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You are assuming that I haven't seen him play, watched highlights or read about him. Hell Gary Guyton had a good 2009 numbers wise but started because he had to.

Gimme a little more credit that that.


I'll give you more credit when you start making more sense. You've been way off your game for weeks, and this is just one example. You clearly didn't watch the guy play.
 
He had 82 tackles and 11 starts last year. That is starting caliber.

If you want to say he sucks then that is your prerogative.

Joe Vellano, Chris Jones, Gary Guyton all say hi.
 
I'll give you more credit when you start making more sense. You've been way off your game for weeks, and this is just one example. You clearly didn't watch the guy play.

Are you trying to get in my head?

You are a pain in the ass.

Spend some time watching this. Hes good.

 
Are you trying to get in my head?

No, I'm trying to get you to stop posting nonsense, and you posting a highlight reel of 3 plays in response is just more evidence that you're off your game. But don't take it from me:

Shea is a smart player and the coaches went out of their way throughout 2015 to applaud his impact on the defense. He also, once again, struggled to remain healthy for any substantial period of time and his level of play dropped precipitously once returning to the field.

Here’s how I’d summarize McClellin. He is constantly in position to make plays but rarely makes them. Is that a lack of physical ability? Maybe. Is that a lack of instincts? Definitely. Were his struggles this season more the result of a change to ANOTHER new position? Possibly.

Unlike many who’d like to see the Bears cut the Shea line, I’d like to see him return and continue to develop at middle linebacker. He won’t be expensive or require a lengthy deal so why not? At worst he’s a third linebacker off the bench who can also call signals.

Da Bears Blog | Shea McClellin



Grading the 2015 Bears: Linebacker Shea McClellin

I get why BB is taking a chance on the guy. That doesn't mean he's been starting quality to date. He simply hasn't.
 
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Are you trying to get in my head?

You are a pain in the ass.

Spend some time watching this. Hes good.

Granted I haven't watched Shea play at all, but just judging on this video he reminds me slightly of Mayo in the fact that he makes plays, but he's not a playmaker.
 
No, I'm trying to get you to stop posting nonsense, and you posting a highlight reel of 3 plays in response is just more evidence that you're off your game. But don't take it from me:



Da Bears Blog | Shea McClellin


Grading the 2015 Bears: Linebacker Shea McClellin

I get why BB is taking a chance on the guy. That doesn't mean he's been starting quality to date. He simply hasn't.
No, I'm trying to get you to stop posting nonsense, and you posting a highlight reel of 3 plays in response is just more evidence that you're off your game. But don't take it from me:



Da Bears Blog | Shea McClellin


Grading the 2015 Bears: Linebacker Shea McClellin

I get why BB is taking a chance on the guy. That doesn't mean he's been starting quality to date. He simply hasn't.

I read Hughes already. The F is a joke. Hughes is a little more reasonable. He doesn't hurt his knee he has a 100 tackle season his 1st year full time in the position. People *****ed that Mayo didn't make plays either. Hes no Mayo but what do people expect? Whats wrong with playing your position, carrying out your assignment and doing your job?

There is plenty more non-glamorous film on Shea to watch online. Hes fine. If he sucked I'd say so. Believe me.
 
Are you even trying to consider what people are telling you? (no)

Deus I'll listen to because he makes well reasoned points and Ive known him for a while.

I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say and I'm not even going to waste my time trying to decipher it.
 
Joe Vellano, Chris Jones, Gary Guyton all say hi.

Jones doesn't really support your argument. Chris Jones started 11 games for the 2014 SB winning squad, and might well have started some games last year if he wasn't on PUP/IR the whole season.
 
Granted I haven't watched Shea play at all, but just judging on this video he reminds me slightly of Mayo in the fact that he makes plays, but he's not a playmaker.

Hes somewhere between Mayo and Monty Beisel. Hopefully closer to the former.:p
 
Granted I haven't watched Shea play at all, but just judging on this video he reminds me slightly of Mayo in the fact that he makes plays, but he's not a playmaker.
At least you said "slightly". Mayo went over 100 tackles 4 of his first 5 years. This is no Mayo. But it took Bruschi--a better comparison IMHO-- a few years to develop after switching inside, so who knows?
 
Interesting how BB has plundered the Bears. I think he struck gold using a similar approach last year with Sheard and the Browns. Clearly he sees the inconsistency present in a team's coaching staff over a period of years as a factor which leads to undervalued assets and feels that he has a chance to salvage talented players at lower cost. I felt he did this earlier last year with Jon Bostic as well, another high draft pick who the Pats liked coming out of college (and who failed to show much last year). It should be very interesting to see how (if) these two players develop in the Pats system. I think the Pats view players in similar circumstances as a market inefficiency that they are trying to exploit and probably see a certain percentage failure rate as part of the cost of taking on this risk.
 
I read Hughes already. The F is a joke. Hughes is a little more reasonable. He doesn't hurt his knee he has a 100 tackle season his 1st year full time in the position. People *****ed that Mayo didn't make plays either. Hes no Mayo but what do people expect? Whats wrong with playing your position, carrying out your assignment and doing your job?

There is plenty more non-glamorous film on Shea to watch online. Hes fine. If he sucked I'd say so. Believe me.

Go back and look at my takes on Mayo. I never *****ed about the idea that he didn't make plays. I debunked those claims.

McClellin has not been starting quality, though, and saying he has is ludicrous.
 
Go back and look at my takes on Mayo. I never *****ed about the idea that he didn't make plays. I debunked those claims.

McClellin has not been starting quality, though, and saying he has is ludicrous.
I agree with you on Mayo and that is the point. Just because a player doesn't fly around the ball and isn't the second coming of Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis doesn't mean he isn't a solid if not a very good player. That blogger who gave him the F is a moron.

Anyway we disagree on Shea. Moving on.
 
I agree with you on Mayo and that is the point.

No, it's not. The point is that I don't go off half ****ed about LB evaluation, yet I still find your assessment of McClellin as a definite starter to this point to be laughable.

Just because a player doesn't fly around the ball and isn't the second coming of Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis doesn't mean he isn't a solid if not a very good player. That blogger who gave him the F is a moron.

The blogger who gave him the F is far closer to correct with regards to McClellin's play to date than are you. The guy you're pimping as a starter was drafted in round 1, not tendered a 5th year by his team, not brought back by his team, and clearly was not an early target of the desperate teams. He has not been a starting caliber player to this point in his career.

Meanwhile, your highlight real, which you put forth as if it meant something significant in your argument's favor, featured 3 plays. McClellin took himself out of position on the 3rd one, and got lucky with a lunge back. So, you essentially called a guy a good player because he did his job in 2 of 3 handpicked plays and didn't do his job on the third one but caught a huge break.

Anyway we disagree on Shea. Moving on.

Sure, but snap the hell out of whatever funk you're in.
 
There were a few years where BB was picking up a bunch of players that washed out of Oakland. And there was a phase more recently where he was picking up players that washed out at Tampa Bay. This year, it seems like he's picking up players who flopped in Chicago.

To me, buying low on multiple players from a specific program is a "tell" from BB the GM, that he thinks that roster has usable talent that is being mis-coached... he thinks those players, in a better and more productive teaching environment, have unrealized upside to cash in. It's the basis for making a value-based purchase. Ever the economist.

BB has told the media, in the past, that what a player has done in one system isn't always indicative of what they would be in the Pats system. As mentioned, Vrabel was a little-used depth player in Pittsburgh before BB made him a star. Welker was an little-known depth guy at Miami until BB played to his strengths. Plenty of examples. Rodney Harrison was washed out of San Diego, and Randy Moss has lost a step in Oakland. Etc.

Picking up all these cast-off players from the Bears makes sense to me from the perspective that Chicago has been recruiting players of a profile that fit the Pats criteria-- e.g. we all scouted McClellin for the Pats coming out of college, and he was general consensus a higher potential prospect than Chandler Jones that year. The Bears franchise has been struggling for years, but we don't have to assume it's because their players don't have talent.

Cooper, Hogan, McClennin, Bostic... these are all "buy low" players who don't have a big market for their services. We know BB loves panning for gold, it's how he finds Edelman, Lewis, Ninkovich, Stephen Neal, Malcom Butler. He shops in the discount aisle and buys a lot of trash, mounds of it. Then, he relies on one of the strongest coaching staffs in the NFL to polish them up into usable players.

I promise that a few of these buy low contracts will flop, but some will hit big. It has been the philosophy of this regime ever since BB got to Foxboro. Whether McClellin hits or not, be assured that BB thinks more likely than not he got a good deal on him.
It's those summers during his time at Wesleyan that Belichick spent working at Railroad Salvage that have led to this.
 
No, it's not. The point is that I don't go off half ****ed about LB evaluation, yet I still find your assessment of McClellin as a definite starter to this point to be laughable.

Ok go ahead and laugh.

The blogger who gave him the F is far closer to correct with regards to McClellin's play to date than are you. The guy you're pimping as a starter was drafted in round 1, not tendered a 5th year by his team, not brought back by his team, and clearly was not an early target of the desperate teams. He has not been a starting caliber player to this point in his career.

Deus that guy is terrible. You can't be serious.

They didn't pick up his 5th year option b/c it was $7.8m. With how much they screwed with him and how he was just learning the system I don't blame them for passing.

Teams were looking at him but he had played so many positons he hadn't built up a resume. It's like interviewing someone who has worked at 4 jobs in 5 years. You have no idea what that person can/cant do.

Meanwhile, your highlight real, which you put forth as if it meant something significant in your argument's favor, featured 3 plays. McClellin took himself out of position on the 3rd one, and got lucky with a lunge back. So, you essentially called a guy a good player because he did his job in 2 of 3 handpicked plays and didn't do his job on the third one but caught a huge break.

That wasnt a highlight real nor was it a fluff piece . There is more film out there that shows him doing more. You might want to check it out.

Sure, but snap the hell out of whatever funk you're in.

Your assessment of him is wrong.
 
Deus that guy is terrible. You can't be serious..

If we are going to use blogger/beat guy opinions then the guy from CSNChicago thinks McClellin was setup to fail from the get go

Mullin: McLellin was ‘set up to fail’ with Bears


But i'm sure Deus and the other contrarians and doom and gloomers will act like the guy that gave him an F is definitive proof and will ignore the CSNChicago beat guy saying he was setup to fail
 
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