Chargers: #1 Total Offense & Defense + #1 Passing Offense & Defense in league

Pessimistic Pete said:

Offense
YPG: 432.7 (1st)
Passing: 316.2 (1st)

Defense
YPG: 255.2 (1st)
Passing: 163.7 (!st)

Pretty crazy for a 2-4 team, by the far the biggest underachievers in the NFL, even more so than the Cowboys.

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Total yardage numbers are junk.

Although, the biggest problem with the Chargers is they have the worst special teams in history.

If their head coach had a brain they would be serious superbowl contenders.

Floyd might be out as well for this one as well, hamstring injury and he couldn't return yesterday.

Simkin said:

I expect a full blowout, they are in desperation mode, in home, in the west... Its like the 56-0 we give to the Titans, that not means that the Titans or the Pats are bad teams, only circunstances

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Is this one of those reverse karma type posts?

Their Special Teams just aren't special. There is no reason why we shouldn't score on ST's this upcoming Sunday.

Also they are sloppy with the football, they are -3 in turnover ratio. People can blame it on Norv if they like - there is enough blame to go around - but when you fumble the football 9 times in six games and give up 4 TD's on ST's you end up being 2-4.

BlueThunder said:

Chargers on the WC is always a tough game...

Time for the Pass and run D to step up again....another game in the maturation process for the youngsters....


Let's hope they respond and don't try and sit back on their press clippings of the Ravens game.

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Its always tough for East coast teams going West and vice a versa.

SD can pass the ball even with out Gates and Arrington is so shaky.

MoLewisrocks said:

You should help Pete start a Pessimists forum. You could be the Admin. Stats are for losers. You are what your record says you are. And that's W-L and track record.

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Tell that to the 10-6 2007 Giants, or the 6th seed 11-5 Steelers in 2005.


Your record is irrelevant if you make the playoffs.

Simkin said:

I expect a full blowout, they are in desperation mode, in home, in the west... Its like the 56-0 we give to the Titans, that not means that the Titans or the Pats are bad teams, only circunstances

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Do you have anything to back this up? I'm guessing not. They might be first in total defense, but when the opposition scores 4 TD's on teams play and the offense turns the ball over 14 times in 6 games the defense doesn't exactly work with a long field very often.

Not to be a contrarian, but look at the teams San Diego's D has faced. KC, Jax, Ari, Oak, Sea, StL. Any of those teams have a really potent aerial offense? Sam Bradford was arguably the best QB they've faced this season.

The D's numbers are dubious at best.

very unpredictable team but very talented team
...last time we played them with cassel, they were in full desperation mode and we lost pretty handily. this is a very tough one to win...thats why the win yesterday was huge for us

mgcolby said:

Their Special Teams just aren't special. There is no reason why we shouldn't score on ST's this upcoming Sunday.

Also they are sloppy with the football, they are -3 in turnover ratio. People can blame it on Norv if they like - there is enough blame to go around - but when you fumble the football 9 times in six games and give up 4 TD's on ST's you end up being 2-4.

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well..they are different @home and play really well and have played what 4 road games already ? i expect them to come in full force at us..

TX_Patriot said:

Not to be a contrarian, but look at the teams San Diego's D has faced. KC, Jax, Ari, Oak, Sea, StL. Any of those teams have a really potent aerial offense? Sam Bradford was arguably the best QB they've faced this season.

The D's numbers are dubious at best.

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Any team in the top 10 would be 6-0 with that schedule.

You might be right, given that they loss to the rams and raiders.

SVN said:

well..they are different @home and play really well and have played what 4 road games already ? i expect them to come in full force at us..

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I agree that this will not be an easy game, I said as much in another thread. A desperate team coming home to lick its wounds is always dangerous especially when that team actually has talent. With that said, in their two home victories the defense forced 9 turnovers. I don't see the Pats turning the ball over multiple times. Also Jax and Arizona's ST's didn't do anything special against the weakest part of the Chargers team. On a positive note the only Arizona TD came by way of a fumble recovery returned for a TD.

Our ST's are going to have a big day against them on Sunday. I fully expect a 3rd TD return by Tate and a blocked punt would not a be a surprise.

Oh and Max Hall won't be making his first appearance in the NFL.

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TX_Patriot said:

Not to be a contrarian, but look at the teams San Diego's D has faced. KC, Jax, Ari, Oak, Sea, StL. Any of those teams have a really potent aerial offense? Sam Bradford was arguably the best QB they've faced this season.

The D's numbers are dubious at best.

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Offenses
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ARZ: Pass 153 (30th), Run 087 (29th), Total 240 (31st), Pts 18 (25th)
SEA: Pass 207 (21st), Run 086 (30th), Total 292 (27th), Pts 20 (20th)
JAX: Pass 165 (26th), Run 147 (3rd), Total 312 (22nd), Pts 21 (15th)
OAK: Pass 182 (23rd), Run 130 (10th), Total 313 (21st), Pts 20 (18th)
STL: Pass 211 (19th), Run 104 (17th), Total 315 (20th), Pts 17 (28th)
KC : Pass 164 (27th), Run 165 (1st), Total 329 (18th), Pts 22 (14th)
NE : Pass 231 (14th), Run 123 (12th), Total 354 (10th), Pts 30 (1st)

As for the pass defense, Carolina, Oakland and Buffalo are all top 10 pass defenses while the Pats, Steelers, Falcons and Titans are all in the bottom 10 (Jets are just outside at #22).

Here are the stats SD should be concerned about:

Off. 3rd Down Conv: SD 39% (17th), Pats 49% (3rd)
Penalties: SD 38 (19th), Pats 28 (T-9th)
Turnover Margin: SD -3 (26th), Pats +2 (9th)
Kickoff Avg Distance: SD 8 yd line (28th), Pats goal line (2nd)
Avg Punt Return: SD 24 yds, Pats 5 yds

And an interesting bonus stat for SD. Their punting net is only 26 yds while their average gain per play is 6.5...meaning they would only be risking on average less than 20 yards of field position by never punting.

Don't be fooled....we stink right now. I've never said that before on your forum, but we do. Our "homefield advantage" will likely be tempered, as the fanbase is growing tired of the nonsense. The #1 rankings for us are smoke and mirrors against largely crummy teams. I expect y'all to take it to us this Sunday.

Metaphors said:

Offenses
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ARZ: Pass 153 (30th), Run 087 (29th), Total 240 (31st), Pts 18 (25th)
SEA: Pass 207 (21st), Run 086 (30th), Total 292 (27th), Pts 20 (20th)
JAX: Pass 165 (26th), Run 147 (3rd), Total 312 (22nd), Pts 21 (15th)
OAK: Pass 182 (23rd), Run 130 (10th), Total 313 (21st), Pts 20 (18th)
STL: Pass 211 (19th), Run 104 (17th), Total 315 (20th), Pts 17 (28th)
KC : Pass 164 (27th), Run 165 (1st), Total 329 (18th), Pts 22 (14th)
NE : Pass 231 (14th), Run 123 (12th), Total 354 (10th), Pts 30 (1st)

As for the pass defense, Carolina, Oakland and Buffalo are all top 10 pass defenses while the Pats, Steelers, Falcons and Titans are all in the bottom 10 (Jets are just outside at #22).

Here are the stats SD should be concerned about:

Off. 3rd Down Conv: SD 39% (17th), Pats 49% (3rd)
Penalties: SD 38 (19th), Pats 28 (T-9th)
Turnover Margin: SD -3 (26th), Pats +2 (9th)
Kickoff Avg Distance: SD 8 yd line (28th), Pats goal line (2nd)
Avg Punt Return: SD 24 yds, Pats 5 yds

And an interesting bonus stat for SD. Their punting net is only 26 yds while their average gain per play is 6.5...meaning they would only be risking on average less than 20 yards of field position by never punting.

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Good data. I saw that third down conversion when I was looking them up earlier today. Not good for a team that is 1st in total yards.

I new their punt team was bad but...wow. But I remember when our punt stats were terrible. I love me some Zoltan, I am even willing to overlook his two shanks, chaulk them up to being a rookie. But we lose that game yesterday if Walters is punting from the 1.

PatsDeb said:

Is this one of those reverse karma type posts?

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No, it's one of those miserable troll posts.

This is gonna be a tough game even if they dont play with antonio gates.Its a road game and chargers will be hungry for a win.The offense will need to be more consistent on drives.I thought the game in miami was very deceiving.The offense didnt exactly played that great.It was about special teams.

MiChargers said:

Don't be fooled....we stink right now. I've never said that before on your forum, but we do. Our "homefield advantage" will likely be tempered, as the fanbase is growing tired of the nonsense. The #1 rankings for us are smoke and mirrors against largely crummy teams. I expect y'all to take it to us this Sunday.

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Gates' injury could be a big factor...