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    Patriots coach Belichick makes non-subtle point on Spikes - The Boston Globe

    We'll have to see what this means for the game, but hopefully he'll get up to speed. It would be nice to have him in there for run defense.
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    That's not a huge indictment on Spikes, IMO. He hadn't practiced in four weeks. I can tell you that when I played football and had to miss a period of time due to either injury or illness that I looked pretty terrible (blew assignments, winded, out of shape) when I first came back to practice. Generally speaking, it takes a week or so to get back up to speed. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that Spikes looks a lot better and more comfortable in practice this week.
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    I'm hoping it's not a conditioning issue like one would have after an injury (I've been there too). That would be bad for two reasons: 1) he wasn't hurt and didn't condition himself? and 2) getting up to speed on that would probably take longer than a week (after missing four).

    I think it might be his reaction to plays and maybe a bit of vertigo on the football field. That happens and if that's the issue, I think it could be corrected within a couple days.

    I just had a thought that BB could be putting this nugget out there for public consumption to place a bit of doubt about Spikes' availability for the game. Now THAT'S how you play the media.
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    Well, generally speaking, you can condition yourself all you want. You can jog five miles a day for four weeks and be in good shape. However, being in good shape and being in football shape are two different things. BB highlighted the differences there before as well (most recently, when talking about Mankins). That's more or less what I was talking about in my first response to your thread.
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    I think he's not up to game conditions but I also think BB is keeping one of his young guys humble and motivated.
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    This was my first thought too. When a young player makes a stupid mistake like he did, it's a bad idea to give him any shred of thought that it'll just be ok when he gets back. All the good will and trust he earned with his coach needs to be EARNED back, and I think Spikes has the attitude to feed off that too.
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    I agree. I can't imagine Spikes just sitting around and not working out, etc. Yes... his reactions will be slowed, but I firmly believe that this message was being sent to the OTHER players on the team about how to straighten up and fly right.

    If it causes some other concerns with future opponents, then all the better.
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    Agreed, If BB had said, "He looked great, like he'd never been away." Wouldn't we be wondering if our coach had been replaced by a Pete Caroll robot?
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    Leave in Fletcher then. I think he could be better suited to this game anyway. Sanchez is only successful when he utilizes play action well and hits his underneath targets consistently when they're fairly wide open. Meaning we'll need to cover LT out of the backfield a lot and watch Keller. Fletcher has shown he's pretty good at covering backs, and between him, Guyton, and the safeties, we should be able to cover Keller.
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    BB knows how to light a fire.....

    LOVE it.
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    Things Rex Ryan would say
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    In his presser, Patricia felt that Spikes would be fine.

    I don't see this as alarming.

    If he was returning from a serious injury, there would be more cause for concern.
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    I am surprised a bit by the reaction of the coaches on this. It is not typical. So it is either he is really awful or it is just smoke and screens.
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    It is what it is.

    Football shape can't be achieved by not playing. Remember the ad nauseum analysis about sitting out the last game and it's potential impact on player readiness? That's what the coach's comments were about on the 1st level. On the 2nd level it's a message to Spikes that future crap like this is not 'OK'.
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    Maybe if he said he looks "pumped and jacked" it would be a more coach like response:D:D:D
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    Belichick would have said the same thing even if the kid looked like Lawrence Taylor out there in practice. :rocker:
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    Gonna need this guy back on the field. If only for 1st and 2nd downs. IE running downs. I can believe that he will not be back in "football shape". Limit his reps then. I wouldn't expect him on the field for every down.

    We shall see.

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    Spikes will be fine. If he stuffs the run well against the stinkin rottin Jets, he will be on his way out of the doghouse in no time.
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    Some draft day goodies on the kid.
    Think he'll be any good?
    heh.

    62 Brandon spikes LB 6-3 255
    the two-time captain old-school inside guy
    dropped 30 pounds switch from DL to LB

    Wilfork’s wife, Bianca Tweeted, “Riding in car with @wilfork75 he is very excited about spikes pick been talking about him all day. @wilfork75 says this guy is a play maker.”

    Alabama QB Greg McElroy, Tweet, “Cunningham just got picked from florida. He along with Brandon spikes were the 2 that broke my ribs. Sandwiched me in the 3rd quarter.”

    Bb “Big guy, big for an inside linebacker,”“Very highly respected - and of course, came with a good recommendation from Doc. Of course, I appreciated that. He can keep an eye on him up here, keep his daughter a little closer to home.”

    (Dating Callie Rivers, the daughter of Celtics coach Doc Rivers. She plays volleyball for the Gators.)
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    I guess my biggest surprise was that anything was said at all. As I said in my last post; after some reflection, I really think he's tweaking the media here.
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    I don't think you can chalk this up entirely to BB just saying a non-chalant meaningless and general statement. When he answers questions in such a way, he usually says that they did some things well (and sometimes says them in particular) and then says that they also have things they can improve upon... it's textbook and you can almost see it coming every presser. But if his statement was limited to this quote, then that's a surprising bit of tongue-lashing from BB, IMO.
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    I expect he'll be out there at the start. If he holds up, he'll remain out there on 1st and 2nd downs. I expect he'll hold up.
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    "He needs to get his footwork down, but don't worry Jets fans I'm personally helping him with that. *drools*"

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    FYP.

    Thats Belichick just saying nothing about his situation as per usual.
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    Right after I read the title I pictured Spikes watching Lifetime while downing buckets of Ben and Jerrys for the past month. Glad to see Bill just needs to whip him back into shape.
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    Spikes out of shape?

    One of the knuckleheads on The Big Show said that Spikes came back from the suspension out of shape? Is there any truth to this?

    I noticed that BB did not seem real excited when they asked him about Spike's return but it could just be the usual BB reticence.
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    Re: Spikes out of shape?

    Being generally out of shape and being out of football shape are two different things. I would venture a guess that it was the latter in Spikes' case.
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    Re: Spikes out of shape?

    I'm sure he'll have some rust, but he'll still make plays out there. We just need him to be effective stopping the run, which I'm sure he will be.
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    Re: Spikes out of shape?

    Too much Chatroulette? :bricks:
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    Re: Spikes out of shape?

    If he is out of shape I'm starting to question if Spikes is a patriot player.

    Fletcher is right on his tail so he better not be out of shape. :D
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