CORRECTION: brady willing to accept 1 game for failure to cooperate is UNTRUE

[denverpatsfan]

I am not sure why Brady would accept a 1-game suspension. Unless they think this will end badly?

 

[IllegalContact]

You're kidding yourself if you don't think this will be talked about at his induction. The difference is that it will be talked about ad nauseum if he accepts one game. The media will report it as being a wide admission of guilt and will only gloss over it being about non-cooperation. If he's looking at accepting a penalty for non-cooperation, it needs to be a fine. There is a precedent there.

and you're sounding psychotic.........and once again, you are comparing non-cooperation on something off field versus on field.......I would kill you arguing this point in a court of law.........you have a better argument with no player ever being suspended for an equipment violation

 

[IllegalContact]

I am not sure why Brady would accept a 1-game suspension. Unless they think this will end badly?

or not end at all

 

[karguy85]

I am not sure why Brady would accept a 1-game suspension. Unless they think this will end badly?

Say the lawyers think it is a 60/40 chance the suspension gets vacated. Would you rather have a 40% of having to serve 4 games or a 100% chance of having to serve 1 games. That would be why (obviously I made up the percentages).

 

[SHOWTIME15]

did you fail in logic?

yes, accept a 1 game suspension for something you didn't do. makes perfect sense to me.

 

[karguy85]

yes, accept a 1 game suspension for something you didn't do. makes perfect sense to me.

You're looking at it in a vacuum. Some times you are forced to cut your losses, even when you're innocent.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

and you're sounding psychotic.........and once again, you are comparing non-cooperation on something off field versus on field.......I would kill you arguing this point in a court of law.........you have a better argument with no player ever being suspended for an equipment violation

once again, you are talkng about a court of law wheras kontra is talkng about the court of public opinion.

 

[Patstopia]

This is all just the league floating out BS to see what sticks. They want an outcome that looks like they won! For the league a suspension would prove they were right. A fine would be a loss for the league.

The NFLPA would be against a non cooperation penalty in general as it creates a future precedent that works against the PA. They wouldn't want a standard penalty for noncooperation to be one game!

 

[Clonamery]

You're looking at it in a vacuum. Some times you are forced to cut your losses, even when you're innocent.

Not per league sources, the vacuum is also guilty of deflation.

 

[Kontradiction]

and you're sounding psychotic.........and once again, you are comparing non-cooperation on something off field versus on field.......I would kill you arguing this point in a court of law.........you have a better argument with no player ever being suspended for an equipment violation

The ad hom tells me my argument here is making sense and you're just not ready to admit it yet. Thanks. Further, off the field vs. on the field makes zero difference and is simply something you're tossing in here as a red herring. It's wholly irrelevant. What's relevant is that they were both investigations in which the "defendant" was asked to hand over his cell phone and neglected to do so. For Favre, the punishment was a fine. For Brady, the punishment should therefore be a fine. They call this sort of thing "precedent" for a reason.

 

[ANGR89]

yes, accept a 1 game suspension for something you didn't do. makes perfect sense to me.

It's crazy!!! And what's all over the radio? Basically Brady willing to accept suspension because he knows he can't win (alluding to guilt ) it's so frustrating and I hope it's not true he's willing to accept suspension.

 

[slackerjack]

Brady takes a game. The NFL next week leaks that they have more "evidence" of Brady's scheme but didn't present it to save Bob Kraft additional anguish.

Once the season starts and Brady sits out a game and all anyone will remember is that Brady was suspended for Deflategate.
NFL - Wins
Brady -Loses.

 

[archstanton543]

It's crazy!!! And what's all over the radio? Basically Brady willing to accept suspension because he knows he can't win (alluding to guilt ) it's so frustrating and I hope it's not true he's willing to accept suspension.

That's why this whole thing doesn't smell right to me. It feels like it's the NFL is up to their old tricks (Brady destroyed his phone! 11 of 12 2lbs under!) again.

 

[FourierSeries]

once again, you are talkng about a court of law wheras kontra is talkng about the court of public opinion.

Court of law is the only thing that matters. Court of public opinion is irrelevant. The only opinion Brady should care about at this point is that of those who will be voting him into the HOF. They've already come out and said he would still be a first ballot HOFer even if found guilty.

F&ck everyone else.

 

[karguy85]

It frustrates me that everyone here thinks coming to a settlement where he sits 1 game for lack of cooperation is an admission of guilt. There are a lot of moving parts to this case, and the fact that you can't be sure how Berman will rule means you need to look at all possibilities logically. Brady has declared his innocence over and over and that is good enough for me (as long as he doesn't accept the Wells Report or involvement in ball deflation). Thinking that people will think differently about him because he accepted a game (and not for ball deflation) doesn't make sense to me. Not guilty people accept settlements all the time without admitting guilt, and that doesn't mean they are guilty. Ever heard of nolo contendere?

 

[aluminum seats]

You're looking at it in a vacuum. Some times you are forced to cut your losses, even when you're innocent.

But willingly accepting the penalty is the biggest loss of all. You're not cutting anything.

 

[aluminum seats]

It frustrates me that everyone here thinks coming to a settlement where he sits 1 game for lack of cooperation is an admission of guilt. There are a lot of moving parts to this case, and the fact that you can't be sure how Berman will rule means you need to look at all possibilities logically. Brady has declared his innocence over and over and that is good enough for me (as long as he doesn't accept the Wells Report or involvement in ball deflation). Thinking that people will think differently about him because he accepted a game (and not for ball deflation) doesn't make sense to me. Not guilty people accept settlements all the time without admitting guilt, and that doesn't mean they are guilty. Ever heard of nolo contendere?

All people will remember is that Brady accepted a suspension for deflate gate. And that matters.

 

[karguy85]

But willingly accepting the penalty is the biggest loss of all. You're not cutting anything.

Yes you are cutting your losses regardless of whether you are guilty or innocent. If you think you have a good chance of sitting out 4 games, agreeing to sit out 1 game is the very definition of cutting your losses.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

It frustrates me that everyone here thinks coming to a settlement where he sits 1 game for lack of cooperation is an admission of guilt. There are a lot of moving parts to this case, and the fact that you can't be sure how Berman will rule means you need to look at all possibilities logically. Brady has declared his innocence over and over and that is good enough for me (as long as he doesn't accept the Wells Report or involvement in ball deflation). Thinking that people will think differently about him because he accepted a game (and not for ball deflation) doesn't make sense to me. Not guilty people accept settlements all the time without admitting guilt, and that doesn't mean they are guilty. Ever heard of nolo contendere?

the problem is you are thinking like a lawyer. everyone else is just thinking normal.

 

[karguy85]

All people will remember is that Brady accepted a suspension for deflate gate. And that matters.

Everyone outside of New England thinks he is guilty anyway. Do you think Berman overturning Brady's suspension on procedural grounds will change that? If so, you are sorely mistaken. Also, I would definitely not want you advising any of my clients.