(serious): Colin Kaepernick 6 years 110+ million, with 61 million guaranteed

[patsinthesnow]

Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter8m
Colin Kaepernick's 6-year deal is worth $110+ million, per sources. Heavy guarantees, too. Record guarantees.

Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet3 mins
To be specific, the Kaepernick 6-year extension includes $61M guaranteed, the highest ever.

 

[Rob0729]

Does PFF have him in their top 5 QBs now that Brady off their list?

Russell Wilson is a happy camper. His deal is going to be north of this.

 

[jah]

Bold prediction: this contract is going to make the 49ers the laughingstock of the NFL within 4 years (absolute maximum).

 

[varjao]

NFL.com is saying 126 Mi

 

[patsinthesnow]

Bold prediction: this contract is going to make the 49ers the laughingstock of the NFL within 4 years (absolute maximum).

Agreed. I think a good amount of others will too. IMO, this is the worst longterm contract in NFL history, passing Flacco.

Kaepernick has been blessed with a near 07 level offense his first two years (Crabtree/Davis/Gore, then Boldin added and now Johnson) and an elite OL. Despite that, he's a bottom 10 QB in terms of passing ability, throwing for 3,197 yards and 21 TDs with that lineup. He was bottom 5 in comp pct, yards, and below average in passing TDs.

 

[primetime]

Kaepernick is very good. You get a good QB, you need to pay him. That's just the reality.

 

[primetime]

Agreed. I think a good amount of others will too. IMO, this is the worst longterm contract in NFL history, just passing Flacco.

Kaepernick has been blessed with a near 07 level offense his first two years (Crabtree/Davis/Gore, then Boldin added and now Johnson) and an elite OL. Despite that, he's a bottom 10 QB in terms of passing ability, and threw for 3,197 yards with that lineup.

"Near 07 level" might be the most hilarious hyperbole I've ever read.

A completely healthy Crabtree would have been the 3rd, maybe 4th best receiver in 07, Vernon Davis is a better blocker than a receiver, Gore is merely fine, and Boldin's best days are far behind him. His OL is very good, you are correct on that.

Kaepernick makes a lot of things happen. Wilson is probably better, but I'd much rather have Kaepernick than Flacco.

 

[goheels22002]

Bold prediction: this contract is going to make the 49ers the laughingstock of the NFL within 4 years (absolute maximum).

The off-the-field stuff is the greatest risk with Kaepernick. I wonder what the claw-back clauses look like in the wake of uber-douchebag Aaron Hernandez. I bet there's language in there specifically about being unable to fulfill his commitment if arrested that is not boilerplate.

As far as on the field, Kaepernick is a much tougher and selective quarterback about running with the ball than RG3 who hasn't figured out how to keep from taking huge hits. RG3 came in with a superior arm, but I think Kaepernick's upside is much bigger.

 

[patsinthesnow]

"Near 07 level" might be the most hilarious hyperbole I've ever read.

A completely healthy Crabtree would have been the 3rd, maybe 4th best receiver in 07, Vernon Davis is a better blocker than a receiver, Gore is merely fine, and Boldin's best days are far behind him. His OL is very good, you are correct on that.

Kaepernick makes a lot of things happen. Wilson is probably better, but I'd much rather have Kaepernick than Flacco.

Crabtree is a top 10-15 WR. Davis would be near Gronk/Graham's level with Brady, Boldin is still a top 20 WR, and Gore has been a yearly probowler.

JMO, Wilson and Kaepernick shouldn't be in the same sentence. Wilson beat him in every passing category with a mediocre WR/TE core and a horrid right side OL.

 

[Nikolai]

He's good, but he's being grossly overpaid. This isn't as bad as the Flacco signing, but it's damned close.

I hope it never comes to it here that we're overpaying for average to above-average QB skills.

EDIT - Never mind. After some quick thought; the guaranteed money makes this worse than Flacco.

 

[Gronkandez]

This is the same guy who had to call a timeout on the first play of the 2nd half of a playoff game because he forgot to put on his arm band that had the plays on it. He also threw a horrible pick vs Sea and went long against Sherman when there was no real urgency to gamble at the time.

He has a cannon and may be the best running QB out there so they had to sign him but..... that kind of money for a guy who doesnt seem all that bright is scary.

 

[primetime]

Crabtree is a top 10-15 WR. Davis would be near Gronk/Graham's level with Brady, Boldin is still a top 20 WR, and Gore has been a yearly probowler.

I'm not saying Crabtree isn't good, but you're overrating every other player there. Gore is very reliable and consistent but he rushed for over 100 yards all of 3 times this season. Davis is up and down. And, notably, Boldin and Crabtree barely played together.

To compare that supporting cast to the second best WR of all-time in his prime, one of the best slot receivers ever, a top OL, and a host of solid supporting cast members like Faulk, Gaffney, and Stallworth... well, I think that's hyperbole.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

This is the same guy who had to call a timeout on the first play of the 2nd half of a playoff game because he forgot to put on his arm band that had the plays on it. He also threw a horrible pick vs Sea and went long against Sherman when there was no real urgency to gamble at the time.

He has a cannon and may be the best running QB out there so they had to sign him but..... that kind of money for a guy who doesnt seem all that bright is scary.

He's a big talent but I too am skeptical about his QB football IQ. Young QBs do do stupid things though, so we'll see.
My concern (not that I give a crap about SF and their cap) is that he is a talented runner which increases the probability of bad things happening to good people.

 

[Rob0729]

"Near 07 level" might be the most hilarious hyperbole I've ever read.

A completely healthy Crabtree would have been the 3rd, maybe 4th best receiver in 07, Vernon Davis is a better blocker than a receiver, Gore is merely fine, and Boldin's best days are far behind him. His OL is very good, you are correct on that.

Kaepernick makes a lot of things happen. Wilson is probably better, but I'd much rather have Kaepernick than Flacco.

I think both of the arguments for and against the 49ers having an Patriots 07 type of offense are going overboard to make your points. I think it is silly to say their offense is nearly as talented, but come on.

I don't think that that offense is nearly as talented, but Vernon Davis a better blocker than a receiver?!? I would put him on the second tier of TEs. He is not in the elite world like Gronk or Jimmy Graham, but he was 6th in receiving yards for a TE and second in receiving TDs.

Frank Gore is going on his third straight year of over 1100 yards (it is his first year of the three where he didn't get over 1200). He was 9th in rushing yards, second in rushing plays over 20 yards, and 6th in rushing TDs. That makes him a top back in the league.

 

[strngplyr]

I'm not saying Crabtree isn't good, but you're overrating every other player there. Gore is very reliable and consistent but he rushed for over 100 yards all of 3 times this season. Davis is up and down. And, notably, Boldin and Crabtree barely played together.

To compare that supporting cast to the second best WR of all-time in his prime, one of the best slot receivers ever, a top OL, and a host of solid supporting cast members like Faulk, Gaffney, and Stallworth... well, I think that's hyperbole.

I completely agree its a silly comparison, but some of your posts DO make those players seem much worse than they are.

I'll agree that Kaepernick's passing numbers should be a hell of a lot better than they are with his supporting cast, but it also needs to be reminded that the 9ers don't ask him to pass that often.

Only 7 players with over 150 pass attempts averaged more YPA than him, and he has one of the lowest number of pass attempts among QB's who played most of their games.

 

[chasa]

Wow, I'm surprised they had that kind of extra money just hanging around.

 

[varjao]

While I agree that this is overpaying, he's a talented QB very young and with a high ceiling. I think the package he brings to an offense is complete, he's a good passer, has a cannon arm, probably the best running QB and he's very athletic. Needs to work on his touch and football IQ but who doesn't?

I would rather stay with him than looking for another option, 49ers stayed a long time in mediocrity, when you find a franchise QB these days, you gotta make an effort to keep him.

 

[chasa]

interesting only a 12 million dollar signing bonus.

 

[Nikolai]

interesting only a 12 million dollar signing bonus.

If they have a 49ers version of Miguel out there, I imagine he's going to need a drink after he works up the cap hits.

 

[primetime]

I think both of the arguments for and against the 49ers having an Patriots 07 type of offense are going overboard to make your points. I think it is silly to say their offense is nearly as talented, but come on.

I don't think that that offense is nearly as talented, but Vernon Davis a better blocker than a receiver?!? I would put him on the second tier of TEs. He is not in the elite world like Gronk or Jimmy Graham, but he was 6th in receiving yards for a TE and second in receiving TDs.

Frank Gore is going on his third straight year of over 1100 yards (it is his first year of the three where he didn't get over 1200). He was 9th in rushing yards, second in rushing plays over 20 yards, and 6th in rushing TDs. That makes him a top back in the league.

Davis is a better blocker than receiver. Touchdowns reflect more on his ability as a red zone receiver (which is substantial), but he's very inconsistent. In 1 in 4 games last season, he had 2 or fewer catches. He had 1 game over 100 yards. He was consistently a strong red zone target but he's pretty unremarkable besides that. He is a very good blocker, however. If he's in a second tier, it's because the tight end position is completely barren after Gronk and Graham.

Gore benefits from the aforementioned exceptional offensive line. Even running behind them, he only managed 4.1 yards per carry last season (though this was the lowest yards per carry of his career). I think Gore's better than, say, the vastly overrated Marshawn Lynch, but I also think he benefits from a good offensive line... and Kaepernick as his quarterback, for certain.