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[supafly]

Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:

(d) Laying a hand on a receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.

Thanks. Yes, part (d) is the rule that I was referring to, where you may have your hand on the receiver's back or waist, as long as you don't turn them around or impede their progress moving forward.

In other words, just b/c Browner had his hand on Thomas' waist doesn't necessarily mean that it was DPI.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Thanks. Yes, part (d) is the rule that I was referring to, where you may have your hand on the receiver's back or waist, as long as you don't turn them around or impede their progress moving forward.

In other words, just b/c Browner had his hand on Thomas' waist doesn't necessarily mean that it was DPI.

Yep- He got screwed

 

[chasa]

how is nobody talking about the broncos missed field goal that clanged off the newly raised goal posts?

 

[MrNathanDrake]

Kind of random but, Chandler Jones sitting out 4-6 weeks may be a blessing in disguise if he comes back 100% healthy in mid-December.

He always gets fatigued and his performance drops at the end of the year due to playing so many snaps. With a long time to rest this season, we may get him back just in time for a couple tune up games and the playoffs.

 

[AzPatsFan]

No one is talking about...

Rob Ninkovich, as usual. Ergo, the new jersey on the left.

Is that Rob Ninkovrabel , # 50 ???

 

[Mack Herron]

Thanks. Yes, part (d) is the rule that I was referring to, where you may have your hand on the receiver's back or waist, as long as you don't turn them around or impede their progress moving forward.

In other words, just b/c Browner had his hand on Thomas' waist doesn't necessarily mean that it was DPI.

Is there a call that is more subjective or draws more ire than PI? We see incidental contact flagged and Gronk gets held with two hands and no call. The problem was that Browner did more than have his hand on the receiver; Browner had his arm wrapped around the receiver's waist, and that will be called more often than not.

 

[supafly]

Kind of random but, Chandler Jones sitting out 4-6 weeks may be a blessing in disguise if he comes back 100% healthy in mid-December.

He always gets fatigued and his performance drops at the end of the year due to playing so many snaps. With a long time to rest this season, we may get him back just in time for a couple tune up games and the playoffs.

"IF" he comes back, you're right--it could be very beneficial to our stretch run.

The problem is that your "4-6 week" estimate seems to be crazy optimistic. As of last week, they weren't even sure that he was definitely going to return this year. I think we should be happy if he's back in 6-8 weeks, which seems much more reasonable.

The fact that he doesn't need surgery is certainly a positive, and a chance that he could return.


http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...-not-return-this-season-out-at-least-6-weeks/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-chandler-jones-huge-blow-to-patriots-defense

 

[skspikex2]

Revis actually make quite a few rushing tackles, he isn't afraid to tackle. Think it was him and McCourty that cause the Spiller fumble in Buffalo.

 

[Ring 6]

"When a linebacker rushes the passer off the line of scrimmage, it's considered a blitz. But for me, it's more about the numbers"

Bruschi has his own definition of blitzing.

Hightower and Collins are LB's who play off the LOS. So yeah, they were blitzing up the middle.

Not really though because when they rushed ayers and or nink dropped.
Bruschis point is they rushed 4 which isn't really a blitz.
People are confused because we have a versatile defense where rushing and covering players are interchangeable.

 

[Ring 6]

"IF" he comes back, you're right--it could be very beneficial to our stretch run.

The problem is that your "4-6 week" estimate seems to be crazy optimistic. As of last week, they weren't even sure that he was definitely going to return this year. I think we should be happy if he's back in 6-8 weeks, which seems much more reasonable.

The fact that he doesn't need surgery is certainly a positive, and a chance that he could return.


http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...-not-return-this-season-out-at-least-6-weeks/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-chandler-jones-huge-blow-to-patriots-defense

I think by now we should know that estimates from a 'source close to a player' about an injury on this team must be taken with many grains of salt.

 

[Fencer]

I was surprised to learn this week that the prevailing definition of "blitz" is based strictly on numbers, but so be it.

Ninko isn't Vrabel in charisma nor in offensive ability, but defensively on the field they're very comparable indeed.

 

[Ring 6]

Is there a call that is more subjective or draws more ire than PI? We see incidental contact flagged and Gronk gets held with two hands and no call. The problem was that Browner did more than have his hand on the receiver; Browner had his arm wrapped around the receiver's waist, and that will be called more often than not.

Actually that is legal if he doesn't restrict the player.

 

[mayoclinic]

Not really though because when they rushed ayers and or nink dropped.
Bruschis point is they rushed 4 which isn't really a blitz.
People are confused because we have a versatile defense where rushing and covering players are interchangeable.

Isn't that just a zone blitz?

 

[supafly]

I think by now we should know that estimates from a 'source close to a player' about an injury on this team must be taken with many grains of salt.

I'm not disputing your general comment that ALL media reports should be taken with a grain of salt, but Jeff Howe/Herald reported that 6 weeks is very optimistic. It's in one of the links that I posted. Sometimes the injury reports that we get from beat writers are spot on, sometimes they aren't. Often they are at least in the ballpark.

Bottom line is that there's a very little chance that he'd be able to return for the Colts game, which would be right around the 4 week mark, and that was my general point in response to the poster.

 

[supafly]

Actually that is legal if he doesn't restrict the player.

That's kind of what I thought as well, although the fact that his arm was wrapped around the waist may lead to a 50/50 sort of call. I think it would have helped had his arm simply been on the back, instead.

Either way, I think it was a very shaky call, especially based on the specific circumstances at the time. That should've been a no call IMO.

 

[letekro]

No one is talking about...

Rob Ninkovich, as usual. Ergo, the new jersey on the left.

All I can say is that when Mayo went down, I initially thought it was Ninkovich...and was relieved when I found out it was Mayo. That's how important I think #50 is.

 

[Canuck]

1: Revis was mentioned so little after that, I thought he might be injured and had to look to see if he was still on the field

2: I'm so used to seeing defenders just touch a defender when they are on the ground like that, I was a little shocked when the Patriots were laying on big hits while they were laying on the ground. I was looking for a flag when they did that because I thought the refs would call unnecessary roughness

3: I was pissed at the Browner call then Pats players were being blatantly held on Hillman's TD. I thought here we go again the refs are going to give the Broncos every chance they can to give them an advantage.
Glad that after that it didn't seem they favored either team with their calls. The announcers were pissing me off though, Any marginal play they thought the pats should be penalized and any blatant Broncos missed call was never even mentioned.

 

[PATS16N0]

Revis didn't get a lot of mentions after the first few Bronco possessions because Peyton was too scared to even look in his direction.

For having such almighty Godlike powers (except when it rains, snows, there's a slight breeze, chilly weather, during noise, or against good defenses), Princess Peyton was sticking with his first read Geno Smith style a lot of that game.

 

[Oswlek]

Is there a call that is more subjective or draws more ire than PI? We see incidental contact flagged and Gronk gets held with two hands and no call. The problem was that Browner did more than have his hand on the receiver; Browner had his arm wrapped around the receiver's waist, and that will be called more often than not.

Visually, yes. Technically, no.

 

[BTTA]

Is there a call that is more subjective or draws more ire than PI? We see incidental contact flagged and Gronk gets held with two hands and no call. The problem was that Browner did more than have his hand on the receiver; Browner had his arm wrapped around the receiver's waist, and that will be called more often than not.

If he had any kind of grip on him at all here, it would impede the receiver. Perhaps only by .5%, but it would impede him. So if the rule is written without any subjective requirement of the ref about how much the receiver is impeded, the flag has to be thrown.