If you are missing Aaron Rodgers' season, you are missing history

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

After 10 years of putting up with Brady hating whiners, I can't believe Pats fans can't just acknowledge greatness when they see it.

For the record, I believe that Brady is probably the best of all-time, and a lot of that has to do with how he's handled the new wave of insane fame, media coverage, and everyone opponent's hate for so many years, and still come out with such remarkable consistent excellence.

But how can you not marvel when watching Rodgers play quarterback? This guy is just awesome...

Not sure where that dumb Brees comment came from. I never thought he was even close to the best QB of all-time, nor did I say that Rodgers was. I simply said he could end up as the best. With the talent he has, the sky is the limit. How can anyone disagree?

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he took over a team that was 13-3, divisional winners, and went to the NFCCG, he has yet to win a division, other than the great run last year in the playoffs, he really has note done much, well done "much" with a 13-3 team . . .

indeed his career is kind of like Eli Manning's, had a great 4 game stretch in the playoffs, with the help from his team, and won the SB, then the following year came out of the gate and won like 6 or 8 in a row, went 12-4 and proceeded to lose in the first round . . . not sure how many people today are saying Eli is the best in the league . . .

lets give it a few years and see him play many different schedules and against the rest of the leaque . . . if you want to crown him then crown his behind, but Rogers is who we thought he was . . .

LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady said:

NO!

The defense in GB sucks, it's obvious. The plan because the teams GB face lack defense... Outscore them in the shootout.

You really think they are asking themselves, "how do we to stop Aaron Rodgers?" It's obvious, pressure and good coverage. The defenses he's facing are not good enough to execute any plan they have. Coaches don't respect Aaron Rodgers like Brady, because he hasn't beaten anybody or showed this unbelievable skill he supposedly has against any good team. Last good D he faced... Chicago in the playoffs last year and he was less than average against them.

You've seen what happens when teams actually gameplan for a QB, take Drew Brees and his 20-something INTs last year. Look at Mike Vick now, he's nothing now compared to last year. Look at Brady in his last 3 games. Teams must make 'blueprints' for QBs of their talent. They don't need a blueprint or a special plan to stop Rodgers, they just need players on defense who can play well.

I'm LMAO about how stupid and blind you've become, if you were a Pats fan in the beginning. It's sickening how quick some jump off wagons around here and then expect a ride back on the wagon, soon as GB gets whooped by an actual GOOD team.

The comparisons between the 07 Pats and this GB garbage must stop. The Pats had a more competitive schedule and made top defenses(SD was #1 at the time, I think) look terrible. The Pats would've blown GB out fast and easily. GB are nowhere near the level the Pats of 07 were on.

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yea... i like how you conveniently left out what he did to the steelers in the SB last year...

Yehoodi said:

he took over a team that was 13-3, divisional winners, and went to the NFCCG, he has yet to win a division, other than the great run last year in the playoffs, he really has note done much, well done "much" with a 13-3 team . . .

indeed his career is kind of like Eli Manning's, had a great 4 game stretch in the playoffs, with the help from his team, and won the SB, then the following year came out of the gate and won like 6 or 8 in a row, went 12-4 and proceeded to lose in the first round . . . not sure how many people today are saying Eli is the best in the league . . .

lets give it a few years and see him play many different schedules and against the rest of the leaque . . . if you want to crown him then crown his behind, but Rogers is who we thought he was . . .

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yea but was eli manning displaying the dominance that rodgers currently is? Not even fking close..

The same could be said about steve young, no? He inherited a great team when montana was gone... no one disses on the great steve young.

millzy said:

aaron rodgers is clearly havin a good season but hes not better then brady. whoever thinks rodgers is the best qb in the league is actually stupid..brady has won 3 bowls and for the record, favre was better then rodgers simply because he developed that whole offense that they got going on right now. Greg Jennings was a bum before he met Favre and Donald driver was average. look what favre did in minnesota, that 1 year they could have won the superbowl if he wasnt so dumb and got intercepted. Rodgers is a top 5 quarterback

TOP 5 QBS PLAYING IN THE NFL

1. BRADY ( 3 BOWLS )
2. RODGERS
3. ROETHLISBERGER
4. BREES
5. ELI

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What does brady's 3 superbowls from ages ago have to do with best QB at the moment. Rodgers is the best qb in the league by far. He has a strong arm, has mobility and even throws well on the run. He has a ring, superbowl MVP and will win this season's MVP too. Sorry haters, but you watching greatness. Brady is not on rodgers level.

your acting like it was 20 years ago, yeah its been a few years but he dominated last year, year before, come back player, 50 tds year before, i mean, i respect and acknowledge rodgers talent. i'm not hating on him at all, i knew once favre went to the jets that rodgers was gonna be solid but i didn't expect him to be this good. still, i would take Brady over Rodgers any day of the week. Brady has leadership qualities and a clutch gene that rodgers doesn't have

Rodgers is a better quarterback in 2011 than Brady is right now

I don't know how you can say otherwise.....times are a changing and Brady gets challenged more and more to be the best year after year as he ages into his mid 30s

Next year another QB like perhaps Newton or Dalton will be added to a growing number of QBs for the next generation that will take over the Brady/Manning QB realm before you know it.

Yehoodi said:

he took over a team that was 13-3, divisional winners, and went to the NFCCG, he has yet to win a division, other than the great run last year in the playoffs, he really has note done much, well done "much" with a 13-3 team . . .

indeed his career is kind of like Eli Manning's, had a great 4 game stretch in the playoffs, with the help from his team, and won the SB, then the following year came out of the gate and won like 6 or 8 in a row, went 12-4 and proceeded to lose in the first round . . . not sure how many people today are saying Eli is the best in the league . . .

lets give it a few years and see him play many different schedules and against the rest of the leaque . . . if you want to crown him then crown his behind, but Rogers is who we thought he was . . .

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no offense, but to compare rodgers career to eli's is very very stupid

eli has been VERY inconsistant and a big part of his team's losses over the years

rodgers has never played bad in a season as the starter of the packers

that is a GD FACT, and i'm not even a fn packers fan, but i loathe seeing blind hatred such as that eli/rodgers comparison

look at his fn stats as a starter

Aaron Rodgers: Career Stats at NFL.com

tests said:

yea but was eli manning displaying the dominance that rodgers currently is? Not even fking close..

The same could be said about steve young, no? He inherited a great team when montana was gone... no one disses on the great steve young.

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no sane football fan would ever dare compare eli's career to rodgers

it's something any sports fan with a brain should bash


what a stupid comparison

in fact, rodgers might not have been that far from competing for his 3rd sb in a row had his defense shown up a bit better vs arizona


rodgers one playoff loss, his stats were =

28 for 42 for 423 yards, 4 tds, 1 int, and a qb rating of 121 (5 sacks due to his deplorable o-line)

comparing that kind of playoff loss to a typical eli playoff loss is downright ******ed!

this is a qb with 55 regular season starts in which he's had a qb rating above 100, on 33 of those starts!!!!

that includes 8 out of 8 starts with a 100 qb rating this year!

in the playoffs he's had 5 starts, and out of those 5 starts his qb rating was over 100 , 4 times


this is pretty much the king of qbs right now


debate = over

tests said:

yea but was eli manning displaying the dominance that rodgers currently is? Not even fking close..

The same could be said about steve young, no? He inherited a great team when montana was gone... no one disses on the great steve young.

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Steve young is a fair comparison, if one had to be made(given the circumstances). But Eli??? Um no.

Rodgers just won an SB and is continuing to play amazing, a lot of fans are just jealous me included.

jcdavey said:

this is a qb with 55 regular season starts in which he's had a qb rating above 100, on 33 of those starts!!!!

that includes 8 out of 8 starts with a 100 qb rating this year!

in the playoffs he's had 5 starts, and out of those 5 starts his qb rating was over 100 , 4 times


this is pretty much the king of qbs right now


debate = over

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That is insane... but isn't quarterback rating an overrated stat?

The thing about aaron rodgers that i found to be so crazy is how he had 30 tds and 7 ints with 50 ******* sacks in one year.

I think we might be seeing another steve young in the making (or better)

tests said:

That is insane... but isn't quarterback rating an overrated stat?

The thing about aaron rodgers that i found to be so crazy is how he had 30 tds and 7 ints with 50 ******* sacks in one year.

I think we might be seeing another steve young in the making (or better)

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i don't think qb rating is overrated, over 100 shows a qb did his job

i don't call rodgers the new steve young, i call him bom roethlisbrady

brady by the way, 12 outta 16 games over 100 qb rating in 2010

amazing

BradysBunch12 said:

Brady quietly as well as Brees are on pace to shatter Marino's yardage record.

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On pace to break Fouts' 320 yards per game in a season as well.

dsr said:

I think you're judging him a little harshly on the Minnesota game. 24-30 for 335 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, QBR 146.5? Maybe it wasn't his best game - but for an average, it's a pretty good performance.

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Maybe, but the game I watched Rogers got 90 of those yards from an uncovered finley. He could only complete 2 out of 8 3rd downs. His passing was really off target, so much so, I saw the GB offense stop throwing deep balls, and go to the short pass. this was a game where the GB WR's really showed how good they are, they were catching a lot of off target throws by rogers.
and the GB offense could not do much of anything in the in the 1st, 2nd or 4th quarter of that game, and thats with one of their best rushing games.
The 2 interceptions saved GB that day. Im pretty confident that any of the top #10 teams would have beaten GB that day. I think this is one those times you need to forget his stats and watch that game.
I agree, not bad for a bad game. But I credit GB WR/TE's and the 2 Ints vs a rookie Ponder for the win, not Rogers.

folamzz said:

What does brady's 3 superbowls from ages ago have to do with best QB at the moment. Rodgers is the best qb in the league by far. He has a strong arm, has mobility and even throws well on the run. He has a ring, superbowl MVP and will win this season's MVP too. Sorry haters, but you watching greatness. Brady is not on rodgers level.

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I just don't agree with this. You really need to look at who these 2 men have surrounding them.

I mean , its rogers, brees, and brady at the top of the QB rating.
2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

But these guys are only as good as the players around them. Brees has been surrounded by one of the best WR/TE/RB core and OL's in football for years.
I think you could plug Brady into Sean paytons offense, and he would have done better than Brees has. Brees is just as mobile as Rogers.

Brees could easily grasp the NE offense, but I don't think he would have 3 rings.


GB has one of, if not the best WR/TE core in the NFL. Im positive Brady would be doing just as well as Rogers if he was plugged into their offense.

I also don't think Rogers is as intelligent as either Brady or Brees. He's more of a natural talent. Brees has to spend hours of work to be good, and correct his natural deficients. Like his height and his vision problems he wears contacts lenses for.
I don't see Rogers grasping Sean paytons gynormus and complex play book, and doing well.
Same with NE, I don't see Rogers doing as well with the Patriots WR/TE core, and don't know if he has the work ethic or discipline to do well in the BB system.
In short, I see Rogers as not able to handle the Saints offense (its a very complicated race car, not a mustang, breaks down like foreign cars also,lol )
Not having the talent he was born with in GB, if he QB for the Patriots, he would not do as well as Brady. I see Brady as doing better than Brees on the Saints offense, and equal to Rogers at GB.

I might be wrong about Rogers intelligence and work ethic,, but I just haven't seen it yet, and Ive spent time trying to find out. I just can't find anything, so if you could supply that for me, Id be really grateful .

..and Im not sure why I keep posting in this thread,lol, Ive just been interested in GB sense we might have to play them later. don't care either way about Rogers, except that he watches pro wrestling kind of freaks me out.

pherein said:

I just don't agree with this. You really need to look at who these 2 men have surrounding them.

I mean , its rogers, brees, and brady at the top of the QB rating.
2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

But these guys are only as good as the players around them. Brees has been surrounded by one of the best WR/TE/RB core and OL's in football for years.
I think you could plug Brady into Sean paytons offense, and he would have done better than Brees has. Brees is just as mobile as Rogers.

Brees could easily grasp the NE offense, but I don't think he would have 3 rings.


GB has one of, if not the best WR/TE core in the NFL. Im positive Brady would be doing just as well as Rogers if he was plugged into their offense.

I also don't think Rogers is as intelligent as either Brady or Brees. He's more of a natural talent. Brees has to spend hours of work to be good, and correct his natural deficients. Like his height and his vision problems he wears contacts lenses for.
I don't see Rogers grasping Sean paytons gynormus and complex play book, and doing well.
Same with NE, I don't see Rogers doing as well with the Patriots WR/TE core, and don't know if he has the work ethic or discipline to do well in the BB system.
In short, I see Rogers as not able to handle the Saints offense (its a very complicated race car, not a mustang, breaks down like foreign cars also,lol )
Not having the talent he was born with in GB, if he QB for the Patriots, he would not do as well as Brady. I see Brady as doing better than Brees on the Saints offense, and equal to Rogers at GB.

I might be wrong about Rogers intelligence and work ethic,, but I just haven't seen it yet, and Ive spent time trying to find out. I just can't find anything, so if you could supply that for me, Id be really grateful .

..and Im not sure why I keep posting in this thread,lol, Ive just been interested in GB sense we might have to play them later. don't care either way about Rogers, except that he watches pro wrestling kind of freaks me out.

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As corny as it may sound.... doubters like is probably why aaron rodgers will continue to improve and get better.

once the weather gets cold, everything gets corrected

It's alright pherein, Brady and Brees are exceptional QB's but Rodgers has left them all for dead through 9 weeks of the season. He is simply that good in 2011.

The best part about Rodgers success is he's making Favre look every bit the douche we all know he is.