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He also mentioned how he understands that comes with time and comfortability as he recalled a time where he was reluctant to question anything early in his career. Sounds like he understands that he's not being questioned enough but also doesn't think it's necessarily a problem with the type of people on staff but rather a function of their comfort level / tenure.

Your point is way too nuanced. Find another board. :D
 
That's still his responsibilty as a leader/supervisor. Again, I find this topic very odd coming out at the end of a season and coming from someone who doesn't talk about the the inner workings of a team or details of his management of people.

Let's not kid around. This story plant is about Dean Pees. I'm supposed to buy into this "Belichick wasn't questioned enough by his staff" story? Pees was with the team since 2004 and now in 2010 we get this spin? Weak.

I would expect BB to say that his own coaching could have been better and that goes for the entire coaching staff also. Leave it at that. Thank Pees for his contribution and go about finding his replacement. Personal changes happen.

Wait a second. You don't think that's already implied? If someone says, I need to be challenged more, that's basically saying that his coaching could have been better. Come on people, this isn't that difficult.
 
Our next DC should be able to do the following things:

1- He knows what it takes to build a kick ars D.
2- He is really good at adjusting to our opponent's O.


Our next OC should have these qualifications as well.
 
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Excellent!! LMFAO. :rofl:
 
That's still his responsibilty as a leader/supervisor. Again, I find this topic very odd coming out at the end of a season and coming from someone who doesn't talk about the the inner workings of a team or details of his management of people.

Let's not kid around. This story plant is about Dean Pees. I'm supposed to buy into this "Belichick wasn't questioned enough by his staff" story? Pees was with the team since 2004 and now in 2010 we get this spin? Weak.

It was a direct question about other coaches challenging him. No one asked that question until the end of this year. BB didn't call up WEEI and say "HEY tell everyone my coaches don't challenge me!"

His response very well could have been mainly about Dean Pees, but I'm not sure what's "weak" about this whole thing?

I would expect BB to say that his own coaching could have been better and that goes for the entire coaching staff also. Leave it at that. Thank Pees for his contribution and go about finding his replacement. Personal changes happen.

When did he ever single out Pees, aside from in your own mind?
 
Chris Price said he thinks Patricia will become DC and Pepper will become the LB coach. Makes sense, imo.

Rappaport at the Herald is saying the same thing. Whoever Belichick wants is fine with me.

With Patricia, while we know you don't need to be a rocket scientist to be a DC, it will be interesting to see if it helps. It just shows that Belichick understands that the strategic thinking it takes to be a DC.

And even though it seems like Johnson could be a guy to inspire the D to play harder and better together, Patricia's track record with Mayo and Guyton isn't bad.
 
How about " Friend of Bill ", Pat Hill, the very successful head coach of Fresno State, or another could be, Kirk Ferentz from Iowa.

Don't be surprised if BB re-evaluates his whole scheme, including hiring from within, and brings in trusted guys from outside the organization.

In fact, I would be surprised if BB doesn't surprise everybody.
 
Patricia's job as LB coach tack record isn't bad as LB coach, so make him the DC and replace him with at LB coach with a top position coach and DC candidate?

What would be gained? Pepper will look elsewhere, having been passed over for the 2nd time, and we'd need a new DL coach.

Rappaport at the Herald is saying the same thing. Whoever Belichick wants is fine with me.

With Patricia, while we know you don't need to be a rocket scientist to be a DC, it will be interesting to see if it helps. It just shows that Belichick understands that the strategic thinking it takes to be a DC.

And even though it seems like Johnson could be a guy to inspire the D to play harder and better together, Patricia's track record with Mayo and Guyton isn't bad.
 
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When did he ever single out Pees

No, he never said Pees, but really - he talks about not being challenged enough and then Pees and then Pats part ways. You don't think that discussion had anything to do with Pees?
 
No, he never said Pees, but really - he talks about not being challenged enough and then Pees and then Pats part ways. You don't think that discussion had anything to do with Pees?

Not specifically no. It was a general question asked to him on WEEI and he answered it respectfully. You should go listen to it, and stop making wild accusations based on coincidence.

You will soon be wearing a tin hat if you don't believe in coincidence.
 
You don't think that's already implied? If someone says, I need to be challenged more, that's basically saying that his coaching could have been better.

I read that as my coaches didn't challenge me enough. There surely can be reasons for that and BB went into those. But I don't see that as primarily criticism of himself (not that I need him to me, fans or the press).

I find the "not being challenged" stuff an odd public discussion. Take the usual press conference-speak at the end of the game. Instead of BB saying "we could have coached better" or "I could have coached better", he said "the coaches could have challenged me more this week in preparation." I see a difference there.

As others have noted, it doesn't seem like Peppers is on the DC track in NE.
If it is Patricia, at least we won't have to worry about him not challenging BB.
 
Not specifically no. It was a general question asked to him on WEEI and he answered it respectfully. You should go listen to it, and stop making wild accusations based on coincidence.

I made a "wild accusation"? Lets not turn this into a Senate race.
 
I haven't read the first 2 pages (80 posts) of the thread, so forgive me if someone has already mentioned these preferences:

If Bill wants to hire someone outside the organization, then my choice, off the top of my head, is **** Jauron. Now, if I gave this more thought & (esp.) research, then I might be able to come up with some names of other defensive-minded ex-HCs or ex-DCs.
I wonder if there is a website that lists those who were HCs & DCs during the past half-decade who are currently unemployed.

If Bill wants to hire someone inside the organization, then my choice is Pepper. I am sick to death of this coaching staff being festered with inexperienced, Division 3 graduate assistant, grateful-for-the-job lap-dog bookkeeper-types.

The more things change...
 
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Our next DC should be able to do the following things:

1- He knows what it takes to build a kick ars D.
2- He is really good at adjusting to our opponent's O.


Our next OC should have these qualifications as well.

You're back again ... :confused3:

Yup ... an OC that adjusts to the opponents offense is a good thing to have.
 
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Patricia's job as LB coach tack record isn't bad as LB coach, so make him the DC and replace him with at LB coach with a top position coach and DC candidate?

What would be gained? Pepper will look elsewhere, having been passed over for the 2nd time, and we'd need a new DL coach.


What he said ......................... :yeahthat:
 
I read that as my coaches didn't challenge me enough. There surely can be reasons for that and BB went into those. But I don't see that as primarily criticism of himself (not that I need him to me, fans or the press).

I find the "not being challenged" stuff an odd public discussion. Take the usual press conference-speak at the end of the game. Instead of BB saying "we could have coached better" or "I could have coached better", he said "the coaches could have challenged me more this week in preparation." I see a difference there.

I made a "wild accusation"? Lets not turn this into a Senate race.

You obviously did not listen to the press conference. And you are accusing Bill of talking badly about Pees which is a wild accusation. It's a monumental and illogical leap from what BB said to you thinking he was talking about Pees.

However if you go back and LISTEN to it he never even once said anything negative about the coaching staff at all. He simply said he understood the question and that it's something that you have to be aware of and he thinks he is aware of it.

Maybe you should listen to it... but here's the transcript if you can't be bothered too. Some people on here took it and flew with it as some sort of indictment of the coaching staff and Bill realizing that he's not being challenged enough. But that's not how it really went down.

Q: This is kind of a hard one, but a lot of the guys that are on your staff now - as talented as they may be - weren't on your staff before you were Bill Belichick, three-time Super Bowl Champion. I wonder if there isn't a level of awe that they may feel to be on your staff, whereas Josh McDaniels, Tom Dimitroff, Scott Pioli, Charlie Weis, you all came up together. What I'm driving at is are you getting enough pushback from the guys on your staff? Do you know what I mean?

BB: Yeah, absolutely. And I've talked to other coaches about that - coaches that are pretty well established, and I get the nature of your question. There's definitely Romeo [Crennel] or Charlie or somebody; they wouldn't really be afraid to at times say, 'What are you doing? Are you serious? Are you seriously considering that?' And then there is certainly another level of coach that at that time or at this time, they just wouldn't say that to me. And I mean, I understand that and that's ... and I was like that. There was a point in time where I was like that, where I would never say to, whether it was coach [Ted] Marchibroda or Red Miller or whoever, I wouldn't. And then there was a point in time where I would, whether it was Bill [Parcells] or - mostly Bill. There's a point in time where you reach a point or you have a relationship and you feel more comfortable saying things that you just wouldn't have said - even with that guy - a few years earlier. I definitely get where you're at on that and I mean, I understand that. We try to have an open communication, an open forum on some things and some things aren't open. Some things are 'This is the way they're going to be.' But I understand what you're getting at and I think that's something, as a head coach, you have to be conscious of and I am. I'm not saying a do a great job of it. I don't know whether I do or not, but I'm definitely conscious of that and I get what you're saying there.
 
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Do you think that Patriots will hire someone from the Jets to be their DC ? Michael Lombardi had this to say about Maimi's DC hire

3. Miami was not going to hire Al Groh or Keith Butler right now and might take more time to discuss its vacant defensive coordinator position. Dee Pees, formerly of the Patriots, might even talk with them, but there’s no guarantee he’ll get the job. One thing’s for sure, the Rex Ryan Jets scheme intrigues the Fins.

Sunday at the Post | National Football Post
 
DC - Al Groh
OC - Brian Billick

Championship
 
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