(serious): Colin Kaepernick 6 years 110+ million, with 61 million guaranteed

[Brady6]

Now he can afford a Dolphins jersey to go with his hat…

 

[PP2]

Kaepernick is very good. You get a good QB, you need to pay him. That's just the reality.

Not at the expense of your team.

 

[ausbacker]

Paying Kaepernick that kind of money means the 49ers are going to have to take away money elsewhere. Good.

 

[Brady6]

I just cannot see giving $61M to a player whose last two offseason have consisted of sexual assault investigation, allegations of smoking weed, wearing another team’s hat, and doing body shots on South Beach.

I think that the 49ers will regret this, especially when they start losing the Willis, Bowman, Smith, and others on their team.

 

[patchick]

Quarterback economics are incredibly difficult. If you have a true elite quarterback, fine -- pay him what it takes. But when it comes to a QB who seems like a legitimate starter but not special, there's no good answer. If you lose him, you could be completely sunk. Even average starters don't grown on trees; look at how the Packers fell apart under their backup last year. But if your QB isn't good enough to elevate the whole offense, the $$$ he commands can limit how you build around him.

 

[Nikolai]

Quarterback economics are incredibly difficult. If you have a true elite quarterback, fine -- pay him what it takes. But when it comes to a QB who seems like a legitimate starter but not special, there's no good answer. If you lose him, you could be completely sunk. Even average starters don't grown on trees; look at how the Packers fell apart under their backup last year. But if your QB isn't good enough to elevate the whole offense, the $$$ he commands can limit how you build around him.

This is exactly why I hope we don't find ourselves in this position; it's not an easy place to exist.

The Dolphins might find themselves there with Tannehill; we could only hope.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I just cannot see giving $61M to a player whose last two offseason have consisted of sexual assault investigation, allegations of smoking weed, wearing another team’s hat, and doing body shots on South Beach.

Sexual assault yes...but those other things? Weed? Another teams hat? Shots on south beach? HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Kontradiction]

That's a pretty nice deal for an overrated quarterback that completely **** the bed in the NFCCG and likely cost his team a Super Bowl title.

 

[Kontradiction]

Paying Kaepernick that kind of money means the 49ers are going to have to take away money elsewhere. Good.

I was already going to be watching their cast-offs this year in and after TC as that team is deep and there might be some primo talent let go because of it. This will only make me continue to do that in the coming years.

 

[Brady6]

Sexual assault yes...but those other things? Weed? Another teams hat? Shots on south beach? HAHAHAHAHAHA

I have nothing against weed or shots personally but I'm not giving $61M to a college kid and that is what he acts like many times.

 

[Christiancat]

Congrats to Colin. Hopefully the 49ers will find a way to fit Willis, bowman,crabtree etc under the cap.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Davis is a better blocker than receiver. Touchdowns reflect more on his ability as a red zone receiver (which is substantial), but he's very inconsistent. In 1 in 4 games last season, he had 2 or fewer catches. He had 1 game over 100 yards. He was consistently a strong red zone target but he's pretty unremarkable besides that. He is a very good blocker, however. If he's in a second tier, it's because the tight end position is completely barren after Gronk and Graham.

Gore benefits from the aforementioned exceptional offensive line. Even running behind them, he only managed 4.1 yards per carry last season (though this was the lowest yards per carry of his career). I think Gore's better than, say, the vastly overrated Marshawn Lynch, but I also think he benefits from a good offensive line... and Kaepernick as his quarterback, for certain.

I dunno, I agree that Davis is an excellent blocker, but I think that his receiving skills are right on par with that. Graham is basically just a really big WR, so I have Gronk as far and away the best TE in the NFL, and Davis clearly at #2 (ahead of Witten and some other guys). You have to remember, for the majority of last season the 49ers had two legitimate receivers - Davis and Boldin, to the point that Davis was taking a bunch of WR snaps purely out of necessity. The fact that he *can* take snaps at WR really emphasizes how strong that element of his game is. The guy ran a sub-4.4 40 at the combine; he's freakish athletic.

As for the contract... it looks huge now, and I still have doubts that Kaepernick is as good as the 49ers think he is, but the results are there so far, and this could be one of those contracts that doesn't look nearly as bad 3 years from now if the cap keeps growing as projected. I can understand why they signed him to it, although it's definitely a gamble. I don't think it's as obviously a terrible move as a lot of the posters here seem to.

He also has an absurdly high ceiling--about on par with Newton. I doubt either one of them will reach that ceiling--few players ever do--and they'll probably both end up on a tier significantly below Luck.

 

[ausbacker]

I was already going to be watching their cast-offs this year in and after TC as that team is deep and there might be some primo talent let go because of it. This will only make me continue to do that in the coming years.

The 49ers are deep because the media says they're deep. The reality is they have a good roster with some highly credentialed young talent. That talent still has to step up and make plays.

 

[Kontradiction]

The 49ers are deep because the media says they're deep. The reality is they have a good roster with some highly credentialed young talent. That talent still has to step up and make plays.

I was talking high salaried to mid-level starters that should be of some interest to the Pats.

 

[The Scrizz]

I completely agree its a silly comparison, but some of your posts DO make those players seem much worse than they are.

I'll agree that Kaepernick's passing numbers should be a hell of a lot better than they are with his supporting cast, but it also needs to be reminded that the 9ers don't ask him to pass that often.

Only 7 players with over 150 pass attempts averaged more YPA than him, and he has one of the lowest number of pass attempts among QB's who played most of their games.

So they chose to give all of that money to a QB that they don't ask to pass that often. Eh, here's 61 million, don't get your arm sore passing too much.

I'd love to see a $ per pass attempt number.

 

[strngplyr]

So they chose to give all of that money to a QB that they don't ask to pass that often. Eh, here's 61 million, don't get your arm sore passing too much.

I'd love to see a $ per pass attempt number.

50,480 per attempt (per season), using last seasons numbers.

 

[Sticky Caulk]

This is great news for all teams outside of San Fransisco. Now we need to see D. Thomas and R. Wilson cash in. Those contracts are going to hurt. Cap flexibility can make a good team great until those cheap players need to be re-upped. Seattle I can see surviving and staying a decent contender. I have my doubts about Denver and San Fransisco.

I wonder which team will hit the draft lottery next..

 

[Kontradiction]

This is great news for all teams outside of San Fransisco. Now we need to see D. Thomas and R. Wilson cash in. Those contracts are going to hurt. Cap flexibility can make a good team great until those cheap players need to be re-upped. Seattle I can see surviving and staying a decent contender. I have my doubts about Denver and San Fransisco.

I wonder which team will hit the draft lottery next..

I'm not sure if it will hurt as much as you think. Don't forget the cap is supposed to keep rising in the next couple of years. With Kaepernick's contract, it's a relatively easy one for the 49ers to get out of if Harbaugh doesn't win the Super Bowl this season, get's fired, and Baalke wants to move away from Kaepernick.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I just cannot see giving $61M to a player whose last two offseason have consisted of sexual assault investigation, allegations of smoking weed, wearing another team’s hat, and doing body shots on South Beach.

I think that the 49ers will regret this, especially when they start losing the Willis, Bowman, Smith, and others on their team.

I don't know. Your damned if you do, damned if you don't with so called elite QBs nowadays. If they let him get away the fans and press would rip them. When they signed him it seems many ripped them. Kind of a no win.

But yeah, it is going to be interesting to see the roster turnaround due to the cap for the 49ers. Vernon Davis is just waiting to see what Jimmy Graham does with his contract and then the poop will hit the fan cuz you know it's going to be a huge contract.

 

[strngplyr]

I don't know. Your damned if you do, damned if you don't with so called elite QBs nowadays. If they let him get away the fans and press would rip them. When they signed him it seems many ripped them. Kind of a no win.

But yeah, it is going to be interesting to see the roster turnaround due to the cap for the 49ers. Vernon Davis is just waiting to see what Jimmy Graham does with his contract and then the poop will hit the fan cuz you know it's going to be a huge contract.

Really the only QB's worth the money are the ones who can look good no matter who is around them.

Rodgers
Brady
Manning


Brees

Can anyone else really be plugged into a system and play at a high level? Show me Kaep on another team, it'll be ugly I'd assume. We've seen how dependent guys like Rivers need to be on a certain group of players. Matt Ryan only became worth his money when White, Jones, and Gonzalez were all around him and healthy, take away some of those pieces and he becomes pretty average.

Romo has/had an elite core of pass catchers but is pretty inconsistent week to week. Eli has had some pretty damn good receivers and some above averages TE's come and go, lord only knows what he's going to give you each week, let alone each season.

Big Ben? He probably does the most with the often changing group of pass catchers surrounding him. Wilson is in a similar group IMO but the sample size is too small.

I'm not nearly as high on Luck as the rest of the world seems to be, but he's got Wayne, Hilton has become a beast, and just added Nicks, paired with one of his favorite tight ends from his college days, he's poised to make noise, or at least should. Everything is around him.

My whole point is that if you're going to pay a quarterback that much, he better be able to look damn good with whoever his supporting cast is, because that supporting cast is going to be changing every single season with all that money tied up, unless you sacrifice the other side of the ball (ie, detroit with Stafford, Megatron, and adding Tate on a multiyear deal, wheres the money left to add anyone worth mentioning to the other side of the ball).