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    most of this hate article is worn out crap about cheating and brady being a pretty boy blah blah. i have to say however that wilfork hit on losman is pretty hard to defend as clean.

    http://touchdown.org/patriots/16-reasons-to-root-against-the-patriots.php

    don't know how you hate pats for that and not titans for haynesworth stepping on a guy's face, broncos when romonowski spit in jj stokes face, sapp for cheap shot on packers olineman, etc etc .... guess when your pats you're just held to higher standards.
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    I hate brady because he gets supermodels and I don't.
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    He also had tara reid too that is pretty bad.
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    I'd say the Losman hit is easy to defend. Wilfork was falling forward, and guys that size break their wrists if they fall arms extended. The proper way to fall to avoid inuring yourself is on the meat of your forearms (arms bent).

    As Losman was still roughly behind the center and Wilfork lines up over center, and you do not have a full view ahead through a facemask, and given the absence of dirty play in his history, I can accept that as accidental.

    The Jacobs facemask poke is harder to defend, That just wasn't a good idea, whatever he was doing.
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    I still don't get people saying the Wilfork hit was dirty. He wasn't even looking at Losman, he was getting taken out from behind, and his head was damn near parallel to the ground and facing down. His elbow looks like it's extending to break his fall, not to hurt Losman. It doesn't even make any sense, if you want to hit a quarterback and hurt him, why use your elbow to deliver what's likely to be a glancing blow, when you could just piledrive him when you got near him and drop 350+ on his chest, or roll up on his legs? I don't see a dirty hit there, I see a guy who really is made of glass, J.P. Loserman himself.
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    actually i see the eye poke as accidental. guys point at each other all the time after football plays. given how hard it is to stick a finger thru a face mask they dont even think of poking someone in the eye. when you get as close as jacobs and wilfork accidents can happen. jacobs wasnt even hurt and played the rest of the game and every game since.
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    16 reasons I'm writing about hating the Pats: #1-16 = ""I wish the Pats were my team"
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    lets be serious. if someone did that to TB we'd go batpoop. i actually think JP showed a lot of resilience coming back from that. looked worse than knee hit that put carson palmer out for what would have been a season against steelers in playoffs.
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    tara reid is gross and a mess... sorry...
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    wtf is up with her stomach? looks like she delivered will wilfork
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    it wasn't accidental, but it wasn't dirty or any big deal.
    it was just wilfork messing w/him --- another day in the nfl.
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    poking someone in the eye can never be "just messing w/him." if it was deliberate it was dirty. i think it was neither. look again he pushed on his face mask a bit. finger never went for his eye. again jacobs wasnt hurt a bit
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    Err, earth to Tom, pointing is not poking, and the poke through the face mask wasn't an "accident".
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    what poke? jacobs didnt make a single move to indicate he'd been poked in the eye. wilfork just kind of pushed and grabbed his facemask. i'd take that any day over a 325 lb guy drilling an elbow into my knee
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    The hand in the facemask thing is tougher to defend because it is not a momentum or control argument. Personally, I don't think he was trying to poke Jacobs in the eye (what type of sissy does that? Angry football players are more inclined to hit another player in the head.), but there is plenty of room to doubt why his hand was near the facemask.

    And I do not think you can compare the hit on Palmer with Wilfork's hit on Losman. Wilfork pushes forward as a nose tackle, and Losman was almost directly in Wilfork's path. How was he going to stop moving in that direction under the circumstances? The only question was why his arm was bent rather than straight. Von Oelhoffen, by way of contrast, rolled toward Palmer and up his knee in an awkward manner that did not reflect his fall. He may have been trying to take Palmer down, but he did so in an illegal manner that almost certainly would immobilize Palmer's foot and put his leg in a position to take serious damage.

    And yes, any hit on Brady invokes outrage from fans, but that's why we're fans. In the end, if there is a reasonable explanation for the hit, I can accept it. I was not outraged by Harrison's injury in the Titans game until rumors of the Titans celebrating surfaced.
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    I love all the "I hate the Patriots" bandwagon jumpers. When they disappear, then we will know we have jumped the shark.
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    What? Are you kidding me? That hit on Palmer was awful, his whole knee buckled from behind. It was immediately obvious his knee was torn to shreds. If someone hit Brady like Wilfork hit Losman, I'd be upset that Brady got hurt, but I wouldn't call it dirty.
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    yeah, and he didn't poke him in the eye, now did he, jackhole?
    he stuck his finger in there and poked his face to f w/him because of how jacobs is.

    I can't believe people need to talk about everything they put a camera on.
    does jacobs have an issue w/it?
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    yo jack cough, pay attention. it's obvious in my posts im saying the eye poke wasn't dirty and wasn't even an eye poke. i have a harder time defending the hit on losman as "momentum" and breaking falls w/ elbows as as mass says. if thats the case you'd see plenty of examples of NTs drilling QBs in the legs with their elbow. thats not the case
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