Reiss: Moss played with separated shoulder

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

Can't believe this thread is still going on. What else is there to say about Randy Moss? It's not like he had a terrible season. Funny how you guys are arguing over pretty much nothing. Although this might not have been a "Randy Moss" type season, it was still one of the best in the NFL (statistically).

 

[miDeuce]

Rewatched the first 3/4s of the Colts game this year last night, Moss' left arm is basically useless. On Brady's int in the end zone Moss basically tried to tackle the guy with just his right arm. Can't believe no one picked up on it, when you're looking for it it's blatantly aparent the guy was playing with one arm. And yet he still had how many yards/tds?

 

[stavros27]

75% less? He was on the field for 85% of plays this year, so you're essentially saying that you don't want him on the field for more than 20% of the team's offensive plays? I'm grasping at straws to find a response to this that doesn't come off as condescending, but that's just a dumb idea all around.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he must have meant he wants him on the field for no more than 75% of the downs or less this upcoming season. If he didn't...I don't know what to say.

 

[BostonPatriot]

The answer to this debate lies somewhere in the middle. I don't understand why most of you can't accept this.

To those that think Moss wasn't tanking it at certain points during the season...you are mistaken, he was (at times).

To those of you that think that Moss was tanking it for the whole season...you are mistaken, he wasn't. The man had many injuries that slowed him at several points during the year.

Conclusion: Moss has a fragile ego and is immature. Sure he tanked it at points, but he also played hard and was held back by injury, too.

It's not one extreme or the other.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

The answer to this debate lies somewhere in the middle. I don't understand why most of you can't accept this.

To those that think Moss wasn't tanking it at certain points during the season...you are mistaken, he was (at times).

To those of you that think that Moss was tanking it for the whole season...you are mistaken, he wasn't. The man had many injuries that slowed him at several points during the year.

Conclusion: Moss has a fragile ego and is immature. Sure he tanked it at points, but he also played hard and was held back by injury, too.

It's not one extreme or the other

Not sure I buy that he takes plays off, if his shoulder was as bad as reported, and after rewatching some games, I believe it was, that says a lot about him.There were some throws where he didnt even raise his arm to go for the ball, I thought it was his back at the time but a shoulder injury makes more sense.

 

[RayClay]

As BB showed on video late in the season on some coaching interview show, the one armed guy with the bad back was still drawing triple coverage, which is why he was in the game.

Everybody trying to figure out what percentage of the time he was "dogging" it needs to just stop. You're making yourselves look foolish.

 

[ausbacker]

The answer to this debate lies somewhere in the middle. I don't understand why most of you can't accept this.

To those that think Moss wasn't tanking it at certain points during the season...you are mistaken, he was (at times).

To those of you that think that Moss was tanking it for the whole season...you are mistaken, he wasn't. The man had many injuries that slowed him at several points during the year.

Conclusion: Moss has a fragile ego and is immature. Sure he tanked it at points, but he also played hard and was held back by injury, too.

It's not one extreme or the other.

This really says nothing at all other than throwing a few points around and trying to connect them through psyche.. of which you can't prove either.

 

[BostonPatriot]

As BB showed on video late in the season on some coaching interview show, the one armed guy with the bad back was still drawing triple coverage, which is why he was in the game.

Everybody trying to figure out what percentage of the time he was "dogging" it needs to just stop. You're making yourselves look foolish.

As mentioned, you're not objective at all. If Moss was drawing triple coverage and working hard during every game, there wouldnt be questions about his work ethic in the first place. You can find video of Moss taking plays off too.

How about when he didn't fight hard for the Ball on several occasions that led to ints? Maybe he could have prevented a few?

I'm not saying that Moss dogged it all year, that extreme is incorrect as well. But, your extreme is just as wrong and unobjective. To people like you, Moss can do no wrong.

 

[BostonPatriot]

This really says nothing at all other than throwing a few points around and trying to connect them through psyche.. of which you can't prove either.

Ok then. So tell us ausbacker; whats your opinion? Let me guess...

 

[Sivy]

go to urbandictionary.com and enter in Randy Moss...the part about Moss dropping a pass thats right in his hands, and it still not being his fault is great.

 

[emoney_33]

As mentioned, you're not objective at all. If Moss was drawing triple coverage and working hard during every game, there wouldnt be questions about his work ethic in the first place. You can find video of Moss taking plays off too.

How about when he didn't fight hard for the Ball on several occasions that led to ints? Maybe he could have prevented a few?

I'm not saying that Moss dogged it all year, that extreme is incorrect as well. But, your extreme is just as wrong and unobjective. To people like you, Moss can do no wrong.

Can you Mother Gooses just cut it out already? I don't care if you think you have a PHD in body language.

Honest to goodness, Moss is the only man that can help carry a team with a separated shoulder and then get dogged.

 

[Satchboogie3]

As mentioned, you're not objective at all. If Moss was drawing triple coverage and working hard during every game, there wouldnt be questions about his work ethic in the first place. You can find video of Moss taking plays off too.

How about when he didn't fight hard for the Ball on several occasions that led to ints? Maybe he could have prevented a few?

I'm not saying that Moss dogged it all year, that extreme is incorrect as well. But, your extreme is just as wrong and unobjective. To people like you, Moss can do no wrong.

If Moss can't raise his arms up because of his shoulder... he can't raise his arms. It doesn't matter how "hard" he tries. Seriously, this is ridiculous. The guy was banged up and still had a great season. He didn't make any excuses, why do some people still want to throw dirt on him?

 

[RayClay]

As mentioned, you're not objective at all. If Moss was drawing triple coverage and working hard during every game, there wouldnt be questions about his work ethic in the first place. You can find video of Moss taking plays off too.

How about when he didn't fight hard for the Ball on several occasions that led to ints? Maybe he could have prevented a few?

I'm not saying that Moss dogged it all year, that extreme is incorrect as well. But, your extreme is just as wrong and unobjective. To people like you, Moss can do no wrong.

Are you that clueless? How many receivers draw triple coverage? He was injured. He would have sat, except we had no other receivers.

Do you think Aiken drew triple, double, or even single coverage half the time? You need to reread your posts, realize how ridiculous they sound, and just stop.

 

[BostonPatriot]

Can you Mother Gooses just cut it out already? I don't care if you think you have a PHD in body language.

Honest to goodness, Moss is the only man that can help carry a team with a separated shoulder and then get dogged.

emoney, nice effort on that joke. It was pretty funny!

You are one of the least objective posters on this site and that is why everything you say it taken with a grain of salt.

Tons of NFL players play with injury. It's nothing to toot your horn about. Infact, many top players play with much worse injuries than Moss had. Phillip Rivers playing with no ACL, Brady with the cracked ribs and T.O getting a ligement sown up come to mind.

No one is saying that your hero is a total dog. However, there were times when Moss gave a poor effort on the field.

 

[BostonPatriot]

If Moss can't raise his arms up because of his shoulder... he can't raise his arms. It doesn't matter how "hard" he tries. Seriously, this is ridiculous. The guy was banged up and still had a great season. He didn't make any excuses, why do some people still want to throw dirt on him?

For the same reason homers like you refuse to admit that Moss dogged it a few times this year. No one is saying that Moss is a total dog, but there are times when he gives poor efforts on the field.

As for the injury, big deal, guys play with stuff worse than what Moss had. It's a factor, but not an excuse, because I remember Moss whooping it up late in the season when he made a nice play. Perhaps that "shoulder" became a crutch when it suited him? I don't know.

 

[BostonPatriot]

Are you that clueless? How many receivers draw triple coverage? He was injured. He would have sat, except we had no other receivers.

Do you think Aiken drew triple, double, or even single coverage half the time? You need to reread your posts, realize how ridiculous they sound, and just stop.

You sound just as foolish as the posters claiming that Moss is a TOTAL dog and that the Patriots are FINISHED.

If you weren't such a massive homer, you would see that I'm saying the answer to this debate lies in the middle.

 

[RayClay]

You sound just as foolish as the posters claiming that Moss is a TOTAL dog and that the Patriots are FINISHED.

If you weren't such a massive homer, you would see that I'm saying the answer to this debate lies in the middle.

Based on having lived in Randy Moss's body, of course, you are the only objective one.

 

[muzz]

Re: Source: Moss Played with Separated Shoulder

LMAO - because there's SO MANY white NFL players

It was clear Moss was dogging it, those of us who questioned him were right to do so. Now we have a good answer why and that's a good thing.

Right on, don't let the Homers and apologists tell ya different.
I know what I SAW, I don't need a homertard to tell me what I saw.

I'm actually glad to know that he was playing hurt instead of DOGGING it because he wanted to.

 

[muzz]

Can you Mother Gooses just cut it out already? I don't care if you think you have a PHD in body language.

Honest to goodness, Moss is the only man that can help carry a team with a separated shoulder and then get dogged.

You can get off your knees......Randy went in the other room already.

 

[Sivy]

randy moss 72 up, 12 down
The newest acquisition of the 2007-2008 New England Patriots. A tremendous deep threat. He is so good, that when he drops the easiest pass in the world, he can proudly proclaim 'Its not Randy's fault! Its not Randy's fault!' And everyone will, and should believe him.
Man, randy just dropped that pass, he was wide open

But dude... its simply not Randy's fault.

But the ball was right there! He coulda-

No. It was NOT Randy's fault.

I guess you're right...