We're On To The 1-5 New York Jets

[IcyPatriot]

I hope we aim to injure in this game. Play dirty as ****. Take them out completely. Let's end their last chance the right way.

:rotfl:

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/threads/268478-On-to-Brady-and-the-Patsies/page2

 

[Deus Irae]

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/threads/268478-On-to-Brady-and-the-Patsies/page2

I have no doubt that Ray Ray has legitimate, and serious, mental health issues.

 

[james87654]

jets fans are old school.....

kind of like spartans

warrior poets

 

[obgod3]

So I see this game being closer than some people think. For some reason it seems the Jets give Brady fits, maybe that's just perception of a few games not the total since Rex has been there.

But with Mayo gone I see some issues and for some reason we seem to let ****ty QB's look like the next Montana.

They held Denver to 24 and I feel like Denver is a slightly better team than the pats right now. Now the Jets had nothing for Julius Thomas so Gronk and TW should be able to have a field day on the Jets.

 

[Ozymandias]

Sorry, but they are concerns whether you like it or not. That's just the reality of the situation, the same as Milliner will be a new concern for the Jets, for example.

No one said they weren't concerns though. That's just your misinterpretation, and if you read my previous response to your first response to you'd notice that I stated that you could apply most of those concerns in the Jets game from the Bills one. Why? Because those were some of the same ones that we heard going into that game:

How would they run the ball against a great run defense? How would they protect an injured Brady against a great D-Line and build on the momentum from the Bengals game along the offensive line when the one of the main catalysts to their resurgence from that game, in Stork, wasn't going to play? How would the LB corps play against the run without Hightower who was close to suiting up but was shut down before kickoff?

If these sound eerily similar to what potential problems the Jets could offer, it's because they are. Moreover, these same concerns didn't stop the Patriots from winning the game by double digits. And if you were to poll the board with the question of what would be the outcome of the game given those same concerns going into whilst losing Connolly and replacing him with Devey, to also losing Mayo and Ridley most would have said they would've lost given the pre-game concerns. But they didn't, because the game the of football is more about execution and situational awareness than it is about pre-game concerns.

The Patriots answered the bell resoundingly to those concerns against the Bills despite being undermanned because they were better than Buffalo and out-executed them along with doing basic things like keeping their composure in a big divisional game for the right to be at the top of it. I expect the same thing to happen against the Jets. Being the better team at home on a short week offsets whatever personnel disadvantages New England has going into this game.

Every opponent is going to presents problems and concerns. Even Oakland, for instance. Buffalo certainly did, and the Patriots overcame them in a way harsher set of circumstances. I expect nothing different this week either. New England is playing at much higher level now offensively than they were early in the season. They carved up two defenses back-to-back despite having plenty of concerns heading those contests too. Having concerns does not mean a team isn't capable of beating an inferior squad to that one they just handled by 10+, who themselves has very similar concerns, and perhaps even greater being an overall better team, especially in a more favorable situation.

 

[PATS16N0]

lol This game is going to be annihilation. We swept them in 2011, 2012, and only split with them in 2014 because of the officials calling that nonsense on their missed field goal.

Expect this game to be be reminiscent of 45-3 or a buttfumble. This defensive is going to make Geno want to quit the NFL, even without Mayo. Expect Jets offense to lose the ball 4 times. Meanwhile, Edelman, Wright, Gronk and LaFell are going to embarrass their sorry secondary.

Brady going to flay the Jets for Rex's final game in the Razor

 

[Deus Irae]

No one said they weren't concerns though.

For context....

Your original line:

I can't fathom why anyone would be weary of this game anymore than the Bills game.

Me:

No, you really couldn't apply those concerns to the Bills game.

You

You actually could, because the Patriots dealt with those injuries within the game and still won by 15 against a better team than the Jets in a tougher environment and situation.

Basic stuff here.

What started off with general concerns became 'new' concerns because you started claiming they're not new concerns, because they applied to the Bills game. So, yes, you did say what you said. Context.

To put it another way: The team is bringing in a bunch of linebackers, and will be looking to replace its RB1, because of things that are not really concerns in your book, because they were "dealt with" in the Bills game.

 

[Joker]

jets fans are old school.....

kind of like spartans

warrior poets

old school? yeah, little house on the prayery

spartans? close but , again, no....fartans, yes

warrior poets?..please...that implies a command of a language..."OG JTSE" is not of any known origin other than Joisey....worrier nowayetts is the description you seek.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

I'm ready B to M...

Say hello to the toe sucking fat fokk of a fraud of a coach for me, won't you?

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Andy Hart ‏@JumboHart 36m36 minutes ago
This is funny from Geno Smith's conference call. "One of these days, one of these games, we’re going to put it all together … [phone dies]"


SOJ Everyday. Franchise and fan base can all go pound sand. Is the prediction thread up yet!?!

 

[Ozymandias]

What started off with general concerns became 'new' concerns because you started claiming they're not new concerns, because they applied to the Bills game. So, yes, you did say what you said. Context.

Context is right. As is reading comprehension. I never once stated that they weren't any concerns. And you keep saying that I did but you'll still never provide a quote of where I did because there isn't any. The concerns were noted, but pre-game concerns aren't what wins football games. Execution and situational awareness are. Moreover, what I started off with was that it's baffling that people would think the Patriots are going to struggle against Jets, given that they just faced a team with very similar traits but are all-around better and were able to still beat them in a hostile environment with the division lead on the line.

And then you stated:

Already shaky OL + Connolly concussion + Stork concussion = concern
Already thin LB corps + Mayo injury + Hightower injury = concern
Already struggling running game + Ridley injury = concern
Injured Brady + excellent Jets DL = concern

And I simply said that these concerns are no different than what occurred during the Bills GAME itself because they're not. But you're incorrectly acting as if they are completely different concerns altogether. They are not. Those concerns remain the same because they had to actually played through them, they actually played without Mayo and Connolly for more than a half and we've actually seen how they responded to these issues against a better team on the road in a tougher environment and they were still able to win by double digits.

Moreover you responded here:

No, you really couldn't apply those concerns to the Bills game. Mayo, Ridley and Connolly played in the Bills game, and the Patriots weren't trying to find substitutes for starters on a short week.

Which is not factually accurate, none of them finished the game. As such they did have to find substitutes in the game they were actually playing. Just because it didn't happen a day later does not change the fact that the team still had to deal with those issues on the fly and needed adequate substitutes to hold their own in order to achieve victory.

Along with that like stated above, the pre-game concerns against the Bills were of effectively running the ball against a great run defense and dealing with their rocking crowd noise. Did those just disappear because you said so? Along with those, protecting an injured Brady against a great D-Line without Stork for the entire game and then having to deal with Connolly being out for more than a half? Is this not a concern IN GAME either? The LB corps playing against the run without Hightower for the entire game and Mayo for more than a half? And what about this, not an in-game concern either, right? Despite, these issues they still beat the Bills and will do the same against New York.

Either case this argument devoid of any purpose was a fruitless endeavor from the get go, and one that I'm not interested in wasting anymore time on. The end.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/t...rimary-reason-yesterday-wasn-t-a-blowout-loss


Do jets fans know it's bad when you have a D coordinator as a head coach who has no sense of how the O is run or how it's put together? Yet he is the reason they were in it. Oh yeah..they jets were in that game alright...

In the end, you have to take the bad with the good. Maybe a coach like Jon Gruden would have given this team another TD yesterday, but he probably would've cost us at least 10 points on defense. Fact is, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy, and many other Super Bowl winning head coaches would not have even had their team in a position to tie the game at the end, because they couldn't put together the defensive game plan that Ryan did yesterday to even have his crappy roster in the game with a chance to win in the 4th quarter.

Good with the bad? i see the bad....but where is the GOOD there dipshit? Yea we played a great game on D!...and lost by 14+

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Based on how JT played vs them. Gronk is going to KILL that D Thursday. If the wind will let brady throw the ball...20-30 mph? yikes

Good for Geno!

 

[Deus Irae]

Geno Smith has thrown at least one interception in every game this season.

 

[Hael]

I'm a little worried about this game. We are a significantly better team than the Jests, but their strengths are our weaknesses (interior defense against our interior OL) and they will probably lay it all on the line b/c their season really depends on them getting a win on thursday.

Without Ridley we aren't going to run against that front (which is really the best in the game at run D), and Rex blitzes from every direction, so we might have issues moving the ball for awhile while our inexperienced oline figures things out. They'll take away the short middle of the field, so we will need again big games from Tyms/Dobson/Lafell/Gronk along the sidelines and deep middle.

On offense, they will have some chances to run against us with Mayo and Siliga out. If Hightower isn't there, we might have a really long day as they have quite a few rbs that can catch out of the backfield. Also watch out for Geno running the ball (again b/c our lbs are thin atm)

Of course everyone likes our dbs vs their receiver matchup. We have shutdown potential all over the field there, and its likely we get multiple coverage sacks against Geno.

Still, this is not going to be a high scoring game. I suspect its goign to be an ugly grind out win for us, but with the potential for more injuries.

 

[PATS16N0]

I'm a little worried about this game. We are a significantly better team than the Jests, but their strengths are our weaknesses (interior defense against our interior OL) and they will probably lay it all on the line b/c their season really depends on them getting a win on thursday.

Without Ridley we aren't going to run against that front (which is really the best in the game at run D), and Rex blitzes from every direction, so we might have issues moving the ball for awhile while our inexperienced oline figures things out. They'll take away the short middle of the field, so we will need again big games from Tyms/Dobson/Lafell/Gronk along the sidelines and deep middle.

On offense, they will have some chances to run against us with Mayo and Siliga out. If Hightower isn't there, we might have a really long day as they have quite a few rbs that can catch out of the backfield. Also watch out for Geno running the ball (again b/c our lbs are thin atm)

Of course everyone likes our dbs vs their receiver matchup. We have shutdown potential all over the field there, and its likely we get multiple coverage sacks against Geno.

Still, this is not going to be a high scoring game. I suspect its goign to be an ugly grind out win for us, but with the potential for more injuries.

Don't be. The Jets suck. Our secondary is going to make Geno Smith rethink his life.

Gonna' be another massacre

 

[Rob0729]

I'm a little worried about this game. We are a significantly better team than the Jests, but their strengths are our weaknesses (interior defense against our interior OL) and they will probably lay it all on the line b/c their season really depends on them getting a win on thursday.

Without Ridley we aren't going to run against that front (which is really the best in the game at run D), and Rex blitzes from every direction, so we might have issues moving the ball for awhile while our inexperienced oline figures things out. They'll take away the short middle of the field, so we will need again big games from Tyms/Dobson/Lafell/Gronk along the sidelines and deep middle.

On offense, they will have some chances to run against us with Mayo and Siliga out. If Hightower isn't there, we might have a really long day as they have quite a few rbs that can catch out of the backfield. Also watch out for Geno running the ball (again b/c our lbs are thin atm)

Of course everyone likes our dbs vs their receiver matchup. We have shutdown potential all over the field there, and its likely we get multiple coverage sacks against Geno.

Still, this is not going to be a high scoring game. I suspect its goign to be an ugly grind out win for us, but with the potential for more injuries.

The Jets have been inconsistent with their pass rush even blitzing. And if you blitz Brady especially with their secondary, you better get to him or he will absolutely destroy you.

I expect the Pats to throw a lot of short quick passes. That is the best way to neutralize the Jets' pass rush especially in driving rain.

 

[Ross12]

Rex Ryan: Let him make the dinner, but don't let him buy the groceries. Because he would just buy all snacks. And only let him make the defensive portion of the dinner, he doesn't know how to make the offensive portion.

Yeah, he's a great head coach.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

How awesome would this be? Won't happen however

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...triots/2014/10/a_dream_job_for_darrelle_revis

Picture this dream sequence playing out. The Pats are in the red zone. Tom Brady drops back to pass on third-and-goal. He goes through his reads then quickly fires and hits . . .

Darrelle Revis.

Touchdown.

Could it happen? Would Bill Belichick ever let his superstar cornerback flip across and play with the offense? In a Border War game, no less? The premise opened an interesting discussion with Revis last week.

First off, we heard a while back Revis was itching to catch a touchdown pass from Brady against the Jets, who spurned him after he became a free agent earlier in the year. Supposedly, the scenario was discussed with the Patriotss brain trust before he signed in March.

So, was this true or false?

Revis wouldn’t admit to this desire, but he didn’t deny it, either. Let’s just say based on our chat, the former Jet wouldn’t mind having the above scenario play out when the Pats hook up with Rex Ryan and the 1-5 New York Jets.

 

[supafly]

Don't be. The Jets suck. Our secondary is going to make Geno Smith rethink his life.

Gonna' be another massacre

Rex promises that "you'll see" how tough they play us on Thursday in his presser today.

Most of his predictions are wrong--however, he has gone out on a limb vs N.England and been correct though too. He often has them play us fairly tough.

Personally, I highly doubt that it's going to be anything close to the blowout that you are envisioning, especially with the rain/wind, but I hope to be very, very wrong. We really need to go into the longer break with a 5-2 record.