Latest Cheating Accusation; From Soon to be Toronto Jills Fans

[goheels22002]

You guys are such frigging homers. You think it's " just a coincidence " that Tom Brady destroyed his old watch when he bought his new Apple watch and that he now controls the scoreboard? Why else would be buy an Apple watch?????

Belichick and Brady should be in jail.

Yeah, right. Like Belichick and Brady couldn't get out of jail...

 

[Joker]

Buffalo passed on Brady six straight times, nitwit. Stop breathing, it'll be better for your mental health.

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

I fully acknowledge that 1993-2016 has been little short of QB heaven. I'm just talking about you telling us that we don't know how lucky we are. We do.

1990 - 1992

Head Coaches: Rod Rust and **** McPherson

1 - 15
6 - 10
2 - 14

And I already gave you the QB list. We've been way, way down in **** Valley, and now we're on top of Championship Mountain. We know full well just how lucky we are.

That's nice and all, but you are still only quoting three years of misery. Three.

 

[TommyD4207]

It's not an excuse. It's just that we haven't hit on one. You guys have. That's it.

No no. You had two. Let them both walk for nothing.

Flutie walks for Rob ****ing Johnson. The 3rd string QB from ****ing Jacksonville. That was a first round pick.

You trade a first-round pick for Drew Bledsoe, he's the last guy you had with a winning record for 10 years (cut after going 9-7), because you drafted...wait for it....J.P. Losman in the first round.

So no. You hit on two. Two guys with winning career records and winning career playoff records, for two FIRST ROUND PICKS, who ended going a combined 19-40 with Buffalo.

No. It's not bad luck. It's terrible player management. That's not the same thing.

Also, you dumb ****s ran them both out of town for the toolbags you wasted first-round picks on.

Then you sign Ryan Fitzpatrick (career record in Buffalo - 20-33) for 6 years, $59 million. How much of that dead money is still on the cap.

You know, since you cut him for ANOTHER stupid first round pick in E.J. Manuel, who you TRADED UP FOR, and NO ONE ELSE WAS GOING TO DRAFT HIM.

He's now your 3rd QB.

But no, I'm sure signing a glorified running back who has started all of zero games, and was cut twice there...he's the savior.

It's not bad luck. It's incompetence, and your fans serve an important role in continuing that incompetence, by running capable people out of town, and clamoring to spend all sorts of money on suckbags, because they won that one game one time.

Maybe you'll actually make the playoffs for the first time this century. But see, this is the ceiling for your team. You don't currently need a QB to win games. That's good for Rex. But Rex falls apart as time goes on (yet another awesome hire, top 5 defense already...sign Rex Ryan. Genius), and you'll be in cap hell either next year or the year after.

So good luck. Not that you'll know what to do with it.

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

Buffalo passed on Brady six straight times, nitwit. Stop breathing, it'll be better for your mental health.

As did every team in football. The Pats were fine with passing on him five times. How shrewd!

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

No no. You had two. Let them both walk for nothing.

Flutie walks for Rob ****ing Johnson. The 3rd string QB from ****ing Jacksonville. That was a first round pick.

You trade a first-round pick for Drew Bledsoe, he's the last guy you had with a winning record for 10 years (cut after going 9-7), because you drafted...wait for it....J.P. Losman in the first round.

So no. You hit on two. Two guys with winning career records and winning career playoff records, for two FIRST ROUND PICKS, who ended going a combined 19-40 with Buffalo.

No. It's not bad luck. It's terrible player management. That's not the same thing.

Also, you dumb ****s ran them both out of town for the toolbags you wasted first-round picks on.

Then you sign Ryan Fitzpatrick (career record in Buffalo - 20-33) for 6 years, $59 million. How much of that dead money is still on the cap.

You know, since you cut him for ANOTHER stupid first round pick in E.J. Manuel, who you TRADED UP FOR, and NO ONE ELSE WAS GOING TO DRAFT HIM.

He's now your 3rd QB.

But no, I'm sure signing a glorified running back who has started all of zero games, and was cut twice there...he's the savior.

It's not bad luck. It's incompetence, and your fans serve an important role in continuing that incompetence, by running capable people out of town, and clamoring to spend all sorts of money on suckbags, because they won that one game one time.

Maybe you'll actually make the playoffs for the first time this century. But see, this is the ceiling for your team. You don't currently need a QB to win games. That's good for Rex. But Rex falls apart as time goes on (yet another awesome hire, top 5 defense already...sign Rex Ryan. Genius), and you'll be in cap hell either next year or the year after.

So good luck. Not that you'll know what to do with it.

Well, if you think competence is drafting your HOF QB 199 overall then I guess you should be a GM.

 

[Deus Irae]

That's nice and all, but you are still only quoting three years of misery. Three.

The time period is irrelevant to your initial claim. Hell, as a Bills fan, who are you to be crying at all? You had 1988-1999. When you change to a Lions fan, and you don't even have something like that to fall back on, get back to me.

 

[Wordsmyth]

A Toronto Jills troll! How cute!

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

The time is irrelevant. Hell, as a Bills fan, who are you to be crying at all? You had 1988-1999. When you change to a Lions fan, and you don't even have something like that to fall back on, get back to me.

Good point, I suppose it could be worse. Point was to juxtapose your whining about a 3 year stretch of waywArd QB searching vs a 20 year one. All teams look for a QB. Some, like NE and GB get a stretch of 20 years of quality QB play. When that happens, bask in it.

 

[TommyD4207]

Well, if you think competence is drafting your HOF QB 199 overall then I guess you should be a GM.

Nice deflection, but no.

You wasted four first-round picks (including Bledsoe, who you cut for nothing) and how many tens of millions of dollars on people that anyone could tell you couldn't play.

Competence isn't the go-to whine line that you're trotting out.

Competence is not ****ing up on a first round pick, and then keeping a guy on the roster and developing him over time INTO a HOF QB. Tom Brady didn't wake up in 2000 as a Hall of Famer. It wasn't until 2004 that he consistently played on that level. I think that's around the time you were cutting Bledsoe for JP Losman.

So if the inaccurate "luck" line helps you sleep at night, whatever. The reality is, your front office sucks, your coaches can't develop anyone, and you throw away good QBs and waste first-round picks on terrible ones.

That's scoreboard. And you helped, because you ran them out of town, and pressured them into signing Ryan Fitzpatrick. That ****'s on you, because you spent your time lamenting "Wah wah 6th round pick"

Hell, even a 1st round bust like Eason won a couple of playoff games.

Picking a QB in the first round is supposed to be pretty easy. What's your excuse? 6th round pick? No, more loser's lament.

 

[Deus Irae]

Good point, I suppose it could be worse. Point was to juxtapose your whining about a 3 year stretch of waywArd QB searching vs a 20 year one. All teams look for a QB. Some, like NE and GB get a stretch of 20 years of quality QB play. When that happens, bask in it.

But I wasn't whining. You were. I was just responding to your claim, pointing out that we do, in fact, know how lucky we are, and offering a point of reference regarding it.

 

[Joker]

whining? Deus is eviscerating you....I'd accuse YOU of whining but that would be redundant.

oh..and BTW...

wide right, forward lateral, no goal, nuff said.

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

Yep, again, you can point the finger a you want. That's easy when you hit on pick 199. Here is the point:

The Bills have tried and tried to get a franchise QB. They haven't hit. Gotta keep trying tho. Sooner or later they will.

 

[Joker]

Yep, again, you can pint the finger a you want. Here is the point:

The Bills have tried and tried to get a franchise QB. The haven't hit.

Now THAT is some pure, unadulterated Buffalonese...

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

But I wasn't whining. You were. I was just responding to your claim, pointing out that we do, in fact, know how lucky we are, and offering a point of reference regarding it.

Fair enough, and perhaps I misunderstood your point. You guys are lucky, and bask in it now, because it sucks when you are stacked everywhere but can't get past 9-7 because of your QB.

 

[Deus Irae]

whining? Deus is eviscerating you....I'd accuse YOU of whining but that would be redundant.

oh..and BTW...

wide right, forward lateral, no goal, nuff said.

I get it, Joker. We're in the midst of, arguably, the greatest football run any one team's had in the Super Bowl era. It's between the Steeler, 49ers and Patriots for that feel good title. It's tough on the fans of other teams when they compare.

I just won't buy into the arguments that we don't know what we've got, or any of that crap. We know the highs. We know the lows. And (Ben Dreith, Lin Dawson's knee, Desmond Howard's returns, David Tyree's helmet catch, Manningham's 38 yard catch on the sidelines) we know the devastation of the lows during the biggest game, too. We've got Hernandez, and the Lisa Olson case, and Fryar's knife issues, and on, and on, and on.

We, as Patriots, fans have had to deal with the gamut of football highs and lows. We don't need to take the nonsense about us not understanding, from anyone...

 

[Deus Irae]

Fair enough, and perhaps I misunderstood your point. You guys are lucky, and bask in it now, because it sucks when you are stacked everywhere but can't get past 9-7 because of your QB.

I hear you on this. We've had a taste of it (2008, as we went from 16-0 to missing the playoffs), and that's enough. I'll stay on the gravy train, thanks.

 

[TommyD4207]

Yep, again, you can point the finger a you want. That's easy when you hit on pick 199. Here is the point:

The Bills have tried and tried to get a franchise QB. They haven't hit. Gotta keep trying tho. Sooner or later they will.

This Bills have failed and failed to get a franchise QB.

Also, they had two, and cut them for nothing, while wasting 1st round picks on bums.

I mean, seriously, how many times can you blow a first round pick?

Chad Pennington won playoff games, Mark Sanchez isn't the best, but HE has won playoff games. Would you rather have your glorified RB or Ryan Tannehill right now? You could have traded up a couple of spots. But no, you get Stephon Gilmore (who is, you know, ok at best), and you trade up the NEXT year for EJ Manuel for no reason, and then the year after that, you trade up again for Sammy Watkins - you know, cause you were so good with EJ Manuel, that you benched him, what, 3 games into the season, instead of drafting Teddy Bridgewater or Derek Carr, who you passed on several times with all your awesome trade manuevering.

THAT is Buffalo.

Hell, you lost 3 years of Jim Kelly because you were too cheap to pay him. Because, you know, you were good with Vince Ferragamo.

So blame luck. And when you're done, stare yourself in the mirror, because you're ****ing part of the problem.

 

[Lets Go Buffalo]

I get it, Joker.

We know the lows. And (Ben Dreith, Lin Dawson's knee, Desmond Howard's returns, David Tyree's helmet catch, Manningham's 38 yard catch on the sidelines) we know the devastation of the lows during the biggest game, too. We've got Hernandez, and the Lisa Olson case, and Fryar's knife issues, and on, and on, and on.

We, as Patriots, fans have had to deal with the gamut of football highs and lows. We don't need to take the nonsense about us not understanding, from anyone...

It's not nonsense, it just me reacting to posters telling me how horrible the Bills have been at finding QBs when your sure fire first ballot QB went 199. Maybe I'm thin skinned, but this nonsense about how the Bills stink at finding a QB while the NE narrative is they knew what they were doing at pick 199 is disingenuous at best and specious at worst.

The Bills have tried, they have failed. Hopefully they keep trying. And as I said originally, if Taylor can be Dalton level, the Bills will be good. No need to bring past failures at finding a QB to posit that Taylor will suck. He may. But the past choices at QB by Bills management have nothing to do with Taylor now.

 

[XLIX]

Fair enough, and perhaps I misunderstood your point. You guys are lucky, and bask in it now, because it sucks when you are stacked everywhere but can't get past 9-7 because of your QB.

If a team is "stacked everywhere" then they'd be a lot better than 9-7, no matter who the QB is.