Name one suprise cut

[Armchair Quarterback]

suprise cut -- wes welker. if the other receivers show alot, then wes's franchise tag salary becomes too high (assuming he signs tag and not long term deal).

most of the ppl mentioned in this thread wouldn't be suprises.

If the Patriots weren't prepared to pay the franchise price for Welker, they probably wouldn't of have applied the franchise tag to him.

And if he signs the franchise tag, that salary is guaranteed.

 

[Dragda]

Trevor Scott would be my guess

 

[37Harrison]

Branch....

 

[doesntmatter1]

If you are suggesting the cuts would come from this list, I can understand. If you are saying these are the cuts, how do we field a DL?

Curious why you cut Gallery if you have never seen him play, and why you quesiton whether a starting caliber C is better than a guy who has barely seen the field.

We got by without pryor or brace for awhile anyway and we could always bring in a veteran similar to warren from other teams cuts. I wouldn't be surprised if marcus forston beats him out either. Brace and pryor's situation is similar to wilhite and butler in how they failed to develop and you just got to cut your losses.

I called out Gallery because he is widely considered a bust and if the seahawks didn't fight to keep him with their average line then how am i suppose to have faith in him. lol.

Lastly, I have been against koppen for awhile. I suggested we move on without him last year, and then he broke his leg and things moved on just as smoothly as I thought they would. Brady may have comfort with him but i truly believe that both connoly and wendell are better than him and would like to see one of the young guys develop instead of holding onto a over the hill center.

 

[supafly]

Agree with you point, but disagree that BB would have to keep him and put him in regular season games to know what he would give the team.

Valid point about not necessarily needing to see regular season/live game reps, but I just don't think that Vereen has had the opportunity to show much of anything to this particular point; mainly due to his somewhat nagging early injury and limited knowledge of the playbook.

 

[patchick]

he's someone who I think gets a little overhyped by fans too, he only played 22% of the snaps last year. He's good depth, and may even improve so it's not like I hate him but there just has to be one or two tough decisions made.

IMO "only 22% of the snaps" is misleading for Fletcher, given that he missed almost half the season with a broken hand then returned still wearing a cast.

 

[supafly]

We got by without pryor or brace for awhile anyway and we could always bring in a veteran similar to warren from other teams cuts. I wouldn't be surprised if marcus forston beats him out either. Brace and pryor's situation is similar to wilhite and butler in how they failed to develop and you just got to cut your losses.

I'm not sure that comparing Pryor to Butler or Wilhite is entirely fair, since he has been injured. Although injuries are unfortunate, they are sometimes part of the game. That said, I would respectfully disagree that 'he has failed to develop.'

I don't think he has beaten the injury bug enough to have had much of a chance to flourish or fail here.

He may get cut, but I don't agree that it has been due to 'failing to develop.'

 

[supafly]

suprise cut -- wes welker. if the other receivers show alot, then wes's franchise tag salary becomes too high (assuming he signs tag and not long term deal).

Welker "CUT?"

Jeez, I would've thought that we'd at least have been able to get a 2nd rounder or so for him.

 

[mayoclinic]

The vast majority of players under contract are in a dogfight for a roster position, so I wouldn't call any of them "surprise cuts". There's only about 15-20 players who seem secure - entrenched starters and high round draft picks like Tom Brady, Vince Wilfork, Devin McCourty, Jerod Mayo, Rob Grownkowski, Logan Mankins, Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, etc.

Out of those guys, I can really only think of one who could reasonably be a surprise cut: Stephen Gostkowski. Former pro bowl kicker signed to a long term deal. But he was injured, and the Pats signed Chris Koepplin in the offseason, who looked good for them last year in training camp.

Do I really expect Ghost to be cut? Of course not. But that's why it would be a "surprise".

 

[DaBruinz]

Its funny that Fletcher and Cunningham arrived together, and Cunningham was an immediate starter who was displaced due to scheme change and injury in year 2, and Fletchers playing time of 22% of the snaps was his highest, mostly due to Spikes missing many games, and the general perception of the board is that Cunnigham is a failure and Fletcher is a hidden gem.
Lets not forget we played Tracy White at LB in the SB instead of Fletcher.

Fletcher also missed a significant amount of time. Fletcher will get snaps in the sub packages because of his ability to cover. If he can't cover, then he really doesn't offer anything except an extremely high level work ethic..

 

[DaBruinz]

What's a surprise cut?

I can see Koppen/Wendell getting cut...I seriously doubt we have the rash of injuries at center again.

I can see G. Warren getting cut, or Ron Brace, or Fletcher, or Lockett.

Frankly, any one of the WRs other than Welker/Gaffney/Lloyd/Edelman getting cut would not surprise me. Edelman would surprise me not because we need him at WR, but because the only other proven PR on our team, Welker, is unsigned and might hold out for a while.

One surprise for me would be any of the three specialists, but I'm not predicting any movement there.

So overall, I don't anticipate any 'surprises'.

Lockett is not currently on the team. He is a UFA. Did you mean Barrett?

 

[jah]

Trevor Scott would be my guess

Yeah. I think this is very possible. I don't know how many spots they're going to reserve for the DE/OLB role, but if they go with 3 or 4 it's going to be tough. I've never heard anything negative about M. Carter, and Cunningham probably deserves one more shot, so the three way competition between Scott, Carter, and Cunningham could be more interesting later than it looks now.

 

[Marqui]

The vast majority of players under contract are in a dogfight for a roster position, so I wouldn't call any of them "surprise cuts". There's only about 15-20 players who seem secure - entrenched starters and high round draft picks like Tom Brady, Vince Wilfork, Devin McCourty, Jerod Mayo, Rob Grownkowski, Logan Mankins, Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, etc.

Out of those guys, I can really only think of one who could reasonably be a surprise cut: Stephen Gostkowski. Former pro bowl kicker signed to a long term deal. But he was injured, and the Pats signed Chris Koepplin in the offseason, who looked good for them last year in training camp.

Do I really expect Ghost to be cut? Of course not. But that's why it would be a "surprise".

I don't get it, why would they cut Gostkowski for an injury that happened 2 years ago?

 

[DaBruinz]

I've been a lurker and not a poster the last few weeks but this is a interesting topic.

Surprise Cuts
Hoyer traded
Branch retires
Faulk retires
Woodhead cut
Brace Cut
Pryor cut
Warren cut
White cut
Allen cut
Fiametta cut
Gallery cut
Ocho Cinco cut

My surprise makes the team Ebner replaces white on special teams
Bolden replaces Woodheads roster spot
Gonzalez replaces Branch
Ebert replaces
ocho cinco
Malcolm Williams takes Allen spot
Markell Carter makes the final 53
Jermaine Cunningham makes the 53 and has a solid year

Umm.. Gallery isn't going to be cut. He's the starting LG in the very likely event that Mankins starts the season on the PUP. At training camp, Mankins will only be 5 months post op. He's not like Welker who was at 7 months post op when TC rolled around and at 8.5 when the season rolled around.

Bolden and Woodhead are two different kinds of running backs. Bolden is a North/South runner while Woodhead is a scat back..

Not sure how Will Allen, who is on a 1 year deal, would be a surprise cut.

Pryor would be a surprise cut, I'll give you that.

 

[RayClay]

This may be a surprise to some, but I don't see Danny Woodhead on the team any longer.
I like him as a story line etc... But, he comes up small in the playoffs. Gets his bell rung easily as well.
:bricks:

Thought i'd get away clean. It's the obvious answer. If we can't do better some year, we aren't trying.

Feel like I just shot ole yeller though.:cry2:

 

[SaCaCh]

Hoyer if Mallet shows anything. I don't think BB wants to waste a spot on a 3rd QB for two years in a row and is currently trying to trade Hoyer and if there is no takers he will cut him.

 

[DaBruinz]

suprise cut -- wes welker. if the other receivers show alot, then wes's franchise tag salary becomes too high (assuming he signs tag and not long term deal).

most of the ppl mentioned in this thread wouldn't be suprises.

You do realize that it makes absolutely no sense to cut Welker because the tag is Guaranteed.. In other words, we'd be paying Welker whether he was on the team or not. So it saves nothing.

If Welker signs just the tag, he's hear for the year.. Plain and simple..

 

[supafly]

Umm.. Gallery isn't going to be cut. He's the starting LG in the very likely event that Mankins starts the season on the PUP.

I certainly agree with the thought that Gallery may offer an important depth and even starting role here, so I would not imagine him getting cut. Besides that, Belichick has gone on record before stating that he thinks he is a good offensive lineman, so I will defer to his talent evaluations and trust in his thoughts.

One thing to keep an eye on though..there was some talk (not sure if it has any merit or not) of Gallery actually being a tackle here. As AndyJohnson correctly pointed out, he does have some very good size at 6'7" so it's a possibility.

With Cannon, Solder, and Vollmer being our 3 tackles, + guys like Connelly, Wendell, McDonald, Waters, (and Mankins of course) all offering interior abilities, it may be the position of tackle that Gallery is used best for, since the apparent 'need' would be on the outside.

Since Gallery has played tackle effectively before (something I was not initally aware of), it is certainly a possibility.

 

[patchick]

It's the obvious answer. If we can't do better some year, we aren't trying.

Hmm. Danny Woodhead in 2 years with the Patriots:

174 att 898 yds 5.2 ypc 52 rec 536 yds 10.3 avg 1 fum

You really think it's easy to find better than that?

(BTW, the low fumble rate is especially remarkable for that style of running back. Darren Sproles, Kevin Faulk, Dave Meggett etc. have had MUCH higher fumble rates.)

 

[BBass]

I see the league potentially expanding the final rosters by 8-10 players which is why we continue to bring in talent.