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Ok, I'm into my second bottle of wine but I have to say something.I still can't believe Peyton Manning is Super Bowl champion.I LOVE the New England Patriots. I feel though that this was the year to send off Peyton Manning and I suspected somehow though he was finished as a QB it would happen and it did. I want to deny it but I feel deep in my soul that Bellichick purposely squandered home field advantage when we could have won one one of those games. We all know that you don' t take your chances in Denver. It is a cursed place for us.My logical brain says the NFL is entertainment only and legally they can produce a fixed outcome like pro wrestling. My emotional brain says Brady and Bellichick are fierce competitors and the best in the business. In the end though they are employees of the NFL who feed them millions. I think Brady still played his heart out knowing but trying to overcome the verdict but Bellichick held the levers and the referees we there when needed.
 
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2 bottles in? Sleep it off big guy
My one day off tomorrow. I will sleep in but my opinion will not change, my friend. They could have stayed with Osweiler like we stuck with Brady in the beginning but they carted out the dinosaur Peyton and depended totally on the defense. Osweiler could have managed the game just as well through the Super Bowl. I just think the Pats tilted the outcome per NFL orders by squandering home field which was ours for the taking.
 
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I just think the Pats tilted the outcome per NFL orders by squandering home field which was ours for the taking.

I think that's a pretty big leap to make, personally.

Did the NFL salivate at the thought of Manning winning the SB? Of course, but did Bill Belichick and Tom Brady purposely throw games in the process? I think that's extremely unlikely.

The bottom line is that our season fell apart after starting 10-0 due to injuries, which once again, proves the point that you can start out with a great record but the 'real' games don't begin until January.

The Broncos took advantage of a tough defense and a lack of running game/OL protection. Even then, we still came pretty close had it not been for the missed XP. Any semblance of a running game once Blount became injured and things likely would've been much different.
 
It was not.

Gost missed an Extra-point.
Our O-line couldn't block to save their life.
Our RBs were non-existent
Only Edelman and Gronk can get separation.
Collins (Yes, Collins) was burned twice against Owen Daniels.
We didn't pressure enough an 39 year old, immobile Manning.
Did not go after Mathis (or anyone else), even though we had a glaring deficiency in the G position.
Last but not least:
We let the HFA slip out of our hands.

Trying to blame it in whatever other than ourselves is silly.

Good thing is: Next season is a new season. And we are still with the GOAT QB and the GOAT Coach
 
I think that's a pretty big leap to make, personally.

Did the NFL salivate at the thought of Manning winning the SB? Of course, but did Bill Belichick and Tom Brady purposely throw games in the process? I think that's extremely unlikely.

The bottom line is that our season fell apart after starting 10-0 due to injuries, which once again, proves the point that you can start out with a great record but the 'real' games don't begin until January.

The Broncos took advantage of a tough defense and a lack of running game/OL protection. Even then, we still came pretty close had it not been for the missed XP. Any semblance of a running game once Blount became injured and things likely would've been much different.

I know what you are saying and I want to agree but do you honestly think we went all out to win home field?
 
I know what you are saying and I want to agree but do you honestly think we went all out to win home field?

I respect your skepticism, but I think the injuries make it virtually impossible to try and balance health with winning.

The fact that they continued to risk not only our 2 top players (Brady and Gronk), but two of the top players in the entire NFL tells me that yes--they were still trying to win with one hand tied behind their backs. Unfortunately, it didn't work out.

Had they rested both of those players, I'd tend to side with you a bit more.
 
Ok,fair enough,but what is your opinion of the coaching through those games?
 
Ok,fair enough,but what is your opinion of the coaching through those games?

This is a team that has been to 6 Superbowls in the past 15 years and average 12 wins a year in that period, and you question the coaching?? If only one side was coached it might make sense, but the idea is to try to win..

Imo the decimating injuries finally caught up to them.. so much so whatever coaching or game planning occurred could not overcome gaps created by the injured players.
 
I don't think it was outright rigged, reply assistant being a bronco fan aside. I do think they completely looked the other way on the numerous signs for heavy denver PED use and were happy with the outcome.
 
the only thing that tell me it ain't so is the fact that fixing it for peypey doesn't help fill the league front office with money
 
After all my time watching football I felt like the regular season game in Denver was the most egregiously suspicious fixing of a game I've ever seen. And they knew they wouldn't catch much **** for it being that it was a regular season game. And they knew that Denver holding a tiebreaker would make it much more likely that they hold home field advantage. I'm not sure I'll ever get over that one
 
You should prob give up watching sports if you think the entire NFL post-season was rigged.
 
We didn't pressure enough an 39 year old, immobile Manning.

He had 2 good drives the whole game. Pressure had absolutely zero to do with it. The ticky tack call on Ryan to keep their 1st drive going when Edelman and Gronk were held on the Pats 1st and 2nd drive and there was no call had all to do with it.
 
It was not.

Gost missed an Extra-point.
Our O-line couldn't block to save their life.
Our RBs were non-existent
Only Edelman and Gronk can get separation.
Collins (Yes, Collins) was burned twice against Owen Daniels.
We didn't pressure enough an 39 year old, immobile Manning.
Did not go after Mathis (or anyone else), even though we had a glaring deficiency in the G position.
Last but not least:
We let the HFA slip out of our hands.

Trying to blame it in whatever other than ourselves is silly.

Good thing is: Next season is a new season. And we are still with the GOAT QB and the GOAT Coach

It's very impressive that the NFL can make all of those things happen plus make Cam Newton serve up turnovers like they were going out of style so they could hand the Broncos a title and send Manning off right.

Christ, some of you are so butthurt about this. Let it go. A team we don't like won a Super Bowl and their window is already closing. **** happens. Reading crap like this is absolutely embarrassing. The OP at least has an excuse: he was hammered.
 
After all my time watching football I felt like the regular season game in Denver was the most egregiously suspicious fixing of a game I've ever seen. And they knew they wouldn't catch much **** for it being that it was a regular season game. And they knew that Denver holding a tiebreaker would make it much more likely that they hold home field advantage. I'm not sure I'll ever get over that one

So don't watch the product. Problem solved.
 
This is one of those threads that gets posted on other teams forums because its so ******ed....please stop making the rest of us look bad.
 
The only thing more ridiculous than people thinking the games themselves are fixed is people thinking the games themselves are fixed but they watch anyway and still get emotionally invested in the outcome.
 
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