seems kind of off kilter about that assessment :)
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    Peyton Manning is 9-11 in the playoffs with 5 home losses as the #1 seed twice, #2 seed twice and #3 seed once.

    Those just are not GOAT numbers not even remotely close. Yes he is a great regular season QB but he chokes in post season .

    Also his 1 SB victory came against a Rex Grossman led bears , one of the worst teams to ever make it that far.
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    I'm probably going to get "smacked" now ... :rocker: lol, but here goes ...

    I'm not a Manning fan, however, in the comparison of the above mentioned, I would say Manning above Brady above Rodgers ...;

    I've always thought Brady "owes" alot of his succes to Belichick, mostly evident by the season Brady got injured, Cassel was still able to lead the Patriots to an 11-5 record (but look at Cassel now ... ) I'm not saying Brady isn't a great QB, because he is, just that without Belichick, he probably wouldn't be in consideration for GoaT ...

    Rodgers; (being a Packer fan I may be considered biased ...) But Rodgers isn't anywhere near the level of Brady, let alone Manning (yet). IF Rodgers can continue his performance on a level ón paar with the 2011 season, for several more years, then he might be considered, but so far Rodgers has had the benefit of having (probably) the most talented and deepest (talentwise) receiver core, up till now in the NFL ... Even Flynn was able to break a single game record of 5-6 Tds in a game ...

    Rodgers is an extremely gifted QB, and We have been very lucky, in having QBs in succession with such talents, but lets wait to compare Rodgers to Brady and Manning just yet, because I doubt Rodgers would have had the same success elsewhere, which I also believe about Brady ..., but unlike Brady, "Mc'Lardy" isn't ón BBs level, however, the Packers receivers and TEs make Rodgers look better than he is ...

    Manning has been able to lead his teams in both Indy and now also in Denver, despite not having as much succes in the post season, I would still give Manning the edge above Brady, mostly because Manning in spite of having different coaches, was still able to lead his teams ...

    Just a few thoughts from Denmark ... ;-)
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    I'd definitely have to disagree with you. Manning is a great QB, but a lot of that also has to do with the "system" that he runs. Funny thing, for all Manning's "brilliance", the offense Tom Moore put in, and that Manning has been successful with, was ridiculously simple. They basically ran about 15 plays, they just executed them very well and teams had trouble stopping them. Here's a good write up about it at Smartfootball.

    Peyton Manning (and Tom Moore)’s Indianapolis Colts Offense: How a Handful of Plays Led to a Decade of Success | Smart Football

    And here's an article at Grantland talking about how Denver basically switched over to the offense Manning ran with the Colts.

    How a return to the simplicity of Peyton Manning's Indy offense has ignited the Denver Broncos - Grantland

    Doesn't mean that Peyton isn't great, but puts things in a slightly different context.
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    I'm not disputing the simplicity of the offenses Manning has been running both in Indy and now in Denver, however, I'm just saying in my opinion, between the above mentioned QBs, I'd give Manning the "edge" ... When (if?) Belichick and Brady is able to win a fourth title, I'd probably concede Brady in contention for GoaT, but I also believe Belichick could win another title (with NE) without Brady, whereas I don't think Brady would win another (in NE) without Belichick ... (I know I'm going to get some serious flak because of my last sentence heh) :bricks:
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    I do also think Rodgers is the best right now, but only because he's in his prime and Brady is 36! Brady's 2007 & 2010 seasons where his best, and some of the best qb play I ever seen.
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    On the face of it the argument about playing great under different head coaches gives Manning an advantage but when you scratch beneath the surface you'll find that it actually is an advantage that should be given to Brady when considering continuity!

    The reason I say that is because despite having different head coaches manning is the Defacto offensive coordinator! He has ran the same offense his whole career and largely with the same all star cast!

    Brady despite having the one head coach has had several offensive coordinators who all implemented completely different offensive schemes! Brady has adapted to a different cast of receivers at least every second year and has had his favourite targets leave time and again unlike Manning!

    If you're are putting Manning on the podium as number one because he has had no continuity then you should maybe move him down a number of spots, it really is Brady that has had no continuity and has done remarkable things with an ever evolving offensive cast and strategy!
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    Re: Re: Brady vs Rodgers vs Manning

    As good as I feel when I read posts like this, I can't help but think how the discussion would have already been over if not for 2006, 2007, and 2012.
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    People have got to stop this brady is the greatest nonsense. who cares? it's a TEAM game. honestly there are more brady fans on this board than there are patriots fans. i much rather have a discussion about the patriots vs. packers vs. broncos and who is the best TEAM heading into next season.
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    Re: Re: Brady vs Rodgers vs Manning

    I hear you, but these discussions have been taking place for as long as sports has been played. And I want my QB to be part of those discussions.
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    There is no supportable argument for the position that Peyton Manning is better than Tom Brady at playing the Quarterback position.

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