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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.What did you EXPECT reading Borges?
It's OK if you want to punish yourself reading these things but don't complain to us about it.
I see Borges. I don't read it. Simple.
I'm a bit surprised he got life in prison with NO chance for parole whatsoever. That seems warranted only if the amount of evidence is very overwhelming and clear...
I'm a bit surprised he got life in prison with NO chance for parole whatsoever. That seems warranted only if the amount of evidence is very overwhelming and clear...
So do you guys think he will be tried for those two murders of those guys outside that club that were shot?
He's all done. He'll be screwed on the double-murder charge anyway even if he had an appeal overturn the conviction.It is automatic if you get convicted of first degree murder. There is only one penalty for that charge and it is life without the possibility for parole.
And the standard is for first degree murder is premeditation and/or extreme atrocity or cruelty. Hernandez got the first degree murder charge because the jury thought the later.
Of course. That will seal the deal. He's done. Those families deserve justice as well, no matter what those guys were up to. He's gonna get punked if he goes to Shirley. Probably getting PC'ed to Norfolk. With his high profile he's basically going to an isolation unit for about 15 years.So do you guys think he will be tried for those two murders of those guys outside that club that were shot?
But thats long gone now. There was no doubt to me he was the one to pull the trigger. He made his bed, now he needs to live with the circumstances.
I don't pretend to understand the criminal mind.
He did not feel pain in others - what is it that will cause him to feel pain?
Whatever it is, I hope he does.
A couple of comments on the comments
1. I was pleasantly surprised by the jurors' results when I first heard. I was getting worried that they weren't going to find him guilty. The fact is that although the circumstantial evidence was strong, the lack of the gun, motive, or much physical evidence could have made it tough to convict if you saw it that way.
2. I am a proud, born and bred, native of MA. We aren't perfect (see our driving ), but as a state, we've proven to be more often on the right side of things than not.
3. I was particularly proud of how our citizens handled the Boston Marathon Bombing and the next few days. There was no rioting or looting. The most stubborn and independent people in the country, actually obeyed the authorities and stayed offf the streets the next few days and allowed the criminals to be caught. There were no repercussions after their capture toward innocent Moslems, or Chechnyan's Boston Strong was more than just a logo on a tee-shirt
4. I felt that same pride when the verdict came out. It was clear to all who saw juror press conference that these were ordinary citizens who did their duty took it seriously and worked at it. Reporter after reporter couldn't say more about these people after hearing them out. Like many said, juries like this are what show why the jury system works" "The Jury system at its best", etc, etc "Clearly it wasn't about THEM, it was about the process"
5.Aaron Hernandez is a sad morality tale of a terribly wasted life. Regardless of the life he grew up into, there was no longer a need for him to still be in it at that stage of his life. I hope that at some point of his incarceration THAT realization strikes home. In the end it could simply be that the guy is a certified sociopath and he's where he best belongs.
6. Easy of critics to dump on the Pats that they should have known in advance. But the fact is that until his arrest, Hernandez had never missed a meeting, practice, or charitable obligation during his time with the Pats. It was like he had a double life that he kept separate.
7. The fact is that if the Pats hadn't drafted him, someone else would have within the next round and he would have shown the same success for some other team those first 2 years. And when it all blew up, like it did, there would have been the same kind of surprise, followed by the legion of "I told you so's", by the judgmental. mediots.
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Typical Borges. He took shots at the Pats in his column in the Herald today about Hernandez. He even used the famous quote by Matt Light that Light claimed he never said and the reporter who wrote put words in his mouth. Of course Borges doesn't mention that.
I won't quote his column because I don't want to provide a link. It is shameless how he has repeatedly used the murder of Odin Lloyd to push his agenda against Belichick.
Great thoughts, Ken.
Regarding the sociopath comment, Hernandez actually takes it one step further by fitting into Hare's checklist (PCL-R, stands for "psychopathy check list--revised) as a pure psychopath.
Not that many will care, but here is a quick list of the traits used to differentiate and determine a true psychopath. As you can see, Hernandez fits the bill with a pretty high score. Throw in the drug problems, and we have a pretty screwed up kid here.
The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
- glib and superficial charm
- grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
- need for stimulation
- pathological lying
- cunning and manipulativeness
- lack of remorse or guilt
- shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
- callousness and lack of empathy
- parasitic lifestyle
- poor behavioral controls
- sexual promiscuity
- early behavior problems
- lack of realistic long-term goals
- impulsivity
- irresponsibility
- failure to accept responsibility for own actions
- many short-term marital relationships
- juvenile delinquency
- revocation of conditional release
- criminal versatility
Read more: http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.html#ixzz3XVSGQp00