Seattle to go to the SB IMO.They are a wagon right now.

Patsrock said:

I am impressed with what Seattle has done. But yesterday I thought they were very beatable and not a wagon.

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Agreed. I would love another shot at them.

I also am expecting them to lose before the Super Bowl, possibly even this weekend despite what the popular opinion is on them beating the Falcons.

Patradomous said:

Marshawn Lynch without question is the best running back in the game today.
Their D is dominant.
I think the only team that can beat them is the Pats and Brady with his A game.

For you bettors out there all the favorites won this weekend.Take all the underdogs next weekend there will be at least two upsets.

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Lynch is not the best RB in the NFL.. Not even close. AP out gained him by 600 yards. That is actually the silliest comment I've ever read in this forum.

Seattle wouldn't of even gotten by Washington yesterday if it wasn't for RGIII's injury. Calm down.

Now you're just backpeddling because you've been called out and know that you don't have much ground to stand on.

New England Seahawks said:

You went to the trouble of quoting me below, but not here. Gee, I wonder why. I also wonder why you're so adamant about forcing me to take a position that I never took just to fit your argument.

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I could quote you until the cows come home from pages two and three. You still won't be able to hide from the fact that you advanced the notion that the Seahawks adjustments had more to do with the win than Griffin's injury.

I based that statement on the game's results, and the fact that teams in the NFL are capable of making adjustments -- especially teams that are better than their opponent (like the Seahawks were), and got blitzkrieg'd to the tune of 14-0 right out of the gate.

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And yet you still can't name a single adjustment to back you two pages later.

Tell me, if the Patriots were playing vs an inferior team and went down 14-0 early, then came back and rattled off 24 straight points to win the game...are you going to tell me that game-time adjustments weren't at least partially responsible for that, regardless of whatever injuries were on the other side???

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It would depend on whether or not the other team's starting QB and the reason they were in that game in the first place sustained a season ending injury that he attempted to play through and took the opposition completely out of their game plan, I suppose.

It does to me, and anyone else who has a good grasp of the English langugage. Read it again carefully. Here, I'll help you. Everything before the word "someone" and after the word "point" is irrelevant to the context of what I said. So here's the statement. Ready?

"Someone else made a point... I don't know."

Not "I agree". Not "I concur". "I don't know". Again, I never agreed with said argument. I merely pointed it out as a possibility.

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Followed by admitting that it suddenly became a lot easier to contain Morris after RGIII was hobbled.

KontradictioN said:

Now you're just backpeddling because you've been called out and know that you don't have much ground to stand on.

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Nope. Only one backpedaling here is you. You're arguing against a point which you claim I made, and now you've been called out on it. So if I did, then quote me. Oh, that's right. You can't.

KontradictioN said:

I could quote you until the cows come home from pages two and three. You still won't be able to hide from the fact that you advanced the notion that the Seahawks adjustments had more to do with the win than Griffin's injury.

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And you quoted me only once, and it was an epic fail. LOL!

KontradictioN said:

And yet you still can't name a single adjustment to back you two pages later.

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And yet again you complete ignore what I'm saying. If you really want an answer, then I suggest you go grab a recording of the game and check it out yourself. Prove to me that they DIDN'T make any adjustments that were responsible for 24 straight points. Ball's in your court, bro.

KontradictioN said:

It would depend on whether or not the other team's starting QB and the reason they were in that game in the first place sustained a season ending injury that he attempted to play through and took the opposition completely out of their game plan, I suppose.

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I'll take that as a "maybe".

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Followed by admitting that it suddenly became a lot easier to contain Morris after RGIII was hobbled.

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Your words, not mine. Again, quote please?

For someone who supposedly doesn't have much of a "dog in this fight", you sure did spend quite a bit of time fighting.

New England Seahawks said:

Nope. Only one backpedaling here is you. You're arguing against a point which you claim I made, and now you've been called out on it. So if I did, then quote me. Oh, that's right. You can't.

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New England Seahawks said:

His leg wasn't healthy last week against the Cowboys either. No doubt he left plays on the field. But to say their offense became inept entirely because of RG3 is completely discrediting the Seahawks defense and the adjustments they made after being down 14-0.

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After that, and a few other quote worthy moments, you've spent literally the entire thread trying to make the case that the Seahawks adjustments had more to do with Washington's struggles than RGIII's injury right up to and including this very post. Again, you're backpedaling. You know it, I know. You should have bowed out of the thread after you admitted that you have no idea what adjustments they made to support your argument.

And you quoted me only once, and it was an epic fail. LOL!

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I could have quoted you more than once. I figured you could read.

And yet again you complete ignore what I'm saying. If you really want an answer, then I suggest you go grab a recording of the game and check it out yourself. Prove to me that they DIDN'T make any adjustments that were responsible for 24 straight points. Ball's in your court, bro.

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Thing is, I know what adjustments they made. I gave you a gift in one of my responses to you. My question was directed at you as a test of knowledge. You made the original claim and you couldn't back it up. Trying to put the ball in my court doesn't change that, nor is it relevant.

I'll take that as a "maybe".

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I've already told you that the Seahawks still had to execute to win. Not sure where you're trying to go with this one.

For someone who supposedly doesn't have much of a "dog in this fight", you sure did spend quite a bit of time fighting.

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The good news is that I only have 50 more minutes before I get off work. Then I'll be done on here for the night.

With that said, though, I'm done with you here. I'll let you have the last word as I've already thoroughly made my point here.

BoTown said:

I meant who from the NFC matches up favorably for the Patriots in a potential SB matchup (i.e. who would be most beneficial for the Pats to play as an opponent). Sorry for not being clear with my previous reply.

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I like the Pats' chances against all four NFC teams, if they make it to the Super Bowl. Packers probably scare me the most, since they can go touchdown for touchdown with the Pats' offense, and Rodgers doesn't turn the ball over, which our defense thrives on.

Seahawks would be a tough matchup for the Pats (they have the playmakers in the middle of the field to at least make life difficult for the Pats' tight ends, and I'm skeptical that Lloyd can handle whichever CB is tasked with stopping him). 49ers would be pretty tough for a lot of the same reasons.

The easiest matchup, IMO, is definitely the Falcons. Assuming that Talib and Dennard are healthy, they can play press coverage on Jones and White to disrupt the offense's timing. Atlanta's ground game doesn't scare anybody, and I don't see them having enough talent on D to handle any phase of the Patriots' attack. I doubt that that will be the SB matchup, since I'd be borderline shocked to see the Falcons make it there, but if they did I'd expect the Pats to win by more than a touchdown.

manxman2601 said:

You can't see the double standards in that post can you?

Whatever.

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I don't see one because there was none.

Well chris clemons is done for the year

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New England Seahawks said:

Nope. Only one backpedaling here is you. You're arguing against a point which you claim I made, and now you've been called out on it. So if I did, then quote me. Oh, that's right. You can't.



And you quoted me only once, and it was an epic fail. LOL!



And yet again you complete ignore what I'm saying. If you really want an answer, then I suggest you go grab a recording of the game and check it out yourself. Prove to me that they DIDN'T make any adjustments that were responsible for 24 straight points. Ball's in your court, bro.



I'll take that as a "maybe".



Your words, not mine. Again, quote please?

For someone who supposedly doesn't have much of a "dog in this fight", you sure did spend quite a bit of time fighting.

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This bandwagoner seagulls fan is still here?

Deus Irae said:

I don't see one because there was none.

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Yeah OK. Done with you.

I am so not on this bandwagon. I didn't like what I saw from them yesterday. RGIII was just a shell of himself, and they still hung right in that game, and the Redskins are not very good themselves.

As I stated in this thread earlier I have/had my doubts about Atlanta:

But when I cap the game based solely on home (Atlanta)/road (Seattle) stats for these two teams which spits out a drastically different score than when I cap it my "normal" way using the teams last four games played.

All home/road games including all 9 road games for Seattle (WC game included)

Sea: 20.5
Atl: 21.7

Just the 8 regular season home/road games:

Sea: 20.4
Atl: 22.3

Last four regular season road/home games per team:

Sea: 22.1
Atl: 25.7

Last four games road/home including the WC game for Seattle:

Sea: 22
Atl: 22.9

When the game is capped (using my method) solely on home road splits the Falcons win or its a virtual tie. Now what makes this impressive is if the numbers from the last four games are used (what my method is based on) the scores come out drastically different:

Seattle: 30.6
Atlanta: 20.9

Works out to about a 10 point swing, if that doesn't show how different the Seahawks are on the road then I don't know what does. Because of this I am leaning towards the Falcons actually getting their first playoff win with Smith/Ryan.

I simply found this interesting and thought I would share it.

Whorod said:

I am so not on this bandwagon. I didn't like what I saw from them yesterday. RGIII was just a shell of himself, and they still hung right in that game, and the Redskins are not very good themselves.

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I actually like the Seahawks. I think they will reach the NFC championship game against Niners.

KontradictioN said:

Bad pick. They don't match up favorably at all with Seattle.

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Any other time I'd probably agree with you but I can't shake the feeling that Atlanta is finally going to do something.

manxman2601 said:

Yup. It's like the replacement refs thing and GB. That conveniently ignores the fact that SEA kept GB close enough that one score made all the difference.

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I throw out all this ancient history. This is the second season and the teams and game plans will be different. Even the personal and matchups can change dramatically.

I think a lot of anxious fans rely on bolstering their confidence with the results of the regular season. It's false. It's cherry-picked ancient history.

Not digging the 49ers in this game, basically a rookie QB making his first playoff start with a defense that is suddenly struggling against good offenses and has allowed 25.5 PPG over its last 4 games; against a playoff tested team with a top 3 QB and the 5th highest scoring offense.

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Any other time I'd probably agree with you but I can't shake the feeling that Atlanta is finally going to do something.

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Doesn't Atlanta have trouble versus the run? If so they could be seeing more of Lynch's thighs than his wife.

manxman2601 said:

Yeah OK. Done with you.

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As I said, there was no double standard in play. "Trade Brady" is an allusion to a megathread from the past and was in response to someone who'd posted:

Dutchmaster617 said:

Let him win this Sb and then walk, focus on defense.

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which would be a monumentally silly approach, given that the focus on the offense would have been what got you the last Super Bowl win and the success from 2007 onwards. You being "done with" me isn't going to change that, and it's not going to make my post suddenly morph into any kind of double standard.

Redskins were winning in the 4th quarter until RG3 went gimpy. The Seahawks would have lost this game if it was a month ago. They just don't play as well on the road which they will have to do the next 2 games.

Whorod said:

I am so not on this bandwagon. I didn't like what I saw from them yesterday. RGIII was just a shell of himself, and they still hung right in that game, and the Redskins are not very good themselves.

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It's still a road playoff win against a division winner no matter how we slice it. The film should show that they adjusted and found some answers to RGIII, not just that the injury was the only factor. It's not like Petey is a dolt on x's and o's.

Not matter what, they dominated on defense once they adjusted and that included My Cousin Cousins, who not long ago was hailed as the best backup since My Cousin Vinny.