Defense Untested; Offense Found Lacking

[rochrist]

I think there's more than one bozo in the Patriots' fan base.

We're all bozos on this bus!

 

[iapatsfan]

Collins played 20 snaps and is recovering from an injury severe enough to keep him out last week. Funny but stupid.

The race is on. Easley vs. Collins...who makes his first play of the year?

Hightower has been very good though.

 

[Fencer]

The race is on. Easley vs. Collins...who makes his first play of the year?

One of them already has an INT, no?

I think the DTs as a group are ahead of the LBs right now in total INT count ...

 

[Archeryaddict12]

One of them already has an INT, no?

I think the DTs as a group are ahead of the LBs right now in total INT count ...

Don't feed the troll

 

[iapatsfan]

One of them already has an INT, no?

I think the DTs as a group are ahead of the LBs right now in total INT count ...

My bad. Should have said "makes his first play that matters". I have a feeling Collins will be living off last year's Indy game for awhile.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

just finished rewatching the game, my thoughts

pretty much every reception that Oakland made was against Ryan. dennard can't get back fast enough. although I still can't see how he committed PI on Okland's last drive, if anything he was the victim of PI.

Easley did cause Carr to throw the Wilfork int, otherwise nothing else from him.

Jones knocked down 2-3 passes and was a force the whole day, he is headed for Superstardom!
Hightower is also making a lot of plays.
McCourtey was invisible.
Mayo was solid made a ton of tackles.

Offense:

O-line was terrible, got better with Stork. Devey shouldn't see the field again. solder was awful, I'm guessing he is hurt.

Labelled only has to stop acting on his pick plays, he gets called because he makes it look so obvious that he is trying to look like he is not setting a pick.

Amendola had 2 balls thrown to him, the Lafelll pick and the quick out at the goalie that Welker scored 100 TDs on. Brady had to lead him because he got no separation.

Wright needs to play more.

Gronk, Gronk, Gronk, just keep feeding the beast.

Can they finally admit that everyone knows that it is going to be a hand off to Ridley when they quick snap on first and ten! It puts them behind the sticks every time.

Brady missed a wide open Gronk in the first quarter.

No big yardage plays. Brady has to convert 5-6 3rd down plays in order for them to score on any drive. That is the offenses biggest problem.

Endelmen has become a great player.

Ghostkowski has also become money, perfect on FG and no returns.

 

[rochrist]

The race is on. Easley vs. Collins...who makes his first play of the year?

Hightower has been very good though.

Collins made some plays vs Miami.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Collins made some plays vs Miami.

Don't feed the troll

 

[patsfanincleveland]

The DEFENSE has looked very good indeed. Unfortunately, they are untested. They will play many, many stronger teams that what we've seen. That being said, the defense is greatly improved over last year, and could be a top 5 defense. We do lack depth at DE and LB, but there are no glaring weaknesses.

The OFFENSE has looked surprising poor (certainly not playoff quality), compared to what we expected and compared to last year. They have a long way to go. The passing game has gotten little out of Amendola, Dobson and Thompkins. Today, LaFell produced about what we should expect, 2-4 catches a game. Obviously, we are getting more out of the TE position than last year. We have little depth at RB. Bolden seems awful except on Special Teams. We lack depth at RB and TE. Unfortunately, we currently have weakness across the OL and at WR. And yes, the offense is out of sync (Brady, the OL and receivers).

My BOTTOM LINE is that my prediction is still the same as always: a division win (or tie for the division), a place in the playoffs and 11-5. However, I must say that the team that I have seen so far may not make the playoffs. THEREFORE, I expect major improvements over the coming weeks. There is enough talent in players, coaches and ownership to make that happen.

I have learned to always focus on the next game and on the division. We are have enough talent to win both.

You can always tell it's September at patsfans.com because some idiot starts a thread like this one.

Refer to Mayoclinic's post of recent history (post #11) and that tells the story.

A better utilization of time would be spent reviewing Oakland's Week One game in Indy last year. Give Allen credit for a good game plan that slowed the game and limited possessions. The Raider's did this last year against the Colts and lost a close one 21-17.

A couple of points:

Anybody remember Week 2 in 2012 against Arizona? All hell broke loose because the o-line was going to get Brady killed and the Patriots would never win again. Actually, this happens every year

The pace of the offense needs to improve. In a game of 9 possessions, every problem gets magnified. Once the offense picked up the pace starting drive 3, the offense scored on 4 of 7 drives.

ESPN had an interesting stat today showing the lowest yards per attempt by Manning was last year in Foxboro. Yet somehow this much better defense gets questioned about facing an elite QB in Manning.

 

[mayoclinic]

Anybody remember Week 2 in 2012 against Arizona? All hell broke loose because the o-line was going to get Brady killed and the Patriots would never win again. Actually, this happens every year

Annual Patsfans complaints about this pathetic perennial 12-4 or better team include:

- The OL will get Brady killed
- The secondary is a sieve
- There is no pass rush
- The defense plays too soft
- Brady isn't spreading the ball around enough
- We don't run the ball enough
- [substitute the coordinator of your choice] is incompetent
- BB sucks as a GM

You can pretty much count on these being paraded every year. We've already heard most of them this year, and it's only week 4.

 

[mgteich]

Thank you for the worst analysis so far this year.

I indicated that we have a lack of depth at LB and DE. I suggested that CURRENTLY we have weaknesses at OL and WR. Actually, I expected a "duh" and a question of why I bothered to state the obvious. Posts like yours showed the need.

Your response was to look at games in 2012 and 2013. Perhaps those game demonstrate 204 depth at DE and LB. Perhaps those games suggest that there ar CURRENTLY no weaknesses at OL and WR. Or perhaps, just perhaps, games in 2012 are not relevant to how well our current team played on Sunday.

You can always tell it's September at patsfans.com because some idiot starts a thread like this one.

Refer to Mayoclinic's post of recent history (post #11) and that tells the story.

A better utilization of time would be spent reviewing Oakland's Week One game in Indy last year. Give Allen credit for a good game plan that slowed the game and limited possessions. The Raider's did this last year against the Colts and lost a close one 21-17.

A couple of points:

Anybody remember Week 2 in 2012 against Arizona? All hell broke loose because the o-line was going to get Brady killed and the Patriots would never win again. Actually, this happens every year

The pace of the offense needs to improve. In a game of 9 possessions, every problem gets magnified. Once the offense picked up the pace starting drive 3, the offense scored on 4 of 7 drives.

ESPN had an interesting stat today showing the lowest yards per attempt by Manning was last year in Foxboro. Yet somehow this much better defense gets questioned about facing an elite QB in Manning.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Thank you for the worst analysis so far this year.

I indicated that we have a lack of depth at LB and DE. I suggested that CURRENTLY we have weaknesses at OL and WR. Actually, I expected a "duh" and a question of why I bothered to state the obvious. Posts like yours showed the need.

Your response was to look at games in 2012 and 2013. Perhaps those game demonstrate 204 depth at DE and LB. Perhaps those games suggest that there ar CURRENTLY no weaknesses at OL and WR. Or perhaps, just perhaps, games in 2012 are not relevant to how well our current team played on Sunday.

Yeah

Thanks for proving my point.

My response was not about games in 2012 and 2013...it's about the same idiot posting back in 2012 and 2013. Refer to mayo's posts.

Year after year after year the same dumb things get posted at this time by the same posters and it never ever changes. At what point does the same pattern like............sink in?

.....if you ever want to learn something vs posting nonsense, take my advice.........go watch the 2013 Week One Oakland game in Indy. They followed the same game plan and lost a close game to a superior team.

If you want to complain, question the game plan that saw over 31 minutes of TOP with only 71 plays and 9 drives. When the offense picked up the pace starting drive 3, they scored on 4 of 7 drives.

Of course , you can keep posting the same stuff....maybe sometime by 2055 you might actually be right for once.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Annual Patsfans complaints about this pathetic perennial 12-4 or better team include:

- The OL will get Brady killed
- The secondary is a sieve
- There is no pass rush
- The defense plays too soft
- Brady isn't spreading the ball around enough
- We don't run the ball enough
- [substitute the coordinator of your choice] is incompetent
- BB sucks as a GM

You can pretty much count on these being paraded every year. We've already heard most of them this year, and it's only week 4.

Great list Mayo

I would add that the "wins have only come against poor teams" does seem to be missing.