I'm Hungry, Mr. Macaroney!

[DaBruinz]

What's it got to do with hate? He's frustrated. He senses, and rightfully so, whether it's correct or not, that Laurence is not taking the coaching. He's not running where the play is designed to go. That doesn't frustrate you? Nobody hates Laurence. It's OK to express frustration with him without getting into this "hate" thing. Go pass a hate bill in congress.

How do you know that Maroney isn't taking the coaching. Because you chose to make that assumption?

Is Maroney allowed to be frustrated with fans and the media who attempt to look at things in a vacuum?

OH, NSA, Danny88 and others DO hate Maroney.

I think it was the Buffalo game: Laurence gets the ball, does not hit the area designed for the play, goes left, gets buried by four Bills, and our *entire* OL is standing around looking at each other (did you ever see the OL all standing straight up looking at each other on a running play?) and looking around for Laurence. They clearly did not know where he went. They clearly were blocking in one area while he chose to go to another and get buried.

This kid is 22. So he's YOUNG. He's got 2 years less experience than someone like Addai. Could he have run the wrong play? Sure. I've seen Randy Moss, a 8+ year vet run the wrong play. I've seen other players do that. So, because Maroney runs a wrong play, its total damnation on him?

One of the things with ZONE Blocking is that there is no ONE hole for him to go through. There are several for him to pick from. One of the BIGGEST things that Maroney has to learn is Patience. Meanning, he can't be trying to run THROUGH his O-linemen. That's been my only qualm with Maroney.

Also, lets not forget that the O-line has been running this particular style of run blocking for about 18 months. They certainly aren't polished in the way that the Colts O-line is. They are getting there. And as they do, and as Maroney gains experience, they should click and we should see big things.

If 4.3 ypc is all you want to see, then that's what you'll see. It's pretty obvious that Sammy Morris stole the job from him though. Laurence is a backup RB who inherited the starter position due to injury.

This is utter BS. Maroney was the STARTING RB and lost the position due to injury. Maroney was running better than Morris in the 3 games they both played in. Also, Maroney had more carries (54 to 33) than Morris in those games. And Morris was getting many carries later in the game.

 

[DaBruinz]

Let's face it: Before the injury, Sammy Morris was the feature back and Laurence was the backup. That is reality.

REALLY? Sorry to burst your bubble, but Maroney had 54 carries to Morris' 33. Since when does a team give their BACK-UP more carries than their feature back?

Let's face it again: Out the group of Marshawn Lynch, Thomas Jones and Ronnie Brown, and Laurence, I don't know anybody that would put Laurence ahead of any of them. Each one of those guys runs hard and punishes tacklers. Laurence does not punish anybody. Laurence gets punished. Sammy belonged in that group of punishing backs.

You clearly have not watched Thomas Jones run. Ronnie Brown is a punishing POWER BACK. Lynch is the only fair comparison, but even he dances around at times.

Let's face this too: He's very good in the open field. Perhaps they will just throw him the ball more often now and get some production out of him. He seems to love space, and he knows how to deal with it, and has special skills there. Maybe he should be a third down back.

Maybe he fancies himself as a cutback runner but I don't see such lanes opening up on any regular basis. Doesn't this tell us that the blocking schemes are not designed to open such lanes?

No, actually, it tells me two things. The first is that you don't understand the Zone Blocking scheme. Second, it tells me that because you don't understand, that you're assumptions are flawed.

The SCHEME is specifically designed to open up cut-back lanes. If they aren't opening, its the O-lines fault. NOT Maroney's.

NOW, should Maroney be hitting the holes that are there? YES. He shouldn't ALWAYS be looking for the cut-back. But that is something he should learn over time. He's 22 and has 21 less years experience running in college ball than Addai.

Who scored the TD the other night? Heath Evans. Why? Probably because they wanted to make sure the RB would follow the blocks and run hard and maybe use his power to get into the end zone? I'm all for it. Give the ball to Heath and Kyle and punish some tacklers, and use Laurence out of the backfield in space on passing downs.

So the Pats used Heath Evans in a short yardage situation. You seem to forget that the Pats like to get EVERYONE involved. Its why they've got 20 different players who have scored TDs this year.

Are you saying that because Brady has scored 2 rushing TDs that the Pats don't trust their RBs in general?

 

[danny88]

Oh ooooooo. J man is this Reiss article gospel? I predict dabruinz comes into this thread in a rage in three two one .........

 

[DaBruinz]

First of all he's not a bad player and nobody has said that. We're saying, I think, that he can be better - much better.

How can you ask a question about the Ravens without considering that they might have been in a nickel or dime coverage half the night? If you can't run against a dime configuration then that's pretty lame. They gave up the run to stop the pass - it's not rocket science.

Just ask yourself who you'd pick in a draft that offered you four choices: Laurence, Ronnie Brown, Marshawn Lynch, and Thomas Jones. If we clearly have the inferior back of that group, doesn't that tell you something?

Front Seven -
You clearly didn't watch the game. The Ravens weren't in a nickel or Dime package all night. And neither were the Eagles.

Considering how many of your assumptions are flawed, how can you say we have the inferior back of that group?

 

[DaBruinz]

Oh ooooooo. J man is this Reiss article gospel? I predict dabruinz comes into this thread in a rage in three two one .........

As per usual, Danny88 brings nothing to the thread. Of course, I find it also funny that Patsfangr disappears and Danny88 shows up...

 

[Buchanty]

This is what I hate. Some bozo posts a Maroney disaster thread, and now there are posts 'defending the disater'.
THERE IS NO DISASTER.

Just a quick note to say that I am not defending the disaster. Rather I am carefully choosing my words to support Maroney, which is what you are doing as well. I am counseled by both optimistic and pessimistic thoughts but allow the objectivity of results to lead my to my opinion. I have also tried to see through the eyes of the critics and determine why they might be seeing what they do. But in all I stand by BB's praise for his running back, his more than reasonable stats/achievements and ask for the season to run its course before rash decisions are made about Maroney. I am more than happy that he is on the team.

I dont think there is any harm in wishing for certain plays/opportunities which in turn leads me to believe that BB is leaving something in the tank.

Apologies if this sounds too defensive, but I feel that you have misread my attempts at support, patience and objectivity as attempts to defend the disaster. As I said in my first post on this thread, the disaster is a myth.

 

[DaBruinz]

Come on, you know I mean Thomas Jones. And you know the point about that.

What you MEANT and what you SAID are two different things. No one knew what you were thinking. Though I question whether or not you truly were.

Well so what if the Ravens were in a nickel or dime all night? They clearly were giving the run weren't they?

Actually, I regularly counted 4 Dline and 3 LBs on the field for the Ravens. Not sure where you got that they were in Nickel and Dime. OH, and nothing like giving credit to the BEST run defense in the league.

Look, you saying that Laurence is a "space killer" and not a power back is exactly what I've been saying. Here is where we differ: I don't think the team expected that. And I don't think it's the coaches' job to redesign an offense based upon the whims of rookie or second year backs. It's the other way around.

WOW. So you think that Belichick and Pioli didn't know that Maroney ran with power, but wasn't a powerback? Maroney was NEVER a power back in college. NEVER. That was Marion Barber and Gary Russell. They were the short-yardage backs when Maroney was there. But Maroney still had double digit TDs while there.

And, if you think its not the coach's responsibility to figure out a way to best utilize the strengths of his players (read change his offense) then you clearly don't know a damn thing about football. Were you that stupid kid who was always trying to force the square peg into the round hole?

Yes, I agree that McDaniels can now begin to design more plays for him out in space, but that doesn't solve the problem of who pounds the ball to keep the defense honest. I mean we just don't have anybody at a high level if he doesn't do it. And he won't. Or he can't. Whatever.

POUNDING the ball isn't what keeps the defense honest. RUNNING the ball effectively is. And if the Pats game plan doesn't call for "keeping the defense honest," how is that Maroney's fault. Its the fault of Brady, Belichick, McDaniels and the rest of the offensive coaching staff.

 

[PonyExpress]

Let's face it: Before the injury, Sammy Morris was the feature back and Laurence was the backup. That is reality.

Let's face it again: Out the group of Marshawn Lynch, Thomas Jones and Ronnie Brown, and Laurence, I don't know anybody that would put Laurence ahead of any of them. Each one of those guys runs hard and punishes tacklers. Laurence does not punish anybody. Laurence gets punished. Sammy belonged in that group of punishing backs.

Let's face this too: He's very good in the open field. Perhaps they will just throw him the ball more often now and get some production out of him. He seems to love space, and he knows how to deal with it, and has special skills there. Maybe he should be a third down back.

Maybe he fancies himself as a cutback runner but I don't see such lanes opening up on any regular basis. Doesn't this tell us that the blocking schemes are not designed to open such lanes?

Who scored the TD the other night? Heath Evans. Why? Probably because they wanted to make sure the RB would follow the blocks and run hard and maybe use his power to get into the end zone? I'm all for it. Give the ball to Heath and Kyle and punish some tacklers, and use Laurence out of the backfield in space on passing downs.

That "reality" is in your mind. Maroney started every game he was healthy, and carried the ball more often. Morris got more reps while Maroney was out with a groin pull. Furthermore, Morris is made of "glass". He carried the load for 3 games with his "bonecrushing" style which so many fans pine for, and is now out for the year unable to help the team. The first game he playd vs. a decent defensive front, Dallas (which doesn't compare with Baltimore's) he ran for 14 yards on 10 carries. Maroney is playing, never fumbles, is making big plays in the passing game, improving as a blocker and running the ball competitively. I guess you expected Walter Payton at #21. Go check out Joseph Addai's performance lately. And Reggie Bush. Maroney's 36 and 43 yard catches vs. Baltimore, his 2nd and 3rd catches of the season, were both longer than any catch by Reggie Bush all year. Thomas Jones is 30 and averaging 3.6 yards per attempt. Ronnie Brown is out with a torn ACL. Marshawn Lynch is out with an ankle problem and averages 3.8 YPA. I'll take Maroney over those backs right now. And by next season, when he is fully integrated into the passing game, he will be the back so many of his critics beg for. If you followed the '06 draft carefully, you would know that scouts felt Maroney should be brought along slowly to maximize his value. The reasons for this were 1) He played in college at 205-210, and was projected to play in the NFL at 225. He would have to put on that weight and adjust to it 2) His college system had no passing game, so he would have to learn blocking and route running 3) he was coming out as a junior at age 21, so he would have to mature mentally and physically. BB has followed this guideline carefully. But bandwagon fans lack the patience to see it through. Maroney has to learn how to say healthy, and he is doing so. Durability is among the most important talents a RB can have. We are seeing that with Reggie Bush. Addai is banged up. Peterson already tore a knee ligament. The longer Maroney stays on the field healthy the better he'll be. I think some fans just don't understand how players are developed and matured. They are being completely unfair with Maroney. It reflects badly on the fan base and it is damaging to the psyche of young players when their own fans unjustly turn on them.

 

[DaBruinz]

It's not the coaches' job to reinvent the offense; it's the kid's job to do what he's asked to do.

WRONG. Its the coaches job to implement plays that play to his players strengths. Otherwise, the Pats wouldn't have switched to a ZONE BLOCKING system.

Maybe you should stop and think about what you are saying and what is reality because you clearly haven't done that.

All those plays are already in the play book for Kevin. We don't need another third down specialist. If we drafted him in the first round to be a third down speecialst to take over for a guy that is better than him, then somebody is whacked.

No they weren't. The Zone Blocking scheme was added last year. A whole new set of plays and blocking.

You clearly don't understand the game half as well as you have yourself believing you do.

 

[Ring 6]

Just a quick note to say that I am not defending the disaster. Rather I am carefully choosing my words to support Maroney, which is what you are doing as well. I am counseled by both optimistic and pessimistic thoughts but allow the objectivity of results to lead my to my opinion. I have also tried to see through the eyes of the critics and determine why they might be seeing what they do. But in all I stand by BB's praise for his running back, his more than reasonable stats/achievements and ask for the season to run its course before rash decisions are made about Maroney. I am more than happy that he is on the team.

I dont think there is any harm in wishing for certain plays/opportunities which in turn leads me to believe that BB is leaving something in the tank.

Apologies if this sounds too defensive, but I feel that you have misread my attempts at support, patience and objectivity as attempts to defend the disaster. As I said in my first post on this thread, the disaster is a myth.

I should have said you were put in a position to have to defend the disaster.
Manufacturer facts are posted, so those responding are in a position of 'defending' something that isn't even accurate.

 

[danny88]

As per usual, Danny88 brings nothing to the thread. Of course, I find it also funny that Patsfangr disappears and Danny88 shows up...

This coming from the guy who derails threads with all his anger filled posts.


Dabruinz would you like to make a bet? If I have any screen names others then Danny88 on this site I will delete my account and never post here again.

If I do not you do the same?


Deal?

 

[danny88]

***** The meal I would enjoy most can only be provided by the Patriots "feature RB". I desperately want him to make me eat the words I'm about to write!

***** Here's a note from Reiss' Blog, with an "open letter" from me to Mr. "Macaroney" to follow:

Maroney on running style
FOXBOROUGH -- Patriots running back Laurence Maroney drew a crowd in the locker room today at Gillette Stadium. Once again, his running style was a topic of conversation.
The question of whether Maroney dances too much behind the line of scrimmage – and doesn’t enter the hole with authority – seems to have struck a nerve with him. When told that some critics believe Maroney hesitates too much, he asked: “How many of those people have actually played running back?”
“It’s like me trying to critique you all about how to ask questions or how to do an interview,” Maroney continued. “You aren’t really going to listen to it, because I’ve never did it before. Just like I’m not really going to pay attention to what someone says about running north-south because you never know what I see out there or what is happening – like if a guy is coming free in the hole, what do you want me to do? I’m trying to make plays, trying to make it happen, so it might look like I’m dancing, but I’m really trying to make something happen.
“So I’m not going to get into that, go back and forth, that I’m running north-south, that I’m running laterally. I’m just out there to make plays and that’s what I try to do.”

***** Well, I'll tell ya what, Mr. Macaroney, MAKE A FEW PLAYS running the ball from behind the LOS, and maybe you won't have to "get into that"!

***** Let's review, shall we? You have carried the ball 118 times for 511 yards (4.3 YPC). Your LONGEST run in those 118 carries was for 19 yards! You have scored a total of 2 TDs in those 118 carries! Just how many of those carries would you classify as "making a play"?!

***** Just how would you define those 118 carries in comparison to the performances of "journeyman backup", Sammy Morris; who, before his injury, had 85 carries for 354 yards (4.5 YPC), with a long of 49 yards, and 3 TDs?! He actually HAS played running back! His "style" is go where the play is designed to go, and, if there's no hole immediately apparent, to MAKE ONE, by putting his shoulder down, driving forward with his legs, and HITTING SOMEBODY!

***** Hell, Kevin Faulk has a better YPC (4.4) than you do. He's 9 years older, 3" shorter, and 18 pounds lighter than you, Mr. Macaroney; and who do the Patriots turn to for a critical 3rd down run, as they did in last week's game against the Ravens? It's Kevin Faulk. And how does he run that play? He makes one quick cut, drops his shoulder, and drives straight ahead for, guess what, a FIRST DOWN!

***** That, Mr. Macaroney, is how to play RB in the NFL, particularly on this team. Oh, do you wonder about that name I've chosen for you? Well, I consider it a name which accurately describes YOUR running style - that of a wet noodle! I, for one, am tired of it. And I'm tired of you stubbornly, and ignorantly, refusing to accept the coaching, yes, and even the external criticism, that has repeatedly pointed out to you that "what you see out there" isn't what should determine your next move. The design of the play is what should determine that next move.

***** I've never played RB, Mr. Macaroney. But I've been watching people play it in the NFL for over 50 years. In all that time, in all those hundreds, perhaps even thousands of games, I've seen only ONE successful RB who consistently ran with "dancing" and "lateral movement", rarely going "north-south" from behind the LOS. That was Barry Sanders. And, if you'll read a bit, or watch a few old NFL films, I will bet that you'll discover that he never went for 118 consecutive carries with a "long run" of 19 yards. And, while I don't have such stats at my disposal, I suspect that he never went for 118 consecutive carries with less than 3 TDs!

***** So DROP your arrogant retorts to the press, Mr. Macaroney. You are not even close to having the production in your record to justify such an attitude. You are, to this point in your career, a TOTAL BUST as a Round 1 pick. If it were up to me, I would have signed Corey Dillon weeks ago, and given him time to work himself into shape for Playoffs. Then I'd bench your sorry ass for the playoffs, and put in a pro, who knows how to drive for a few extra yards when needed to make a 1st Down, or a TD!

***** OK, Mr. Macaroney. I'm still hungry. Come on, make me eat my words! I am, above all else, a Patriots fan. As long as you wear that uniform, I want nothing but the utmost success for you. I am convinced that you will not achieve any significant level of success on this team by "trying to make something happen" your way. By now, it should be as evident to you as it is to me, and thousands of other observers, some of whom probably HAVE "actually played RB", that either what you think you see is wrong, or you simply don't have the moves required at this level to get to the places you think you need to get to in order to "make a play".

SMARTEN UP!
GROW UP!
DROP THE ATTITUDE!
STOP PLAYING "MARONEY" FOOTBALL, AND START PLAYING PATRIOTS FOOTBALL!

My god this Reiss article shoots down everything da bruinz has ever said! Was Reiss the same guy you and j man relied on awhile back?

 

[Ring 6]

This coming from the guy who derails threads with all his anger filled posts.


Dabruinz would you like to make a bet? If I have any screen names others then Danny88 on this site I will delete my account and never post here again.

If I do not you do the same?


Deal?

Hey, Danny, in the other Maroney thread, I posted a list of players drafted in his slot, and all RBs drafted in the past 10 years in the back half of round 1.
You never responded. Just as you never responded to my post listing all of the starting RBs and where Maroney fits within them (the result being if he is the average of all starting RBs by 3/4s of the way through year 2, that is so far a very successful pick).
You seem to respond to every post except the ones that include facts you don't like.
Can you explain why you didnt respond to those?

 

[Ring 6]

My god this Reiss article shoots down everything da bruinz has ever said! Was Reiss the same guy you and j man relied on awhile back?

Its not a Reiss article, its a POST on Reiss' blog by the guy who started this thread.

 

[DaBruinz]

Yep, and they all play on crappy teams.

So after you put aside the meaningless stats, who would you have drafted with your first round pick with those four as the choice? I would have taken any of the three. Why? Because I need an all purpose back that will do different things. That's who I want. I already have a great third down back, so thanks, I don't need another one. I want a young Corey Dillon if I can find one, and that's how I spend my first round pick. How do you spend yours?

Your hypothetical is worthless and does NOTHING to support your point. Why? Well, several reasons.

1) Jones was drafted by the Cardinals back in 2000. Lynch was drafted THIS year, well before the Pats picked. Ronnie Brown was drafted 2nd over-all in 2005. So to say that you'd use that 1st round pick on one of them is just stupid because there is no way you could have. The Pats 1st round pick in 2000 was Bill Belichick. Their first round pick in 2005 was Logan Mankins, taken at the end of the round. And their first round pick this year was Brandon Meriweather, taken at 24 where Lynch was taken at 12.

2) You clearly don't live in reality. Which RB from last year's draft could be described as a young Corey Dillon? MAYBE LenDale White. But I think I'm insulting Dillon by saying that. Addai isn't in the Corey Dillon mold. He's in the Brian Westbrook mold.

3) The Patriots have decided to change their offense so utilize multiple running backs. They have a 9 year vet in Faulk who is one of the best pass catching RBs in the league and who can block extremely well. In Morris, they had an above average back who could carry the load if they needed it. He was a great compliment to Maroney. In Maroney, they have a 22 year old kid who has plenty of ability and is learning patience. Someone who the Pats are bringing along at THEIR pace. Not the pace of people like NSA and Danny88. People who were probably calling Wilfork and Warren busts after 1 year.

How would anybody be able to answer that authoritatively given the wall of silence in Foxboro?

You and others are the ones saying that Maroney is a disappointment or just plain sucks. If you can't answer that question, how can you have formed your opinion?

So in your world he got the second off. Nice - a vacation for our feature back. Yep, they're saving him again.

You don't watch much football, do you? The Patriots were up 35-7 entering the second half. It would have been a slap in the face to Jauron to continue to run Maroney.

In my world I heard the curious disagreement between Laurence and Bill about why he stood on the sideline.

There is no disagreement between Belichick and Maroney. Belichick wasn't the one who said Maroney had a foot injury.

And in my world you pound with your feature back, not third string guys.

Well, everyone knows your world isn't reality because trying to run a power running game with a guy who isn't a power back is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. In your world, you'd be a failure in the NFL

But gee, maybe in your world you have to "save" your feature back? For what, may I ask? Did they save him against the Ravens in the red zone? Yep, saved again. Given the vacation while Heath came in to run plays that Laurence can't run. Nice. First round pick rides the bench while Heath Evans plays Sammy Dillon, the role that Laurence doesn't seem able to learn.

Good, keep playing the vacation card. That goes a long way in the NFL.

You make idiotic claims that Maroney can't run plays. The problem is that you don't understand football even 10% as well as you have yourself believing.

OH, btw, who was it that scored the first rushing TD that game? On a 4 yard run in the red zone? OH yeah. Laurence Maroney.

Maybe instead of being stupid, you should look at the entirety of the situation. Not cherry pick facts so that way your argument is more wobbly than a Jenga game.

We are Patriots fans, not PatrioBotics fans. If we sniff something wrong, like diapers in the locker, and differing stories between the player and the coach, and see Heath Evans taking over in the red zone, I'm sorry, we're not buying the PatriotBotics arguments. Red Zone vacations for the first round feature back? When they absolutely need a win? Are you mad?

Your problem is that you either don't know about the diapers, don't know about the disagreement with the coach, don't read the defensive statements about "running style", or you simply don't want to know.

The problem is that you don't realize that the Diapers stemmed from an interview that Maroney's MOM did. NOT the idiot speculation that Felger put up about Maroney being immature. But far be it from you to get the facts. You, like NSA, Danny, and VJC, would rather blow things out of proportion than deal with other alternatives that make much more sense than the idiocy you've been posting.

Well, know this: If they continue to run Heath in the red zone then you are just pushing gas. Laurence is a first round pick. Do the math.

Front Seven Math = 1+1+1 = 200
DaBruinz Math = 1+1+1 = 3

The Pats spread the ball out to ALL of their players. Heath Evans is a 250 lb FB who is much better suited to pounding the ball against 300 lbs lineman in a goal line situation. But, in your eyes, you'd rather see Evans ride the bench, Maroney run into the ground, and the team not be as effective as it is.

 

[DaBruinz]

This coming from the guy who derails threads with all his anger filled posts.


Dabruinz would you like to make a bet? If I have any screen names others then Danny88 on this site I will delete my account and never post here again.

If I do not you do the same?


Deal?

I've never derailed threads the way you have. But, that is typical of a moron who doesn't live in reality.

Now, why would I make an imbecilic deal like that? All you'd have to do is delete the other user name and you'd automatically win.

I'm not an imbecile like yourself danny.

I have a better deal. If Maroney is dealt or cut at the end of this football season (defined by the start of next year's free agency), I'll delete my account and never post on Patsfans.com again. If Maroney ISN'T cut or dealt, then YOU delete your account and never come back.

 

[DaBruinz]

My god this Reiss article shoots down everything da bruinz has ever said! Was Reiss the same guy you and j man relied on awhile back?

Its a partial quote from a Reiss article with a Poster idiotic comments added in. Its amazing how he sounds like you and NSA. Totally uneducated about the game of football.

BTW, thanks for proving to everyone how you aren't capable of telling the difference between a Reiss article and a poster's comments. Shows just how smart you really aren't.

 

[onegameatatime]

The number of TDs has to be one of the dumbest criticisms I have heard. Some teams just have a big RB they use in the jumbo package, and for the Pats, it's Heath Evans. For Pittsburgh, it used to be Jerome Bettis.

The other problem is that critics of Maroney seem to be using the following syllogism: high draft means "feature" back, which means a certain set of statistics. But the Pats do not play an offense like many teams -- they use multiple back, many shotgun sets where Faulk is a very good back (and TB has said he likes shotgun), and they do a lot of pass-run plays, like the quick passes to Welker. I believe the only year we have had the really big RB year was Dillon in 2004.

I believe that if Addai were on the Pats, Faulk would still be playing third downs, Morris would have had a bunch of carries, and Evans would be used at the goal line. Indy, on the other hand, carries only 3 backs with a main back, a backup, and a backup backup.

 

[Ring 6]

Its a partial quote from a Reiss article with a Poster idiotic comments added in. Its amazing how he sounds like you and NSA. Totally uneducated about the game of football.

BTW, thanks for proving to everyone how you aren't capable of telling the difference between a Reiss article and a poster's comments. Shows just how smart you really aren't.

DaBruinz,
One thing I disagree with you on is the idea that you wouldnt use Maroney in situations because he is not a 'power back'. When we were running out the clock vs Buff if it was a 7 point game, Maroney would have been in there. BB chooses to use his 250lb FB, who has RB skills in short yardage, but could easily use Maroney. "Power runners" do not produce different results in different situations than any other type of runners of equal ability. It is a style not a requirement of any kind of running play.

My conclusion to all of these Maroney threads, at this point in his career is this:

-He is our #1 RB
-We run an offense that wants to throw the ball alot
-We have a 3rd passing game RB, so he will see playing time, taking what has been 4 carries a game away from Maroney
-Maroneys per carry #s are good. His gross numbers are so-so, but the gross numbers are not a reflection of his play, but his use, and his use is not a statement of a lack of ability.
-His use is affected by the one injury he had, and the numerous games that he was out of the game because it was decided. They are also affected by the fact that we have the best passing game ever, so if we are smart, we use it a lot. (by the way, no one has added that it is also due to the SUCCESS of the passing game. If we run/pass 50/50 and another team run/pass rate is also 50/50 we run less, because we gain more yards on the passes, and are in the end zone sooner)
-Today, at this point in his career, the best description of Maroney talent and play, compared to the league, is that he is better than half the NFL starting RBs and worse than half.
-That being the case, he was a GREAT PICK. Drafted 21st in the first round and by year 2 being the average starter in the NFL at your position is a tremendously successful pick.
-We do not know yet what Maroney will do when called upon to run the ball 25 times a game. The fact that we do not know is NOT a negative about Maroney. Every other factor says he will do fine, but until we reach the point where it happens, we can only guess.
-For the role he has been given, he has done very well. I see nothing saying that his role is at all limited because of him. I see nothing telling me he wont do very well in whatever role he is given going forward.
-I have no clue why some fans have an anti-Maroney agenda.

 

[eom]

Mr. Macaroney?

I don't get it