Tabloid news on BB

Chevagus · Jul 21, 2006

spacecrime said:
reqad again:

End run blocks juicy tidbits in Belichick-linked divorce case
By Gayle Fee and Laura Raposa
Friday, July 21, 2006 - Updated: 02:01 AM EST

A high-priced attorney in a scandalous New Jersey divorce case yesterday moved to seal explosive court records that implicate New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick as the Other Man in the marital bust-up.

Court officials in Morristown, N.J., refused to grant access to records involving the dissolution of the 10-year marriage of Vincent and Sharon Shenocca of Covent Station, N.J.

The speculation is that the judge sealed the records - which were reviewed by the Track - because they contain details about the couple’s sex life, including the wife’s fantasies about girl-on-girl action, her proclivity for porn and the husband’s desire for them to take part in a “threesome.”

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You forgot to highlight this part. If the docs were sealed right off the bat then you have a point. However, Wednesday the husband's attorney moved to interview BB so the docs were filed before then. Nothing says they were filed under seal.

checkedout · Jul 21, 2006

Nobody seams to be mentioning these parts of the story:

Sharon, 41, who told the court she "would not engage in this perversion," said there "was no room in the marital relationship for a third person."
Sharon said in the divorce filing that her relationship with Belichick was "plutonic and never hidden from (her husband)."
"Sharon saw everybody who walked through the doors at Giants Stadium and that's how they built their friendship," one of her lifelong friends told the Track yesterday. "She's a great gal with a great personality. But from Day One, it was always friendship. He's strictly a good friend and nothing more."
"What is wrong with a friend helping a friend in need," asked Shenocca's childhood pal who grew up with her on Long Island. "There is nothing going on with those two. Bill is a total gentleman. And she's been totally, totally loyal to her husband."
Shenocca's friends said that the church-going, stay-at-home mom, not her husband, "is the victim here."

Not so, said a friend of Vincent's who told us his buddy is "getting screwed big time."

"Here's a guy who makes $75,000 a year," said the friend. "And she's backed by Belichick. How can he compete with that?"

Could it be that he IS just a friend? Could it be that the husband is just trying to come out on top of a divorce settlement?

MoLewisrocks · Jul 21, 2006

checkedout said:
Nobody seams to be mentioning these parts of the story:

Sharon, 41, who told the court she "would not engage in this perversion," said there "was no room in the marital relationship for a third person."
Sharon said in the divorce filing that her relationship with Belichick was "plutonic and never hidden from (her husband)."
"Sharon saw everybody who walked through the doors at Giants Stadium and that's how they built their friendship," one of her lifelong friends told the Track yesterday. "She's a great gal with a great personality. But from Day One, it was always friendship. He's strictly a good friend and nothing more."
"What is wrong with a friend helping a friend in need," asked Shenocca's childhood pal who grew up with her on Long Island. "There is nothing going on with those two. Bill is a total gentleman. And she's been totally, totally loyal to her husband."
Shenocca's friends said that the church-going, stay-at-home mom, not her husband, "is the victim here."

Not so, said a friend of Vincent's who told us his buddy is "getting screwed big time."

"Here's a guy who makes $75,000 a year," said the friend. "And she's backed by Belichick. How can he compete with that?"

Could it be that he IS just a friend? Could it be that the husband is just trying to come out on top of a divorce settlement?

Stay at home mom's are at a distinct financial disadvantage in divorce proceedings because the husband controls the finances. Perhaps because they have been friends for years BB offered to help with her legal expenses to insure this clown doesn't prevail, and his retort was to attempt to drag BB into the proceedings as a means to disuade him from offering her any kind of financial or emotional support. He may be less concerned with competing with BB for her affection that with competing with BB's financial assistance in their impending divorce, custody and alimony battle.

checkedout · Jul 21, 2006

MoLewisrocks said:
Stay at home mom's are at a distinct financial disadvantage in divorce proceedings because the husband controls the finances. Perhaps because they have been friends for years BB offered to help with her legal expenses to insure this clown doesn't prevail, and his retort was to attempt to drag BB into the proceedings as a means to disuade him from offering her any kind of financial or emotional support. He may be less concerned with competing with BB for her affection that with competing with BB's financial assistance in their impending divorce, custody and alimony battle.

Agreed, which is why the husband usually ends up paying thru the nose, unless there is an affair, and since this friendship has been ongoing since 1988, and he has known about it the entire time..................

mikey · Jul 21, 2006

From NYPOST

http://www.nypost.com/news/regional...ionalnews_todd_venezia_and_leonard_greene.htm

BELI-CHICK'S PAY DIRT
GAVE MARRIED GAL PAL $$

There is a picture of Sharon Shenocca on the print version of the NY Post page 11.

Unfortunately, I could not a web picture of Ms. Shenocca.

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PATSNUTme · Jul 21, 2006

checkedout said:
Nobody seams to be mentioning these parts of the story:

Sharon, 41, who told the court she "would not engage in this perversion," said there "was no room in the marital relationship for a third person."
Sharon said in the divorce filing that her relationship with Belichick was "plutonic and never hidden from (her husband)."
"Sharon saw everybody who walked through the doors at Giants Stadium and that's how they built their friendship," one of her lifelong friends told the Track yesterday. "She's a great gal with a great personality. But from Day One, it was always friendship. He's strictly a good friend and nothing more."
"What is wrong with a friend helping a friend in need," asked Shenocca's childhood pal who grew up with her on Long Island. "There is nothing going on with those two. Bill is a total gentleman. And she's been totally, totally loyal to her husband."
Shenocca's friends said that the church-going, stay-at-home mom, not her husband, "is the victim here."

Not so, said a friend of Vincent's who told us his buddy is "getting screwed big time."

"Here's a guy who makes $75,000 a year," said the friend. "And she's backed by Belichick. How can he compete with that?"

Could it be that he IS just a friend? Could it be that the husband is just trying to come out on top of a divorce settlement?

That means no girl on girl stuff going on?

patsacolachick · Jul 21, 2006

Re: From NYPOST

mikey said:
http://www.nypost.com/news/regional...ionalnews_todd_venezia_and_leonard_greene.htm

There is a picture of Sharon Shenocca on the print version of the NY Post page 11.

Unfortunately, I could not a web picture of Ms. Shenocca.

.

It isn't too good, but here it is http://www.patriotsplanet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67

mikey · Jul 21, 2006

Re: From NYPOST

patsacolachick said:
It isn't too good, but here it is http://www.patriotsplanet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67

Thanks.

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mikey · Jul 21, 2006

From http://www.patriotsplanet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67
KenJr30 is a GOD!

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Tunescribe · Jul 21, 2006

MoLewisrocks said:
Wasn't this the same rationale you employed when you felt compelled to publicly announce his seperation from Debbie on Patsfans just over a year ago so we could assess it's potential impact on a football season? Turned out what we should have been concerned about was the continued physical health of half a dozen starters and not the emotional health of the HC. Even saddled with a team badly wounded physically and after burying his beloved dad, he managed to position them for a run at #4. And in the end it wasn't his coaching performance that fumbled and stumbled and threw it away...

Like most highly successful businessmen who also happen to have personal lives that sometimes become complicated, Bill will compartmentalize this and handle it accordingly. If we have learned nothing else about him over the last 6 years, we should know by now he is a master minimalizing if not eliminating distraction. So attempting to point to the distraction factor as a valid rationale for even continuing this discussion is patently BS.

You, of course, are entitled to your opinion and naturally we all hope (as I originally stated) that this dries up and blows away in a hurry. But your assessment of BB's ability as a master of minimizing distraction is conjecture based on observations from afar. The POTENTIAL for distraction through an event like this is real and undeniable. Let's hope that potential is not realized.

MoLewisrocks · Jul 21, 2006

Tunescribe said:
You, of course, are entitled to your opinion and naturally we all hope (as I originally stated) that this dries up and blows away in a hurry. But your assessment of BB's ability as a master of minimizing distraction is conjecture based on observations from afar. The POTENTIAL for distraction through an event like this is real and undeniable. Let's hope that potential is not realized.

Just like yours is conjecture based on observations of mere mortals in general. His track record is of being someone who handles the bumps in the road without allowing them to impact his continued success at navigating it.

Tunescribe · Jul 21, 2006

MoLewisrocks said:
Just like yours is conjecture based on observations of mere mortals in general. His track record is of being someone who handles the bumps in the road without allowing them to impact his continued success at navigating it.

Oh, right, BB is not made of flesh and blood like the rest of us. Forgot all about that. Let's hope your second sentence portends the outcome of this little fiasco.

Pats67 · Jul 21, 2006

I guess what I don't understand, Tune, is that I believe it was you that coined the term 'Desperate Housewives' (to my applause) to illustrate the endless ancillary drama that seems to be so entertaining to a certain segment of local baseball fans, so much so that the game itself becomes secondary to them.

Yet at the same time, you seem to respond frequently to this sort of story/rumor involving, at the very least, the personal life of the head coach, and you devote at least some effort to convincing others here of the import/impact of said story/rumor. I say this respectfully - can you help me to understand the difference between the two situations?

arrellbee · Jul 21, 2006

Bill's Girl said:
I am NOT bailing on Bill.....

I have a degree in paralegal studies and I can tell you that being deposed is a serious matter. The reason this story "broke" is because there is a hearing scheduled in a few weeks to determine if BB can be deposed in this divorce case. The husband wants custody of his kids and does not want to pay alimony. If he can prove his wife had an extra marital affair, then he strengthens his case. And yes, I am aware that everything alleged in a divorce case is not gospel. This however is fairly easy to prove....phone records......bank transactions....limo payments....hotel payments. The paper trail over 10+ years would be huge! You can believe what these girls are saying in this case because their info is coming from court papers, not idle gossip!

What I find IRONIC is what I said originally.....he preaches to his players to stay out of trouble and not embarrass the franchise. If this is true or if this is false, it is still embarrassing.

Do I love and respect him as a coach? YES! Do I agree with alleged inpropriety in his personal life? NO!

No offense everyone, but I have the right to feel dissapointed in my "hero."

And by the way Pats67 I HAVE met BB.....HugeCrush and I took a half a day out of work, drove 8 hours round trip to meet our "hero" and hear him give a speech about how the only thing of real value we have is our REPUTATION!

I seriously apologize for speaking for everyone in my first post, please forgive this mistake.

Before I get seriously upset, let me make sure I am correctly interpreting what you are saying.

You can't be serious that you think that allegations made by a party in a court suit can be believed just because they are in the court papers ?? !! ??

If you have paralegal background, you do know that for a filed suit they don't have to get a 'judge's approval' to issue subpoenas ?? It would only come before a judge if the plaintiff refused to comply with a subpoena and they made a motion to compel ?? ?? ??

You are not seriously assuming that Belichick committed any of these alleged acts are you ?? Or do you have something else to go on besides the Herald column ??

I'll refrain from further comment until I can figure out what you are really saying.

Tunescribe · Jul 21, 2006

Pats67 said:
I guess what I don't understand, Tune, is that I believe it was you that coined the term 'Desperate Housewives' (to my applause) to illustrate the endless ancillary drama that seems to be so entertaining to a certain segment of local baseball fans, so much so that the game itself becomes secondary to them.

Yet at the same time, you seem to respond frequently to this sort of story/rumor involving, at the very least, the personal life of the head coach, and you devote at least some effort to convincing others here of the import/impact of said story/rumor. I say this respectfully - can you help me to understand the difference between the two situations?

They're apples and oranges, in my estimation. The Desperate Housewives of the last few years (not so much this year) were players run amok -- jogging to first base on infield grounders, drinking whiskey in the clubhouse before playoff games, taking days off when they were supposed to be playing, etc., etc. The biggest difference is I really don't "care" about the baseball team and all its shennanigans, as much as I have loathed its unprofessional conduct. But I DO care about the Patriots and whatever might affect their fortunes, whether it happens on the field or off. I'm really not here to convince anyone of anything. The potential relevance (and I emphasize "potential") of this latest bit of nasty news is self-evident. I sincerely hope it amounts to nothing and goes away soon, forever.

flutie2phelan · Jul 21, 2006

checkedout said:
Nobody seams to be mentioning these parts of the story:

Sharon, 41, who told the court she "would not engage in this perversion," said there "was no room in the marital relationship for a third person."
Sharon said in the divorce filing that her relationship with Belichick was "plutonic and never hidden from (her husband)."
"Sharon saw everybody who walked through the doors at Giants Stadium and that's how they built their friendship," one of her lifelong friends told the Track yesterday. "She's a great gal with a great personality. But from Day One, it was always friendship. He's strictly a good friend and nothing more."
"What is wrong with a friend helping a friend in need," asked Shenocca's childhood pal who grew up with her on Long Island. "There is nothing going on with those two. Bill is a total gentleman. And she's been totally, totally loyal to her husband."
Shenocca's friends said that the church-going, stay-at-home mom, not her husband, "is the victim here."

This should be the end of the entire tawdry matter.
A failed husband and his sleazy lawyer are trying to drag a good man's reputation through their mud.
I wish BB would counter-sue them for libel.

fgssand · Jul 21, 2006

flutie2phelan said:
This should be the end of the entire tawdry matter.
A failed husband and his sleazy lawyer are trying to drag a good man's reputation through their mud.
I wish BB would counter-sue them for libel.

I agree with you - it would really help those that feel BB is being victimized here were he to sue this dolt for libel.

I really hope this does not mushroom and become a distraction in the locker room.

Does BB address the media over this?
Does he address the team?
Does he say nothing?

Will this lead him to retire?

Damn - this sucks.

Pats67 · Jul 21, 2006

Tunescribe said:
The potential relevance (and I emphasize "potential") of this latest bit of nasty news is self-evident. I sincerely hope it amounts to nothing and goes away soon, forever.

We share that sentiment to be sure.

On the second point, I guess I would disagree that the relevance is self-evident. I agree with what MLR said earlier -- I'm really not concerned in the least that this will become any kind of on-field distraction that has anything to do with where the team finishes, etc. The man is not my hero, as I no longer asd an adult have them, but he has my everlasting respect and confidence as someone who produces professionally under any circumstance.

My concern was with what I perceived to be some muckraking on the part of some disgusting pigs - who basically trash anyone who dares to be uncooperative with them, as the Boston Mag story indicated - and irresponsibility on the part of those decisionmakers that 'craft' the front page of the Herald. And of course those who claim that the coach is their 'hero' yet are the first to believe the worst about him.

Pats67 · Jul 21, 2006

fgssand said:
I agree with you - it would really help those that feel BB is being victimized here were he to sue this dolt for libel.

I really hope this does not mushroom and become a distraction in the locker room.

Does BB address the media over this?
Does he address the team?
Does he say nothing?

Will this lead him to retire?

Damn - this sucks.

There is no way he will address the media about this. In a hundred years.

What happens between the team and the coach we will never know. My guess is that he will address the team about football, and the Buffalo Bills, etc. I feel pretty confident in that guess.

Yes, he will say nothing.

Did he retire when it was 'reported' that he was about to be wed to Bonnie Bernstein?

Oh, come on, man.

Lastly, 'it will really hope those that feel BB is being victimized by this'? You CANNOT be serious. He should sue to make YOU feel better? For crying out loud.

horryfor3 · Jul 21, 2006

Why dont you guys like BB?

Stupid Question, I know... Its all a learning process, I guess.

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