Bodden

[mayoclinic]

The difference in CB play between this year and last year is striking. Clearly BB got the message that last year's secondary wasn't adequate, as he went out and signed or drafted Bodden, Springs, Butler, McGowan and Chung (in addition to resigning Sanders). Hopefully the drastic improvement and impact on the overall defense will convince the FO to spend some bucks and resign Bodden to a long term deal, though it won't be cheap. I'd put it as defensive priority #2 after Wilfork. Darius Butler has shown tremendous athleticism and flashes of brilliance. If he continues to develop and we can resign Bodden, I would expect Butler and Bodden to be one of the best CB tandems in the NFL next year.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

what? No love for Wheatley?

 

[mayoclinic]

what? No love for Wheatley?

I think Wheatley has plenty of ability and potential. Hopefully he will be able to stay injury free and get enough practice and playing time to develop. But I don't see him displacing either Butler or Bodden (assuming we could keep him) as a starting CB.

I'm very happy having lots of depth in the secondary. The emergence of McGowan gives us 4 potential starting caliber safeties, assuming Pat Chung develops. I would be quite happy to have 4-5 starting caliber CBs as well. We'll been decimated by injuries as well. In today's NFL, roster depth is probably more important than the quality of your initial starters at the beginning of the season. It's a season of attrition as much as anything, and the Pats have excelled at that game before.

 

[amhunt2]

I reviewed our 1st game against da Bills again. I gotta say I was impressed by Bodden. This guy is light years beyond that smurf we traded to the Iggles. Great coverage and timely and accurate tackling. Another poster said we need to let our 2ndary play 1 on 1 and turn loose the front seven against the Jest. I couldn't agree more.

dude he needs so much work it's not even funny.

seems like no one realizes it

 

[amhunt2]

what? No love for Wheatley?

hahahahahahhaa

NO

 

[amhunt2]

The difference in CB play between this year and last year is striking. Clearly BB got the message that last year's secondary wasn't adequate, as he went out and signed or drafted Bodden, Springs, Butler, McGowan and Chung (in addition to resigning Sanders). Hopefully the drastic improvement and impact on the overall defense will convince the FO to spend some bucks and resign Bodden to a long term deal, though it won't be cheap. I'd put it as defensive priority #2 after Wilfork. Darius Butler has shown tremendous athleticism and flashes of brilliance. If he continues to develop and we can resign Bodden, I would expect Butler and Bodden to be one of the best CB tandems in the NFL next year.

cb is still an issue for me.

maybe i'm still waiting for wilhite and wheatley to develop. why can't they be instant successes?

 

[Patspsycho]

what? No love for Wheatley?

Let's call it backup love for Wheatley. He'll fit in somewhere if he stays healthy.

 

[JackBauer]

dude he needs so much work it's not even funny.

seems like no one realizes it

You know, you need to wake up and realize you're the only one who holds this opinion about Bodden.

Which says a lot about the validity of said opinion. Time to re-evaluate, bud.

 

[Patspsycho]

I reviewed our 1st game against da Bills again. I gotta say I was impressed by Bodden. This guy is light years beyond that smurf we traded to the Iggles. Great coverage and timely and accurate tackling. Another poster said we need to let our 2ndary play 1 on 1 and turn loose the front seven against the Jest. I couldn't agree more.

Well if you noticed, he played a lot of one on one today. In fact, our CB's played a lot of one on one today.

 

[Deus Irae]

Bodden hasn't played as well as people are claiming he has. I'm sure that he knows it, even if the people here don't seem to.

Meriweather and Sanders, on the other hand, have been playing extremely well for the most part, and they are making a huge difference in the way the CBs are able to defend.

 

[JackBauer]

Bodden hasn't played as well as people are claiming he has. I'm sure that he knows it, even if the people here don't seem to.

Meriweather and Sanders, on the other hand, have been playing extremely well for the most part, and they are making a huge difference in the way the CBs are able to defend.

I suppose we'll disagree. It seems to be you and amhunt versus just about everyone else. No one is saying he's the next Asomugha; he has, however, far surpassed expectations and played a large role in the surprising good secondary play.

I'm glad we're being exonerated on our defense of Sanders, though.

 

[amhunt2]

You know, you need to wake up and realize you're the only one who holds this opinion about Bodden.

Which says a lot about the validity of said opinion. Time to re-evaluate, bud.

i disagree - obviously. because 4 people on this board agree with you does not make me the minority.

time will tell...doesn't mean im rooting against him either.

 

[Deus Irae]

I suppose we'll disagree. It seems to be you and amhunt versus just about everyone else. No one is saying he's the next Asomugha; he has, however, far surpassed expectations and played a large role in the surprising good secondary play.

I'm glad we're being exonerated on our defense of Sanders, though.

Bodden is able to press in a way that Hobbs couldn't, as well as being able to stick to his duties instead of having to try covering for the mistakes of others, because the safeties are able to help this year and are doing much better in coverage (the second half of the Jets game excepted). Nonetheless, Bodden's been beaten repeatedly and has been the secondary's weakest link against the opposing teams in two of the three weeks. Now, that happens to corners, but people here are acting as if he's been brilliant.

He hasn't.


P.S. I'm not saying he's been terrible, or anything along those lines. I'm merely opining that the response here is more glowing than is deserved.

 

[amhunt2]

You know, you need to wake up and realize you're the only one who holds this opinion about Bodden.

Which says a lot about the validity of said opinion. Time to re-evaluate, bud.

As my boy Deus Irae just posted:

Bodden hasn't played as well as people are claiming he has. I'm sure that he knows it, even if the people here don't seem to.

THANK YOU DEUS!!!!! and you're incorrect again bauer

 

[JackBauer]

As my boy Deus Irae just posted:

Bodden hasn't played as well as people are claiming he has. I'm sure that he knows it, even if the people here don't seem to.

THANK YOU DEUS!!!!! and you're incorrect again bauer

LOL.

So you're going to cite someone else's post, as if that somehow invalidates my argument. Well at least you can take solace in the fact that someone agrees with you.

But even that isn't true, because at least Deus is rational and tempered in his criticism.

 

[amhunt2]

Bodden hasn't played as well as people are claiming he has. I'm sure that he knows it, even if the people here don't seem to.

Meriweather and Sanders, on the other hand, have been playing extremely well for the most part, and they are making a huge difference in the way the CBs are able to defend.

I agree - I think many people share our point of view as well.

 

[JackBauer]

Bodden is able to press in a way that Hobbs couldn't, as well as being able to stick to his duties instead of having to try covering for the mistakes of others, because the safeties are able to help this year and are doing much better in coverage (the second half of the Jets game excepted). Nonetheless, Bodden's been beaten repeatedly and has been the weakness against the opposing teams in two of the three weeks. Now, that happens to corners, but people here are acting as if he's been brilliant.

He hasn't.

I obviously haven't taken the time to break down the defensive plays, but I'd be shocked if this were true. I've seen many more passes completed in front of Wilhite than Bodden.

I never claimed he was brilliant. But he's playing at a #1 CB level, and I would be stunned if the metrics won't eventually bear this out.

 

[amhunt2]

LOL.

So you're going to cite someone else's post, as if that somehow invalidates my argument. Well at least you can take solace in the fact that someone agrees with you.

But even that isn't true, because at least Deus is rational and tempered in his criticism.

please explain my irrationality.

 

[JackBauer]

please explain my irrationality.

Your criticism is vastly overstated.

You may not think Bodden is the bee's knees, but your hyperbole does not support your case.

 

[Deus Irae]

I obviously haven't taken the time to break down the defensive plays, but I'd be shocked if this were true. I've seen many more passes completed in front of Wilhite than Bodden.

I never claimed he was brilliant. But he's playing at a #1 CB level, and I would be stunned if the metrics won't eventually bear this out.

Bodden was the weakest link today and against Buffalo, and he's not playing at #1 CB level.