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While I admit that is an intelligent highly scientific scheme its far to Robotic. Backup RB depth b4 a much needed starting legit playmaking WR. Are you kidding? RBs r a dime a dozen. Furthermore if the starting WRs are feared and respected and the OLine can compete man up. RB will take care of itself. Dominant OLine and feared playmakers and I'll get a 4th or 6th round RB to rush for 1500 yards. Bryce Brown,a talented Rb just went for a 7th rounder.

BTW I like Housler. Big potential platogetherh Tom Brady. I also like a HEALTHY returned to form Finley. Mike Williams would have been nice to pair with Dobson. I like Dobson a lot. Its just at this stage he isn't the MAN who can suck up double coverage and still kick butt. Even if he ever is that guy means little now. He will be awesome as part of a duo for now.

I would prefer to give up a #2 draft pick than Dobson. He and Andre would be lethal together. There's Noway in HE!! They want Amendola as part of that trade. They already have dead cap space when Johnson leaves. Amendola at his overpaid price as psrt of a deal would make thebackuph. For taking on Johnsons cap hit while not having his production will take some compensation. Mallet and a #2 for starters while a young cheap potential playmaker would entice them such as Boyce and Thompkins. Most likely Boyce. I would give up both over Dobson. The #2 pick is necessary, any team would laugh at anything less.

A #2 isn't giving up much. Would prefer getting Johnson than Tavon or a Cunningham or a backup qb or RB. I liked this draft as a whole Loved Easley even with the risk. Liked OLine picks although I liked Antonio Richardson over Fleming, unless Fleming is projected to Guard. Where his power at 6'5 330 with decent athleticism would stand out I really like Zach Moore. More raw ability than 2nd rounder Kony Early. BUT obviously a wr was needed. I like idea trading up for Marquise Lee. If We were really that high on GP we could have traded Mallet for a #3 then traded a future #2 and Boyce with the #3 we got for Mallet to select Garappolo. That's if we really see Jimmy as our futuQB starter. Otherwise he was just a backup QB with no major confidence as a future franchise QB. Or we could have traded up couple spots for Paul Richardson or Allen Robinson then traded Mallet for Texans #3 draft pick along with future #2 or #3 to land GP. That is only if we are truly that high on JG being anything nearly similar to Manning's successor Andrew Luck. Which personally I do.

With that said,most fans would have been happy with landing a legit feared WR like Richardson,Robinson,or Marty Bryant as well through some maneuvering. Bryant would have been the cheapest and most easy to obtain. It would of cost us backup RB white at most. A small price for a high ceiling WR.

Could have traded Mallet to gain a pick,then maneuvered to still get those OLineman,Zach Moore,Jimmy Garappolo and a Wr talent. Whether Bryant in round4 over White or maneuvering to acquire them guys along with Lee or Richardson or Robinson to pair with Dobson. Jimmy Johnson who many consider is very likely the greatest Coach/GM ever, did lots of maneuvering, to get the particular players he needed and he felt would become standouts and dominate like he required of his players. Rather than stand put and accept whatever trash fell to him.


You may not realize this but i think that people who actually believe they can do a better job than Belichick are idiots. You can play make believe all you want but I really have no interest in it. Belichick operates at a major disadvantage structurally and has for over a decade and still puts one of the best teams in football out there every season and the idea that you can build a better roster is so far beyond absurd as to be meaningless.
 
No, they said it afterwards when they were very mediocre, and it seems to have been proven correct when Jimmy Johnson quickly came in and built a dynasty, one that would have been fare more grand had Jerry Jones not screwed things up by belittling and alienating Johnson.


Then get back to us when they are mediocre for e long stretch. Trying to comapre belichick to Shula and Landry when he is still at the top of the game is irrelevant.
 
Then get back to us when they are mediocre for e long stretch. Trying to comapre belichick to Shula and Landry when he is still at the top of the game is irrelevant.

The last SB Landry won was in 1977, 1988 was the his last season.
 
The last SB Landry won was in 1977, 1988 was the his last season.


That's a completely ridiculous analogy and demonstrates just how desperate you are to create any equivalence. Landry's Cowboy teams went 7-9, 7-9, and 3-13 his last 3 seasons whereas Belichick has been to the conference championship each of the last 3 years and Super Bowl. They have been the most successful team in football and have showed no signs at all of dropping off so trying to equate that to older coaches whose teams are failing is garbage.
 
The last SB Landry won was in 1977, 1988 was the his last season.

You must believe that Belichick has put together a team that is going to go 1-15 because that's what the Cowboys did the year after Landry left, and from your posts it sounds like you believe Belichick should have been fired, otherwise your analogy is even more bizare than it is in reality.
 
You must believe that Belichick has put together a team that is going to go 1-15 because that's what the Cowboys did the year after Landry left, and from your posts it sounds like you believe Belichick should have been fired, otherwise your analogy is even more bizare than it is in reality.

What did they do in the 5yrs following Landy's departure?
 
When has the winningest coach in the league ever been fired?

When has a coach who has gone 12-4, 12-4, 13-3 and 14-2 in his last 4 years been fired?
 
What did they do in the 5yrs following Landy's departure?

What the hell is your point?

seriously, this is truly idiotic crap you are posting.


Any Patriot fan who thinks Belichick should be fired is a total moron.
 
When has the winningest coach in the league ever been fired?

When has a coach who has gone 12-4, 12-4, 13-3 and 14-2 in his last 4 years been fired?

Never, and they never will be. The only people who would think they should don't know anything at all about football.
 
Landry or Noll would have done much better in the 80s had they drafted Marino. Jimmy Johnson was superior Coach/Gm than Bill Bellichick. Where would Bills teams have been without Brady when the Superbowl stars became past their prime.
 
It should be pointed out that the other great coaches mentioned coached before salary cap and wild free agency.

The 4-time SB champion Steelers had essentially the same team throughout their dynasty. The 49'ers had a payroll far beyond anyone else in the league in the Montana/Young years. Patriots lose a guy like Seymore to the cap, while the Steelers retire Joe Green.

You can't compare the coaches when one can keep talent forevermore. I'll take BB, hands down. No one is close to him or the Pats organization in THIS ERA.
 
A legit playmaker helps others get open including Gronk. Could you imagine how unstoppable Gronk would be if we had a WR defenses feared any. Tom Brady would take advantage of the space a wr would create for all our other mediocre pass catchers and spread the ball around.
 
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We have to see what Pete Carroll does next couple years. His drafting has been good and he continues to upgrade to repeat including WR position. Jimmy Johnson built a very dominant team. If he wanted to be a GM again,that would at least spark interest. Not saying it would happen. But most give him the nod over Bill as a bettet coach/GM
 
What the hell is your point?

seriously, this is truly idiotic crap you are posting.


Any Patriot fan who thinks Belichick should be fired is a total moron.

I never said BB should be fired, just the game actually odes pass some people by and a franchise might very well benefit from parting ways with their long-time coach, no more, no less.
 
I never said BB should be fired, just the game actually odes pass some people by and a franchise might very well benefit from parting ways with their long-time coach, no more, no less.

Oh, so you aren't saying that he should be fired you are just saying that they should move on from him.

I am starting to think you are either a troll or that your IQ is under 70.
 
We have to see what Pete Carroll does next couple years. His drafting has been good and he continues to upgrade to repeat including WR position. Jimmy Johnson built a very dominant team. If he wanted to be a GM again,that would at least spark interest. Not saying it would happen. But most give him the nod over Bill as a bettet coach/GM


What are you talking about? Pete Caroll has nothing to do with the Patriots and there is zero chance Jimmy Johnson is going to replace Bill Belichick.

I am starting to think you guys are on acid.
 
I think the problem is that we are making and judging Bill's decisions with the benefit of hindsight that he cannot have when making them. I think he is doing about as good of a job as can be done.
 
Oh, so you aren't saying that he should be fired you are just saying that they should move on from him.

I am starting to think you are either a troll or that your IQ is under 70.

Yet again, I didn't mention BB, that's all projection on your part.
 
Then get back to us when they are mediocre for e long stretch. Trying to comapre belichick to Shula and Landry when he is still at the top of the game is irrelevant.



No, they said it afterwards when they were very mediocre, and it seems to have been proven correct when Jimmy Johnson quickly came in and built a dynasty, one that would have been fare more grand had Jerry Jones not screwed things up by belittling and alienating Johnson.


Flat out lie, you were clearly talking about Belichick and you know it. You want to play troll go ahead, i'm not interested in that crap.


Yet again, I didn't mention BB, that's all projection on your part.
 
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