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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I'm pretty sure that mgteich means by compensation cash intake
Revis $20M - down to $16M with a long term extension
Dmac isn't going anywhere. Hes exactly the kind of consistent and mature player we extend. There's no reason to think Harmon (...or Ryan?) could do his job.They might let McCourty walk if they think the other two guys from Rutgers can do his job.
Maybe revis won't insist on breaking the bank?
Why can't I just speak numbers and let Miguel do all the dirty work?The cap savings for Revis would be $12M if Revis were to accept a $14M AAV 3 year contract. Even increasing the contract to $16M a year wouldn't change the 2014 cap hit (simply add $3M to the 2016 and 2017 salaries).
The cap hit for Revis is $25M if we pick up his option of paying him $20M for 2015. The dead money is equal to $5M (and is therefore irrelevant).
So, it is right to speak of $20M as you do. Consider a contract with $18M of bonus and salaries of $1M, $9M and $14M. This contract is equal to $14M a year. The 2014 cap hit is $7M ($1M plus $18m/3).
BEFORE - $25M cap hit ($20M plus $5M dead money)
AFTER - $12M cap hit ($1M plus $6M plus $5M)
CAP SAVINGS = TWELVE MILLION rather than the 4 that you imply by having him go from $20M to $16M.
We can. There's just a lot of difference between a savings of $4M and a savings of $13M (my edited total).Why can't I just speak numbers and let Miguel do all the dirty work?
Oops!Please note that $4.5 million of Mayo's $6.25 million is guaranteed for injury. Until he passes a physical, that injury guarantee is in effect.
If these numbrs are correct then I personally think Amendola and Arrington are players who could be considered on the hot seat.
Revis will have to sign an extension at about $14m per year or he will be gone unfortunately. but that will free up a ton of money. $6m+
Arrington due to - Ryan, Dennard and Butler all playing at a high (enough) level to maybe make us want to keep the $3m more.
Amendola because he simply hasn't lived up to his contract billing.
I think the key to this situation is what happens with Revis.
I think it depends on price. Everyone is overpriced at some figure.Dmac isn't going anywhere. Hes exactly the kind of consistent and mature player we extend. There's no reason to think Harmon (...or Ryan?) could do his job.
I'd rather see us sign him to a real 3 year contract instead of a 2 year contract spread over 3 years. I don't think Revis will take some kind of "winning team discount" as some claim, as there probably are winning teams willing to pay him big bucks. But I could see him want a more realistic 3 year $14M AAV contract as it will be harder for him to get a large contract as he gets older.The cap savings for Revis would be $13M if Revis were to accept a $14M AAV 3 year contract. Even increasing the contract to $16M a year wouldn't change the 2014 cap hit (simply add $3M to the 2016 and 2017 salaries).
The cap hit for Revis is $25M if we pick up his option of paying him $20M for 2015. The dead money is equal to $5M (and is therefore irrelevant).
So, it is right to speak of $20M as you do. Consider a contract with $18M of bonus and salaries of $1M, $9M and $14M. This contract is equal to $14M a year. The 2014 cap hit is $7M ($1M plus $18m/3).
BEFORE - $25M cap hit ($20M plus $5M dead money)
AFTER - $12M cap hit ($1M plus $6M plus $5M)
CAP SAVINGS = 13 MILLION rather than the 4 that you imply by having him go from $20M to $16M.
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BOTTOM LINE
IMHO, we will not pay Revis $20M. So, since the cap savings is $12M even if the new contracts has an AAV of $16M, I would think that when we look at 2015, we should expect a cap savings of at least $13M, $20M if we can't reach a deal with Revis.
I'd rather see us sign him to a real 3 year contract instead of a 2 year contract spread over 3 years. I don't think Revis will take some kind of "winning team discount" as some claim, as there probably are winning teams willing to pay him big bucks. But I could see him want a more realistic 3 year $14M AAV contract as it will be harder for him to get a large contract as he gets older.
I agree that $14M AAV is reasonable. But I see the contract you suggested as a 2 year contract with a cap hit stretched over 3 years because of that last year $20M cap hit. Still $14M AAV for 2 years though. But I'd much rather see him sign a 3 year contract with us where the last year is realistic and not just a cap stretcher.Miguel has suggested $14M AAV as reasonable. I noted above that even if we give him a bit more, the 2015 cap would not be affected; there would be a $13M cap savings under the structure that I have given.