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  1. Buchanty

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    I have been hibernating since the SB. Not in denial, not in anger and not in dismay, although I experienced all three soon afterwards. But it has taken me over a week to realize that I have become disaffected with football. I have been a fan of the Patriot’s since 1983, and have trodden the hard road of defeat too often in the past to recognize that this time it is something different.

    So here then are what I have determined to be the four layers of disaffection on what should have been a season to end all seasons.

    Number 1 of course is Spygate. But what made this much much worse than it ever needed to be was the levels of hypocrisy, calumny and dishonesty amongst all involved with the NFL including the media. The NFL did not show and seems to have no intention to ever clarify the video crime, as a Pats fan I can only surmise that it is against the rules to video the field (including opposing team’s coaches) from the sidelines. But no clarification came. Nor did they clarify that stealing signals is acceptable, as was proven in the Patriots –Miami game in the previous season. Instead the NFL was content that spygate was a miasma of popular opinion heated and prodded by the mouths of the media. Only a few (Jimmy Johnston) stood up and stated what all the media had to know already but chose to ignore – that the Patriots were never alone in the practice. As a result even the most respectable of publications now uses the term cheaters when describing the Patriots, while the other 31 teams are blameless.

    Number 2 is the level of hate leveled against the Patriots by fans of other teams and more disgustingly some journalists (members of the media who should know the reality of signal stealing). All through the season I listened to those advocating “embracing the hate”, and it never felt comfortable. Sport isn’t about hate, it’s about competition, it’s about raising humankind to greater levels of athleticism and achievement. Hate is the very opposite of the ideals of sport. It lowers the human condition, it closes the mind and weakens the spirit. Many times through the season I heard grown men encourage the breaking of legs and kneecaps (yet again including several media personalities). Yes football is a physical game but it should never be uncivilized and should never encourage the willful destruction of players and careers. I recognize that the internet has facilitated the ease with which people can insult and denigrate each other, as well as providing long lasting platforms for vitriol and ill-thought opinion. The Patsfans message board seemed to understand that better than most and tolerated many of the trolls, while excluding the worst from our eyes. I enjoy talking and discussing things with rival fans, but hate excludes empathy and rationalization. Embracing hate only fuels negative passions.

    Number 3 is the postseason character assassination of the coach and members of the team. The regular season was majestic, 16-0 the best feeling in the world. The team prevailed against the tough games and came out shining. And then came the dirt! Randy Moss was the first target, and what should have been largely ignored by the media became a crusade for the anti-Pats cheerleaders. The evidence was flimsy beyond belief. Even when the player faced the press without a prepared statement, encouraged by two lawyers of the highest standing, he was not believed and the three ring circus ran for two weeks. And I have every reason to believe that it affected Moss; 2 catches in 2 games had more to do with the court action than the actions of the Jags and Bolts. But it didn’t end then either, because 2 days before the SB we had Specter and Walsh. A threat of congressional hearings and examination by the government filled our screens (on what basis I still cannot determine because it is neither a federal or state crime to steal signals). Not a word from the rest of Congress on this one though…..yet the threat promised to open up the past on the Patriots previous Superbowl triumphs. All this without a scrap of evidenceand the fact that the Spygate misdemeanor covered a rule that was introduced in2006. As I was sitting through all this it occurred to me that I was watching an episode of the Sopranos or any one of the 3 Godfather films. After all what does the Don do when he wants something from someone (and it usually doesn’t matter whether they are family or not)? He threatens them with the loss of something. It was almost as if the NFL was telling the Patriots not to win the SB. I must apologize for this speculative comment, but it does give a sense of the feelings of a fan of the coerced.

    Number 4 is the post SB reaction. I can understand that majority of fans of all other teams did not want the Patriots to win (I wanted the Bears last year after all). And I can also understand the loss of attention once thePats failed to win. But to hear fans booing the Patriot representatives at the Pro-Bowl says that sportsmanship is no longer a characteristic of the game. This was meant to be the reward for an unprecedented season (and it still is unprecedented), instead they were reviled like BB, like Moss like the franchise. Somehow the lionization of Eli amplifies the situation. But then again images of the mob and their promotion of the family reminded me of how the NFL treats the Mannings, but praising mediocrity while condemning excellence just eludes my comprehension. I cant even find words to describe Mercury Morris and Shula (sportmen is not one that comes to mind).

    I am not sure if I can be as ardent a fan as before. This season has been tainted, not be cheating, but by the irrational, unsportsmanlike actions of football barbarians (and yes they include many of the sport journalists and celebrities).

    Finally I do think that the Giants deserved to win and should be praised for an incredible effort. I also think that Patriots should also be praised for making it one of the more memorable games in my lifetime (especially thanks to Welker who tied a SB record in his 1st appearance, and TFB for taking the punishment like a man, still leading a drive in the 4th quarter and most of all for not throwing his O'line under the bus!). I hope that the hate will go away so that I can enjoy future seasons, but somehow I doubt it.
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    Embrace the hate, as long as BB/Brady are leading our team, there will be people who hate.
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    I understand where you're coming from with a lot of this--I think it did start to wear everybody down a little bit by the end of the season. That's one of the reasons the loss was so disheartening--there was a lot of BS to put up with, and we didn't have validation.

    But keep in mind we "put up" with a lot of great stuff too. And more to the point, the hate, as misguided as it was and is, largely comes from the Pats success. People don't bother to hate mediocre teams--"Those damn Arizona Cardinals!" They hate the teams that dominate, as the Pats have done. (For the record, I've always liked when there was a dominant team, to measure where my team was.) In some ways, it's not as much fun. But in other ways it's better. Just take a break for awhile--check out free agency, the draft, and come July/August, I bet you'll be ready for football again.
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    Don't let all the hate etc take away from your enjoyment of the Game. Understand that not ALL oppositions fans hate the pats, I did not, well for 60 minutes I did of course, being a Giants fan.
    It was a crazy year in the NFL but your team did accomplish something that has only been done twice before, and that is go the Reg season undefeated.
    If you let the media bother you you will get old fast, those frontrunners make up crap to sell stories, heck right before the SB plax gave a score 23-17 Not once did he say WHO scores the 23 but Ralph Vacchiano the hack for the NY Daily News ( A rag if ever there was one) blew it ALL out of proportion and claimed it was a guarentee. The medi blows monkey chunks.
    Enjoy the sport let this go and you will be back next year screaming for your team. Good luck
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    its been quite a transition from underdogs to favorites. by winning every game, i came to expect it ! i'm affraid i've gotten very spoiled, and this has changed my outlook on things. i believe i'm guilty of taking our team for granted. instead of appreciating what has been the greatest season i've ever seen. SHAME ON ME:bricks:
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    Great post, you really summed up my feelings well. I've been a fan since I was a kid back in 1960 - and I've never had such a strange, disheartened, odd, feeling as this one that I have currently. I'm planning on taking a couple months off from the all-things NFL, then see how I feel about April or so. But thanks again for an excellent post.
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    Wow.
    An incredibly eloquent and well thought out post.

    I share many of your feelings.....

    but I wonder if you will feel differently on Opening day next September.


    The Patriots have an incredibly loyal group of fans, and your comments make it clear that hanging in there and supporting the team makes the most sense.
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    Great post. I think you nailed how many of us feel. Great job.
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    Bruce Allen over at Patriotsdaily.com wrote a scathing piece on Friday that pretty much echos your feelings. I linked to it and posted some excerpts in another thread earlier today, but it really fits here better.

    http://www.patriotsdaily.com/
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    Great points. I must say, once Spygate was rehashed I was completely drained of emotion to the point where I had no feelings left in me. The media had taken it all away, and for that I will continue to be bitter, refuse to watch anything or read anything sports related. This is my main source for all of that.

    There are only a few places in the media I may take a look at once the season comes...i really can't wait for '08...I'm sure the hating will resume but this time
    I refuse to get caught up in the media BS
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    Good post. You sum up a lot of my emotions as well. I was at the Super Bowl, and the only feeling I had the whole time was I just wanted the season & game to be over. It wasn't the least bit enjoyable for me (for all the reasons you enumerate).

    I'm just relieved it's finally over with one way or another. Btw, I've been avoiding all tv & print football media. I advise you do the same. ;)
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    I understand your feeling. Your four points are symptoms of the season in my view. Once the team was penalized after that first week, the team took on the mantle of aggrieved and disrespected. They drew together tight as a team in reaction. They seemed to make it their mission to pay it all back. It didn't matter that the world hated the team, they were putting it to everyone. Every time an opponent opened their mouth, payback! The enjoyment of putting it to the league drove the team and the fans. The big problem with not finishing is that completion of that payback was similarly incomplete.
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    You will always have a target on your back if you are the best team, and even though the Pats didn't win the SB, I believe the majority would still consider the Pats the best team of the '07 season. And next year, you'll be right back in the thick of things as far as contenders for the playoffs/SB. Would you rather be the Dolphins or Raiders?

    However, I do understand where you're coming from. What happened to the days when we used to celebrate the great teams/players (Bears, Cowboys, etc)? I think a lot of it has to do with younger fans who tend to be a little spoiled these days and not very mature. Seriously, a lot of the smack I've witnessed on Patsfans.com (and I mean the posts that are nothing more than you s*ck) are probably from male fans between the ages of 10 and 20. Believe me, we get plenty on the Chargers boards as well.

    With regards to the media, well, it's the media. Revenue for the media comes via advertising, and to increase revenue, nothing like a little scandal here or there, or demonize a team, etc. It's unfortunate, but that's the way the world turns.

    Keep your chins up Pats fans. You had an AMAZING season, and should look forward to a new year. My guess is the whole Spygate shennanigans will somehow fizzle out during the offseason (which it should IMO) and maybe next year we can all get back to what we love - football, as opposed to the NFL Soap Opera that we saw in '07.
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    Great original post. You summed up almost to the word how this season has left me feeling. Which at this point, is pretty much empty. And not empty because Im disappointed with how the team played or how the season ended. The team played incredible ball all season and handled an incredible amount of pressure that none of us, or the many hateful fans out there, or any of the other 31 teams in the league can possibly comprehend. And I can handle the losing of the SB. Though strange as it seems to actually lose another big game as was the case last season. But the emptiness comes from the disappointment I feel for so many human beings out there filled with seemingly so much hate. And of course I understand sports and football are little more than a superficial means to release emotion. But the hate I felt and witnessed this year from so many Americans toward a football team left me feeling just empty and disappointed. And it never stopped. Its not limited to our team. It seems to be contagious throughout much of the sports world. And its quite sad. Disaffected. That's a pretty good way of looking at it. Life lesson learned. But its a tough pill to swallow, because to do so would be to simply accept the hate. And something in my makeup just doesnt allow that to happen.
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    I'm a fan of another team but you may want to hear me.

    There is only one way for the Patriots fans to end this disaffection that the OP so adequately put into words. I understand that the Patriots Nation, for the most part, feels disliked and alone. However, it is not because of the media as much as it is this: Bill Belichick.

    You must get rid of Bill Belichick.

    There is now a phenomenon known as Belichick Derangement Syndrome. Supposedly he cheated even though he probably didn't do anything worse than other coaches. Unfortunately that's not the way it played out. What really hurts him was the NFL validated through punishment that he did something worse than other coaches.

    Real success can be obtained by the Pat's fans as in having a 16-0 season. But you will never have emotional success even with a 16-0 season as long as BB is the coach.

    Media and other teams fans do not hate the Patriots - we all love winners. Tom Brady is a class act and may go down as the best QB ever to have played the game. You guys are truly a dynasty. But do you ask yourself, "Why doesn't it feel that way?" If you do it's because you've been tainted rightly or wrongly.

    I know you love him but BB must go.
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    I know you're not serious...now i know this is the biggest piece of wishful thinking i have ever read in my life...you're not being sarcastic are you? I mean you can not possibly think that if any other team (yours included) got a chance to snatch up BB in a heartbeat they wouldn't...why do you think his coordinators are always the "hottest new coaching prospect" year in and year out? BB is at the top and everyone else is looking up at his way of doing things. This is the model organization of the era, like it or not, admit it or not, but that's the truth. I had a wonderful season, but the superbowl emotionally was robbed bc of the media's shenanigans...if we won than i would have had a VERY emotionally successful season, doesn't matter whether other fans like it or not
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    I agree with the OP (and the article). I was talking to my pop about it this week. It was alomst easier being a fan in the early 90's then it was this year. We sucked, we expected nothing from the team and got nothing in return. We came out even in the end.

    This year was............... draining. I don't even mind that we lost, only in that the only validation of all the crap we endured would have com in victory.
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    man, what a great post ! sums up how i feel to a T. unfortunately i can't help but feel the superbowl loss contributes to this. if we had won, i don't think i would have as much remorse.


    espn is a joke. i haven't watched in 15 years and this year didn't change my thinking.
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    Maybe not you but the OP and allot of Patriot fans feel this way. Here's how he starts his 4 points:

    1) Number 1 of course is Spygate.
    2) Number 2 is the level of hate leveled against the Patriots by fans of other teams and more disgustingly some journalists (members of the media who should know the reality of signal stealing).
    3) Number 3 is the postseason character assassination of the coach and members of the team.
    4) Number 4 is the post SB reaction.

    I don't care what happens to the Patriots or what their fans think but I'm just telling you that the only escape from the 4 above points in to get rid of BB.
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    It's only one layer for me: losing the SB

    The way we lost--being out-hit, -physicalled, -played, and -coached--just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Parts of the game for a Patriots fan were pitiful. Not challenging the Thomas fumble recovery when replays showed he clearly had it and was down? Not making offensive adjustments, other than Brady looking for Welker. What the hades happened to our good offensive line? I'd like to ask Dante that.

    Going 18-0 only to lose the SB in one of the greatest upsets of all time, is a boner of Brobdingnagian proportions.

    How does a franchise bounce back after that? By winning the SB. A couple of times this decade.

    I'm ready to ditch the team (I'm no fair weather fan) after being a faithful fan since 1978--Dan Pastorini killing us in the playoffs, the Rod Rust 2-14 debacle, Mosi Tatupu's fumble in Denver, the 2-14 Parcells basement season; it all pales in comparison to the pain that we've just been through in early Feb. '08.

    It hurts too much to want to participate as a Patriots fan again. And I've vowed not to do so unless and until they get back to the Big Dance. Sundays will be family and work days from now on in the fall. I've always got college football on Saturdays with my Michigan State Spartans.

    There's too much shadenfreude, man. A co-worker whom I despise just can't get enough of bringing up the game. He is a Colts fan, and he is thoroughly delighted.

    Looking at their respective records, does it make any sense that a Colts fan can hold his head higher than we can? I think not. Yet, it's the case.

    Who would have thought Logan Mankins's pathetic play would have made me pine for Billy Yates?
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