NFL vs. Brady Federal Court Hearing (8/19) LIVE UPDATES AND TWEETS

[reflexblue]

I can't help it. The excitement inside me is growing.

Yeah, me too. this is getting really juicy. Berman is ripping nash, wells, and goody a new one. Nash throws Goody under the bus. This is great to read after months of it being one sided in favor or the nfl.

 

[Gronkowski123]

daniel kaplan ‏@dkaplanSBJ 20m20 minutes ago
Judge Berman concerned that NFL did not make jeff pash available to testify, said other cases vacated over such an issue

this is all he needs.
throw this garbage out! #vacate

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 33s33 seconds agoManhattan, NY
My impression: Berman tipped his hand a bit to NFL in an effort to make the sides settle.

Settle, I think it's a clear line the NFL should offer 8k fine, no suspension, no addmitance of guilt and Brady won't be able to sue for defamation. Right now, that looks like a good deal for the NFL, only OK for Brady.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Lol

Stephen BrownVerified account‏@PPVSRB
Kessler: "No one in the NFL knew anything about the ideal gas law, which is surprising because I think I studied that in 9th grade."

Seriously! I was a ****ing business major who never took any science courses after high school physics, and even I'm familiar with the IGL. How can these clowns live in New York and not have some general understanding of the concept that pressure drops when it's cold?

It's a concept that informs so many small parts of day-to-day life in the winter that I just can't understand how someone living in New York could fail to realize that the general concept exists.

 

[SVN]

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 2m2 minutes ago
Stephen Brown retweeted Andrew Brandt
Def agree with this point. Aggressive questioning a way to urge settlement.
Stephen Brown added,
Andrew Brandt @adbrandt
Again, can't read too much into strident questioning of NFL. Berman's goal is settlement, does not want to rule. Added a court date (8/31).

 

[The Gr8est]

I love that the judge appears to be siding with Brady, but I'm liking the NFL* less and less, the arrogance and injustice they are trying to ram through.

Once again, Bleep the NFL*!

 

[signbabybrady]

I'm not laughing as much as you... Berman seems to be minimizing the science. I suppose I should be happy he is actually delving into the case instead of just looking at "is RG allowed to do this", but still.... Untrained eye : Berman thinks something WAS done to the balls, but disagrees strongly with how NFL handled case with no proof and botching all the evidence.

I don't think it's accurate that Berman is ignoring science pretty sure he is just tabling that discussion I believe very early in the process he accepted that balls can naturally deflate but that it doesn't automatically mean additional air couldn't be let out. Basically science doesn't prove one way or the other. And moved on to all other evidence.

 

[reflexblue]

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 2m2 minutes agoManhattan, NY
Berman: "Which of the four games were for ball tampering and which were for non cooperation?"
Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 1m1 minute agoManhattan, NY
Berman: "The next time someone tampers with a ball but cooperates, what suspension would he get?"

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 6m6 minutes agoManhattan, NY
Nash: "Brady was not just generally aware. He was involved." Berman: "Why doesn't it say that?"

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 47s47 seconds agoManhattan, NY
Berman: How did he pick steroid use to explain he suspended Mr. Brady four games?"

Touch down...

 

[BradyFTW!]

Even if it is a false leak, it's a pointless one, because settlement offers will be moot once Berman will rules on the issue.

It's legally pointless, yes. But guess what headline was leading ESPN this morning. Further evidence to the dumb, uninformed viewing public that Brady "knows he's guilty and his trying to weasel out of accepting the full punishment he deserves".

This leak, like all the others, is far more about perception and smearing Brady than anything else.

 

[SVN]

mike reiss called this line of questioning 2 weeks ago

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...ory-highlighted-on-pages-268-270-of-testimony

 

[TommyD4207]

I'm not laughing as much as you... Berman seems to be minimizing the science. I suppose I should be happy he is actually delving into the case instead of just looking at "is RG allowed to do this", but still.... Untrained eye : Berman thinks something WAS done to the balls, but disagrees strongly with how NFL handled case with no proof and botching all the evidence.

I disagree. I think he thinks the science is so irrelevant and what happened here wasn't really a thing - that it doesn't matter about the science.

Not only that, he's not supposed to be re-litigating the case.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Matt TaibbiVerified account‏@mtaibbi
Berman also ripped NFL lawyer Nash for implying Brady "probably" had done this before.

heh, the NFL should find something that points to he probably did it once. then maybe build up from there...it's like they are driving towards a cliff, but can't see it.

 

[reflexblue]

Is berman going to go after PA after this or the hearing is over?

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 24s24 seconds agoManhattan, NY
Berman: "I don't understand the thinking to not allow Mr. Pash as a witness. Who else but Pash had the opportunity to edit the Wells Report?

Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 27s28 seconds agoManhattan, NY
Berman: The NFL "cannot just conclude they cannot have a witness bc testimony would be cumulative."

Another TD, we're up by at LEAST three TDs

 

[Hoodie]

Did Berman ask Kessler any questions?

 

[SVN]

Seriously! I was a ****ing business major who never took any science courses after high school physics, and even I'm familiar with the IGL. How can these clowns live in New York and not have some general understanding of the concept that pressure drops when it's cold?

It's a concept that informs so many small parts of day-to-day life in the winter that I just can't understand how someone living in New York could fail to realize that the general concept exists.

They all know the IDL. Just didnt want to apply it here.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 25s26 seconds ago
NFL lawyer repeatedly cited "integrity of the game." Judge interrupted at one point: "So everything goes to the integrity of the game."

 

[farn]

You are making good points. I suppose he may already be "reaching" more into the case vs Brady than many thought he would.

I can't trust the leaks (obv) that suggest Brady is open to missing a game. He cooperated.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 3m3 minutes ago
Main argument from NFL's side remained that Goodell had authority to make findings and court should defer to him as the arbitrator.

 

[SVN]

Did Berman ask Kessler any questions?

Not much has been tweeted except this. Today shows the way the settlement talks have gone in private.

Dan Wetzel ‏@DanWetzel 43m43 minutes ago
Tweets don't do it justice but at one point Judge Berman asked Kessler to read positive Brady testimony into the record. Just one example.

 

[reflexblue]

Nash is calling Pash not relevant - red herring . and said Brady team opted not to seek his testimony when it had 2nd chance. Hilarious. Isnt this what wells and NFL did with 4 interviews of McNally?

Wasn't it Pash that invoked client, council privilege?