Kareem Brown to Jets

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Re: Any word on Kareem Brown?

Pretty sure the Jets will field a whole team of players we have cut.

Keep in mind the quality level of the Pats. Most of our backups would start on other teams and so the 54th man is often much better than what other teams have. On the Bills board they had a thread about which Bills player could start for the Pats. They came up with two - Lynch and their punter. The consensus was Evans would see considerable time but could not win a starting role.

 

[Fencer]

It's not obvious he would have re-signed with the Pats anyway, given how buried he was on the depth chart.

 

[Jimke]

Re: Any word on Kareem Brown?

Pretty sure the Jets will field a whole team of players we have cut.

The problem is that the list may also include Asante Samuels and

Randall Gay next year. Our replacements will be Tim Mixon, Antwan

Spann, and Mike Richardson.

 

[Rob0729]

The sad thing is that I wouldn't be surprised if Brown is starting for the Jets by the end of the season. Their d-line has to be one of the worst in the league, if not the worst.

 

[primetime]

Re: Any word on Kareem Brown?

Keep in mind the quality level of the Pats. Most of our backups would start on other teams and so the 54th man is often much better than what other teams have. On the Bills board they had a thread about which Bills player could start for the Pats. They came up with two - Lynch and their punter. The consensus was Evans would see considerable time but could not win a starting role.

I'd start Schobel. At OLB. Well, not really, but he's a special player.

Donte Whitner might start over Sanders or Harrison, too.

Lynch is questionable. Moorman in a second.

 

[MetalBleachers]

I just mentioned on another thread that the Jets have as many of our

2007 draft choices on their 53 man roster as we do (grand total of one).

Three out of nine is pretty lousy no matter how good the drafting team is.

If the Pats were going to blow away the 2007 draft, why didn't they

trade away all their choices except for the four complementary picks?

Didn't they have four picks in the 6th-7th rounds? I'm sure they tried to trade a few of those but couldn't make any deals.

This draft didn't work out (beyond the Moss and Welker trades, which is saying something ). With hindsight, two things to consider doing over:
1. Keep Justin Rogers, cut Chad Brown
2. David Harris over Meriweather
I'm willing to hear arguments for/against. Any others?

 

[cstjohn17]

Didn't they have four picks in the 6th-7th rounds? I'm sure they tried to trade a few of those but couldn't make any deals.

This draft didn't work out (beyond the Moss and Welker trades, which is saying something ). With hindsight, two things to consider doing over:
1. Keep Justin Rogers, cut Chad Brown
2. David Harris over Meriweather
I'm willing to hear arguments for/against. Any others?

The Patriots don't make mistakes in drafts, this was part of BB's plan to seed the enemy teams (Colts, Cowboys, Jets) with a series of under performers. I repeat no mistakes have or will ever be made.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

I just mentioned on another thread that the Jets have as many of our

2007 draft choices on their 53 man roster as we do (grand total of one).

Three out of nine is pretty lousy no matter how good the drafting team is.

If the Pats were going to blow away the 2007 draft, why didn't they

trade away all their choices except for the four complementary picks?

Two points:

1) BB overall does a great job drafting, but nobody is perfect. This line of logic is a lot like the sky is falling because the Eagles didn't allow the Pats to run up the score.

2) It is getting harder and harder for BB to make trades, because every time anyone trades with BB a year later that person is ridiculed for how stupid the trade was b/c the player who came to the Pats is now breaking records and the former Pat is now washed up.

 

[primetime]

1. Keep Justin Rogers, cut Chad Brown
2. David Harris over Meriweather

I can agree with the second one, based on what Harris would add to the team right now. But Rogers? What, exactly, has Rogers done that makes you think he would be an upgrade over Chad Brown? Rogers played DE in college and has never played LB in the pros, Brown is a former All-Pro OLB in a 3-4. Yes, he's well into his dog days, but there's a certain savvy you can't teach.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: J-e-t-s

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/11/k_brown_to_jets.html



Blech.

Hey look at it this way - by having the Jets grab him they kept him from the 49ers, and as long as we hold their draft pick I don't want them doing anything to get better.

And they kept him from the Ravens, who aren't TOO transparent in their motivations in getting Brown

The Jets are still the Jets - that is they still suck.

So while I'd prefer no one signed him, I'd take the Jets over the Ravens and 49ers.

 

[1976pats]

The Ravens and 49ers had also placed a waiver claim on Brown. But since the Jets have the worst record among the three teams at 2-9, they were awarded Brown.

We can blame Tully Banta Cain for this also....

 

[rainmaker]

Crap. Now, Mangini will be able to question Brown and find out BB really intends to kick his arse!

 

[captain stone]

Maybe someday he'll outplay Santonio Thomas.

Makes you wonder what it would have hurt to just throw darts at every player with LB next to his name?

Eggs-actly, Batman.

Why not take a chance on Brandon Siler with one of the late 6th-round picks? Or Kelvin Smith?

Moss and Welker are graet pickups, but the rest of the 2007 draft has been an unqualified, unmitigated disaster.

 

[Jimke]

Didn't they have four picks in the 6th-7th rounds? I'm sure they tried to trade a few of those but couldn't make any deals.

This draft didn't work out (beyond the Moss and Welker trades, which is saying something ). With hindsight, two things to consider doing over:
1. Keep Justin Rogers, cut Chad Brown
2. David Harris over Meriweather
I'm willing to hear arguments for/against. Any others?

I agree with you but Bill Belichick probably does not. I don't think
the Pats will spend a high draft pick for a linebacker in the near future.
BB has never drafted and groomed a young linebacker to be a starter.
He inherited Bruschi, Johnson, and McGinest and signed Vrabel, Phifer,
Colvin, Thomas, Brown, and Beisel as free agents. I think he wants to
deal with known quantities rather than groom a rookie for four years and
then have him leave via free agency.

 

[tombonneau]

Good thing they drafted another DL instead of a LB.

 

[patsox23]

HOW ABSOLUTELY BRAINDEAD STUPID IS KAREEM BROWN? This isn't the normal "wants a chance to play" move or the big bump in pay. I mean, Christ, like the Pats weren't going to put him on the practice squad and tab him as the FIRST guy on the roster as soon as we have one injury? On an undefeated team, quite possibly on the way to a Super Bowl championship and a huge place in History. But, by all means, sign with the 2-9 jets. LOL!

This is short-sightedness to the nth degree by Kareem and his agent. Idiotic.

 

[mcbee]

It's not obvious he would have re-signed with the Pats anyway, given how buried he was on the depth chart.

Pats had him on a 4 year deal. He was their prisoner, no matter how good he was. Very cheap.

Should have kept him and left Chad Brown off. Who needs a 36 year old LB? Who was out of football?

 

[rainmaker]

He got picked off waivers. I don't think he had a choice?

 

[primetime]

HOW ABSOLUTELY BRAINDEAD STUPID IS KAREEM BROWN? This isn't the normal "wants a chance to play" move or the big bump in pay. I mean, Christ, like the Pats weren't going to put him on the practice squad and tab him as the FIRST guy on the roster as soon as we have one injury? On an undefeated team, quite possibly on the way to a Super Bowl championship and a huge place in History. But, by all means, sign with the 2-9 jets. LOL!

This is short-sightedness to the nth degree by Kareem and his agent. Idiotic.

He wants to play? I can't blame the guy for that. Jeez, thinking every scrub would want a chance to sit on the Patriots practice squad and get mailed a ring they had nothing to do with rather than go a team and be in the mix for a starting job is idiotic.

Besides, he was picked up on waivers. Don't think he had a choice in the matter. But go ahead, go off on the guy.

 

[patsox23]

Eggs-actly, Batman.

Why not take a chance on Brandon Siler with one of the late 6th-round picks? Or Kelvin Smith?

Moss and Welker are graet pickups, but the rest of the 2007 draft has been an unqualified, unmitigated disaster.

I think people who try to gauge Day One prospects before three years have passed, let alone 2/3 of his rookie year should be summarily BOUNCED from any discussion of football outside of two-hand touch. This site used to be a good source of savvy, mature insights. Sad.