Steelers match offer sheet retain RFA WR Emmanuel Sanders

[Brady6]

Steelers match offer sheet retain Sanders

Since he has you on ignore...... He won't see your response :bricks:

I know but he can see it now and I knew I could always rely on one of you to quote it for me.

 

[JackBauer]

in all fairness this was his first decent thread topic to start

Although the title itself is a bit ESL...

 

[Blizzzard]

I know but he can see it now and I knew I could always rely on one of you to quote it for me.

You're welcome

 

[Chopblock CB]

Ok, well it sounds like you may have a personal grudge against him.

Either way it is too bad that he acts that way. Lets get back to winning football games. Can BL help as the price the pats are paying? That is all that matters. Dennard, and Telib arent model citizens either. These guys are athletes, not politicians.

Brandon Marshall is BPD. Are you saying you wouldnt want him on the team?

Noo..what I was doing was confirming that he is a cancer in the locker room...and you know...no one was going to say boo according to the Patriot way...My premise on lloyd from a player perspective is no great loss...75 catches...not much YAC...scared to take a hit....his catches can be replaced....and he still hasn't mastered the off shoulder catch that Brady likes to throw and is effective if executed properly....

 

[andrewgarrr]

Noo..what I was doing was confirming that he is a cancer in the locker room...and you know...no one was going to say boo according to the Patriot way...My premise on lloyd from a player perspective is no great loss...75 catches...not much YAC...scared to take a hit....his catches can be replaced....and he still hasn't mastered the off shoulder catch that Brady likes to throw and is effective if executed properly....

Why.. do... people... on... this... board... type... this... way...

 

[Jangles]

Oh well

Guess we could always ask Jerry Rice what his plans are.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

Oh well

Guess we could always ask Jerry Rice what his plans are.

Or Troy...Bingo should be good, and rested.
(Sorry andrewgarr)

 

[Bruins29]

Noo..what I was doing was confirming that he is a cancer in the locker room...and you know...no one was going to say boo according to the Patriot way...My premise on lloyd from a player perspective is no great loss...75 catches...not much YAC...scared to take a hit....his catches can be replaced....and he still hasn't mastered the off shoulder catch that Brady likes to throw and is effective if executed properly....

I agree with all that except the first sentence. You say that your interactions with him "confirm" he is a cancer in the locker room.

Is that how you were confirming it? Or do you have actual "conformation" that he was a cancer in the actual locker room...I mean more than what some articles said about him being a strange dude etc...

I dont equate being a wierdo and strange guy and not social/friendly to cancer? I dont recall any article saying such unless I missed it. I dont think BL ever reached "cancer" level.

I also dont think getting him back even cheaper is going to do much to help is attitude, but seeing that no other team has gone after him might make him realize this is as good as it is going to get.

 

[Jangles]

I like Sanders but I'm a bit relieved; I wasn't huge on spending a 3rd round pick on a one year deal (no I don't buy that they had a long term deal worked out).

Instead that third may be used for a 1-4 year deal on a future insurance salesmen who played WR in college but ultimately failed in the NFL.

 

[Frezo]

Why.. do... people... on... this... board... type... this... way...

Well it's like this...

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

That's disappointing. Steeler fans are pretty disappointed too from what I've read most think he's going to bounce in a year anyways. Steelers gotta be such reverend no-fun's

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

That's disappointing. Steeler fans are pretty disappointed too from what I've read most think he's going to bounce in a year anyways. Steelers gotta be such reverend no-fun's

I don't know about disappointing, if anything it's funny. If it were any other team that signed him to an offer sheet the steelers would have let him walk. This, was a great mind **** by BB imo.
Pittsburgh is obsessed with the Pats, and are terrified to be made to look like fools by them. Only this time i think they out thought themselves by matching.
Just enjoy it. The Pats got another one over on them.

I'm sure Sanders is less than thrilled with this seeing as Brown, the media, and fans pretty much threw him under the bus. This event should bring great unity in their already fractured locker room.

 

[SVN]

Thing is...you have a better chance at a guy like Sanders paying off becasue you know what his skill set is in the NFL..where as drafting a WR..any coach will tell you..it is a very different transition from college systems to NFL systems and you never know how they will react unless it's a guy like Calvin Johnson

Agree with you but from my perspective a WR like sanders is not the missing link to get over the top. Maybe Iam misjudging his talents but many a wr who have been signed via free agency have also failed in our system except moss and welker. So I wasnt averse to giving the pick to the steelers ,just wasnt excited about the player.

 

[MossWelkowski]

We now have healthy and physical receivers! Yay!

Hernandez
Edelman
Amendola
Gronk

Hurt hurt hurt hurt

Say what you want about Lloyd.. At least he was on the field every game

 

[lillloyd]

I don't know about disappointing, if anything it's funny. If it were any other team that signed him to an offer sheet the steelers would have let him walk. This, was a great mind **** by BB imo.
Pittsburgh is obsessed with the Pats, and are terrified to be made to look like fools by them. Only this time i think they out thought themselves by matching.
Just enjoy it. The Pats got another one over on the squeelers.

I'm sure Sanders is less than thrilled with this seeing as Brown, the media, and fans pretty much threw him under the bus. This event should bring great unity in their already fractured locker room.

This doesn't make any sense--what do the Steelers care who made the offer? Whether its the Pats or the Browns, all that matters to Pitt is whether they're okay with trotting out Jericho Cotchery as their WR2 for a year while a 3rd round draft pick develops. The fact that the Pats made the offer has no bearing on Pitt's decisions re/ WR depth and salary cap implications (other than the fact that the Pats draft a bit lower than other teams).

Personally I feel like there were merits to both sides of the argument for Pitt, which basically means I'm ambivalent about us keeping him. Basically we're spending an extra million to keep the WR2 seat warm for a 2013 draft pick (I still think we'll take a WR high this April), who will likely take over in 2014. I don't think we'll re-sign Sanders to a longer deal (he's been too injury-prone to sign to large dollars now, and if he does bust out he'll price himself out of Pittsburgh), so this is probably a rental.

At the end of the day this was probably all much ado about...well maybe not "nothing", but certainly the stakes maybe didn't warrant the attention it received. Sanders is a nice WR but unlikely to blossom into a perennial Pro Bowler; the way the Pats structured the offer sheet didn't amount to enough dollars (an extra $1.2m for Pitt) to really matter a ton relative to the Steelers' cap; and the 3rd rd pick, is low enough to not be a guarantee of a good player.

And who knows? Maybe Sanders will join NE in *2014*, have a big year, and get us a compensatory 3rd rounder due to FA, so that everyone eventually gets what they want

It was fun hanging out with you guys for a bit to discuss the Sanders thing; good luck later this month in the draft! --lillloyd

 

[SteelersCanada]

Pittsburgh is obsessed with the Pats, and are terrified to be made to look like fools by them. Only this time i think they out thought themselves by matching.

I'm glad other people are calling you on this so I didn't have to. I don't know if this is a rationalization because you lost him, but this doesn't make any sense. We don't play in the same division and while there's a playoff rivalry there, we don't play each other often enough for Mike and friends to be "obsessed with the Patriots".

We were terrified to look foolish? I just thought we were resigning a receiver because we lost Wallace. Silly me, I should've realized there were ulterior motives at play.

 

[strngplyr]

Skimming the thread I see everyone trying to replace the "loss" of Sanders with another FA WR, personally, I'd like to see the Sanders money be allocated to Abraham and double dip in the draft and hopefully be set for the future.

Woods and Rogers would be a nice grab in some combination of the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rounds. Two big physical receivers who can both threaten the outside, and while I know less about Rogers, Woods is known for running precise routes and just being consistent.

Possibly a trade back from the first and use a mid-early second on Woods and the 3rd we saved on Rogers.

 

[tonyto3690]

I hope I"m not the only one who is happy we didn't get him.

Small, injury prone, inconsistent, often drops the important 3rd down balls, can't beat the press coverage.

He's basically everything we wanted to get away from when we dumped Lloyd/Welker

 

[SteelersCanada]

I hope I"m not the only one who is happy we didn't get him.

Small, injury prone, inconsistent, often drops the important 3rd down balls, can't beat the press coverage.

He's basically everything we wanted to get away from when we dumped Lloyd/Welker

I honestly don't know how you came to any of these conclusions. He wasn't our third down receiver and he was able to shake defenders consistently but wasn't the first, second or third reads in our offense. It's hard to get the ball when Wallace, Brown and Miller are ahead of you in the pecking order and at least one of those guys is open somewhere. That, combined with Haley's quick strike offense and utilization of Miller made it impossible for Sanders to get a whole lot of attention.

I won't speak to your offensive problems with Lloyd or Welker because you'd know more about that than I would but I can tell you, I'm not sure how you came to that regarding Sanders.

 

[JackBauer]

I hope I"m not the only one who is happy we didn't get him.

Small, injury prone, inconsistent, often drops the important 3rd down balls, can't beat the press coverage.

He's basically everything we wanted to get away from when we dumped Lloyd/Welker

It's fine that you don't like him, but please, for the love of God, stop making things up.