BJGE back in the fold assuming he is cut?

[patchick]

Why anyone wouldn't prefer him to Bolden is mind boggling.

I'm not high on either of them, but IMO it's hardly "mind-boggling" that anybody would prefer the player with the career 4.9 ypc (BB) to the player with the 3.9 ypc (BJGE)!

In fact, if you want a mind-boggling stat consider that Bolden, who has always been buried low on the depth chart, actually averages more receiving yards per game than Green-Ellis.

 

[SalemPats]

I was going to say no right away, but the guy never fumbles and can block. If there is an injury or something I could see BB bringing him back

 

[primetime]

I'm not high on either of them, but IMO it's hardly "mind-boggling" that anybody would prefer the player with the career 4.9 ypc (BB) to the player with the 3.9 ypc (BJGE)!

In fact, if you want a mind-boggling stat consider that Bolden, who has always been buried low on the depth chart, actually averages more receiving yards per game than Green-Ellis.

Well, that's an issue of sample size. Green-Ellis has nearly ten times the number of career carries as Bolden, and that BJGE has gotten regular carries while Bolden does not speaks to something that goes beyond simple averages.

The receiving yards thing is a good point, though. Bolden is more useful in the passing game (though he's not Faulk, Woodhead, Vereen, or hopefully White). The Patriots already have a sledgehammer back who doesn't contribute in the passing game in Ridley, and he's a better player with more talent than Green-Ellis. Bolden is more well-rounded, though he's just a guy and could easily be beaten out by a UDFA.

I was going to say no right away, but the guy never fumbles and can block. If there is an injury or something I could see BB bringing him back

He's fumbled 5 times in the last two seasons. The days of Green-Ellis never fumbling are over.

 

[PP2]

Not sure why we would bring BJGE back when we already have his skill sets in Bolden. Bolden also excels in ball security; he has zero fumbles.

It has always puzzled me why Bolden is low on the depth chart. It has to be an attitude/motivation issue.

 

[Rob0729]

I always found BJGE overrated on this board. For the veteran's minimum, I would consider bringing him back. But I don't think he is much more than a guy who can replace Bolden on the roster.

 

[Rob0729]

Not sure why we would bring BJGE back when we already have his skill sets in Bolden. Bolden also excels in ball security; he has zero fumbles.

It has always puzzled me why Bolden is low on the depth chart. It has to be an attitude/motivation issue.

BJGE had 5 fumbles over the last two years. Which is two less than Ridley over the same period of time.

 

[TruthSeeker]

As much as I like Lawfirm, let's see what Stephen Houston has to offer instead. 6'0" 230lbs RB who's worst average YPC in College was 4.7 (and that season he got 12 TDs, his best year in that regard).

He also seems to offer something as a receiver, too.

Also ran a 4.45 I believe, so he has size AND speed.

 

[Jrik83]

BJGE was always a poor man's Ridley whose special skill was that he never fumbled. Now he's a destitute man's Ridley with no special skills.

Bolden's roster spot is the only one in any potential danger, and I don't think Green-Ellis could threaten it.

I always actually thought of him as the polar opposite of Ridley. He wasn't going to tear off many big runs, but you knew he was going to keep the ball secure and give you at least a few yards. However, sadly your current designation for him is pretty spot on.

 

[patchick]

Well, that's an issue of sample size. Green-Ellis has nearly ten times the number of career carries as Bolden, and that BJGE has gotten regular carries while Bolden does not speaks to something that goes beyond simple averages.

Oh, absolutely. I'm not suggesting that Bolden's 4.9 ypc would hold up if he were a lead back. (If so, I wouldn't be looking for an upgrade!)

My point was just that it's easy to see why you'd opt to take your chances with Bolden rather than the proven mediocrity of Green-Ellis. Frankly, if Lawfirm weren't an ex-Patriot nobody here would give him a thought as a potential acquisition.

 

[PP2]

BJGE had 5 fumbles over the last two years. Which is two less than Ridley over the same period of time.

And Bolden has zero, and we already have him, so I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

 

[primetime]

I always actually thought of him as the polar opposite of Ridley. He wasn't going to tear off many big runs, but you knew he was going to keep the ball secure and give you at least a few yards. However, sadly your current designation for him is pretty spot on.

Both are plunging, physical backs who take the ball up the middle and fall forward when they're being tackled and do very well at the goal line. Ridley, however, has elusiveness and an extra gear in the open field that Green-Ellis lacks. Neither contributes much in the passing game. Ridley's lack of ball security, while slightly overplayed in my estimation, is his one weakness, while it used to be Green-Ellis' special strength but those days are gone.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Pass. BJGE would be a backup replacing a core special teamer, whoever that ends up being.

 

[Rob0729]

And Bolden has zero, and we already have him, so I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

Sorry, I misread your original post.

But I think Bolden is a JAG. I wouldn't be upset if BJGE replaced him or someone else did.

 

[goheels22002]

Bennie! Bringing him back as a veteran back-up makes great sense, especially since he's a better-than-average blocking back A key reason why replaced Maroney was because he was quick to the hole and because he could read pass rushes and chip or block to give Brady more time. He had a bigger role in the passing game in Cincinnati two years ago before Bernard showed up, so there's some pass catching skill there as well.

He's a plug n' play running back for the Pats. I'd give him a shot if a roster slot is there. Definitely a better option than Ronnie Brown.

 

[varjao]

Bolden is still living by that game against the Bills a couple of years ago, that and maybe another one or two games.

Definitely an upgrade is in order, Vereen, Fumbley, White and Lawfirm, I like that.

 

[Brady6]

As much as I like Lawfirm, let's see what Stephen Houston has to offer instead. 6'0" 230lbs RB who's worst average YPC in College was 4.7 (and that season he got 12 TDs, his best year in that regard).

He also seems to offer something as a receiver, too.

Houston’s athletic metrics are special. Check this out.

Stephen Houston
-Height: 5103
-Weight: 225
-40 Yard Dash: 4.52
-20 Yard Dash: 2.61
-10 Yard Dash: 1.58
-225 Lb. Bench Reps: 24
-Vertical Jump: 40
-Broad Jump: 11'00"
-20 Yard Shuttle: 4.23
-3-Cone Drill: 7.07

Adrian Peterson
-Height: 6014
-Weight: 217
-40 Yard Dash: 4.40
-20 Yard Dash: 2.58
-10 Yard Dash: 1.53
-225 Lb. Bench Reps: N/A
-Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
-Broad Jump: 10'07"
-20 Yard Shuttle: 4.40
-3-Cone Drill: 7.09

With the exception of the 40, 20, and 10 Houston topped Adrian Peterson (who is considered a freak) in every metric. He is the most physically gift RB to come out of college this year.

 

[Brady6]

If BJGE is cut, he is likely to remain unsigned until into the 2014 season, and picked up if a team suffers an injury, he would fall into the Michael Bush, Ronnie Brown, and Felix Jones category.

 

[primetime]

Houston’s athletic metrics are special. Check this out.

Stephen Houston
-Height: 5103
-Weight: 225
-40 Yard Dash: 4.52
-20 Yard Dash: 2.61
-10 Yard Dash: 1.58
-225 Lb. Bench Reps: 24
-Vertical Jump: 40
-Broad Jump: 11'00"
-20 Yard Shuttle: 4.23
-3-Cone Drill: 7.07

Adrian Peterson
-Height: 6014
-Weight: 217
-40 Yard Dash: 4.40
-20 Yard Dash: 2.58
-10 Yard Dash: 1.53
-225 Lb. Bench Reps: N/A
-Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
-Broad Jump: 10'07"
-20 Yard Shuttle: 4.40
-3-Cone Drill: 7.09

With the exception of the 40, 20, and 10 Houston topped Adrian Peterson (who is considered a freak) in every metric. He is the most physically gift RB to come out of college this year.

Can he catch?

 

[Brady6]

Bolden is still living by that game against the Bills a couple of years ago, that and maybe another one or two games.

Definitely an upgrade is in order, Vereen, Fumbley, White and Lawfirm, I like that.

Tough crowd, Bolden had 423 total yards and 3 total touchdowns in 12 games last season; he was our fourth string RB. That is solid.

Brandon Bolden is not a great player but at this juncture he is a better player than BJGE.

 

[Brady6]

Can he catch?

He had 65 receptions for 658 yards and 4 touchdowns in 3 years at Indiana. So I would assume he is ok, I honestly do not know a ton about him I just looked at his athletic metrics and I was really impressed.