Leon Washington is going to absolutely scorch this D#

[BelichickFan]

LOL. I'm going to be so conflicted this Sunday. My TE on my FF team is Dustin Keller, I have the Jets defense, and now that LT is probably out I'm going to have to play Leon Washinton...

Man, there is no conflict. I also have the Jets D and hope for a big fat zero.

Fantasy football is fun but let's get our priorities straight.

 

[BelichickFan]

Wait.....Do you mean it's actually accpetable to allow a few 1st downs and a TD every now and then?

The really bad one was the 3rd and 15 that went for a first down. We blitzed right through it, you could tell we were in trouble right off. It happens, though.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

OK, you have convinced me. The Bills gained yards on screens and that means that the fatal flaw of our team has been exposed. We will never be able to stop a screen, and will never win another game.
Finally, our WIN has proven to me that the dynasty is over. We won so badly that we can't possibly expect to beat a team that was 9-7 last year, fired their coach, have a rookie QB. Rex Ryan has a 1.000 winning percentage. I can only hope the game doesnt come down to coaching because our guy clearly proved to us last week he has lost it, and is incompetant.
All these years our defense really sucked, but the statistics and wins were smoke and mirrors. On top of that Richard Seymour was the whole defense, and we are the worst defense in the NFL without him.
I expect the Jets to win the next 15 SBs, how could I not after the way they dismantled those incredible Texans last week. And I'm looking forward to 2012 when we can maybe have rebuilt our entire roster and maybe win a game.
Wow, I feel better. I'm just going to keep repeating....we suck, we suck, we suck....then I'll feel wonderful

Andy should be careful - Drinking TOO much Kool-Aid can result in drowning.

 

[SyN65]

Man, there is no conflict. I also have the Jets D and hope for a big fat zero.

Fantasy football is fun but let's get our priorities straight.

Obviously I want the Patriots to win but I wouldn't mind for Keller/Washington to have a big game in the process.

 

[BelichickFan]

Obviously I want the Patriots to win but I wouldn't mind for Keller/Washington to have a big game in the process.

Whatever, man. I want zeros across the board for anyone I have against the Patriots.

 

[MassPats38]

next week the focus will be to stop the run, and that we will do....the thing is, will the jets have as much success passing, as the bills had yesterday running?

17 points (7 points were from the interception return) against a team with two legitimate number 1 NFL receivers (Owens and Evans), who collectively totalled 5 receptions for 71 yards and a whopping 276 yards of total offense. Add to that a Pats offense which, if it had not sputtered in the first half, could have put the Bills in a predictable passing/come from behind mode in which the Pats appeared to be getting to the QB. I will not say the game was perfect by any stretch, but it was pretty clear what the defensive coordinator was doing.

In light of these considerations, I agree, and hope the Jets do not put up 200 yards of passing if the Pats shut down the Jets running game as the secondary will return to being the Achilles heel of the defense next week in discussions on the board. It's like the Patriots never employed the "bend don't break" defense in the 2003 or 2004 seasons and gave up substantial yardage in games during the best defensive years.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The really bad one was the 3rd and 15 that went for a first down. We blitzed right through it, you could tell we were in trouble right off. It happens, though.

Yea that one was bad...

I'll take a 4-10 on 3rd down any day- maybe less would be better.
But red zone D and making stops when stops need to be made is the calling card of a good D. I LOVED the pressure they put on Edwards on the last drive. Ears pinned back..Beautiful.

 

[Absurdly Metro]

IMO we handle the blitz we win this game. TB & Co. need to come to play EARLY and put up the points. That's how we neutralize their running game and pressure the rook to have to match our scoring. That's the kind of pressure that will force the critical mistakes and make this one a laugher by the 4th quarter.

 

[DW Toys]

IMO we handle the blitz we win this game. TB & Co. need to come to play EARLY and put up the points. That's how we neutralize their running game and pressure the rook to have to match our scoring. That's the kind of pressure that will force the critical mistakes and make this one a laugher by the 4th quarter.

I think Cotchery is the understated player that needs to be stopped. I would seriously double him as in T.O.. I am more afraid of him than T.O. Look what he has done to us in the past. We can't let Keller get a clean release and we spy on little Leon.
Keys to win.
DW Toys

 

[SyN65]

IMO we handle the blitz we win this game. TB & Co. need to come to play EARLY and put up the points. That's how we neutralize their running game and pressure the rook to have to match our scoring. That's the kind of pressure that will force the critical mistakes and make this one a laugher by the 4th quarter.

I agree. Trouble is - handling the blitz. It looked VERY GOOD in week 1. If our OL shows up we got this game.

 

[BelichickFan]

I LOVED the pressure they put on Edwards on the last drive. Ears pinned back..Beautiful.

Right, even in those "sure pass" situations we haven't seemed to get that kind of pressure the past few years.

 

[Mogamedogz]

I think Cotchery is the understated player that needs to be stopped. I would seriously double him as in T.O.. I am more afraid of him than T.O. Look what he has done to us in the past. We can't let Keller get a clean release and we spy on little Leon.
Keys to win.
DW Toys

Im with you on this.. he had 10 catches last week, so it doesnt seem to matter who is throwing the ball to him.

But that little jitterbug still scares the living daylights out of me. It's like he rolls around in bacon grease before he takes the field.

 

[patriotscpfc]

LOL. I'm going to be so conflicted this Sunday. My TE on my FF team is Dustin Keller, I have the Jets defense, and now that LT is probably out I'm going to have to play Leon Washinton...

That shouldn't even dignify an answer.

Who cares about FF.

I have Keller and Cotchery. I'm hoping for 0 receptions for either.

 

[jays52]

Im with you on this.. he had 10 catches last week, so it doesnt seem to matter who is throwing the ball to him.

But that little jitterbug still scares the living daylights out of me. It's like he rolls around in bacon grease before he takes the field.

Remember back February of 2002, there was this back for St. Louis who wore 28? Christ, I can't remember who he was, or if he was any good, but IIRC ESPN said he was a pretty good back, a shifty one, too. Defense seemed to do alright against him.

Then, in February of '05, there was this other guy...36 I think for Philly. I can't remember who he was or what they did with him, but it seemed like the whole offense ran through him. I remember him being completely shut down by the defense as well.

Who were those guys, and were their skill sets similar to, or maybe even superior versions of those of Leon Washington?

 

[TB146]

I don't mind outsiders picking against the Pats... makes me kinda nostalgic for the 2001-2004 era, a rather successful period. Man, nobody played the 'disrespected' card better than Rodney.... but I digress...

But the panic here on patsfans.com is out of place. Maybe Ian should start a second message board for patspanickers.com. I'll admit that I don't have 100% confidence in our defense yet, but 'yet' is a key word. My reasons for doubting are 1) the lack of NFL experience in our many rookies; 2) the lack of collective experience that this D# has as a unit with so many leaders gone and new faces in their place; and 3) Mayo being out 6-8 weeks. All of these will change with time, and I'm looking forward to watching the growth and improvement of the D over the course of the season.

We may lose some games in the coming weeks, and we may have to depend on our dynamic offense to bail us out of some losses, but I'm not panicking. I believe in the talent of our players as individuals, and in BBs ability to put together systems and schemes that will make the most of them. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

 

[TB146]

IMO we handle the blitz we win this game. TB & Co. need to come to play EARLY and put up the points. That's how we neutralize their running game and pressure the rook to have to match our scoring. That's the kind of pressure that will force the critical mistakes and make this one a laugher by the 4th quarter.

I was thinking that we should start the game with our 2-min offense... fly down the field, score big and fast, and immediately put the Jets behind.

 

[SidelineSid]

Remember back February of 2002, there was this back for St. Louis who wore 28? Christ, I can't remember who he was, or if he was any good, but IIRC ESPN said he was a pretty good back, a shifty one, too. Defense seemed to do alright against him.

Then, in February of '05, there was this other guy...36 I think for Philly. I can't remember who he was or what they did with him, but it seemed like the whole offense ran through him. I remember him being completely shut down by the defense as well.

Who were those guys, and were their skill sets similar to, or maybe even superior versions of those of Leon Washington?

You know, I thought about the exact same thing when I first read the title thread. However, I remembered that James Sanders is our starting free safety. If Sanders doesn't play overly cautious, I think Meriweather can stay in the box, can spy Washington, and shut him down. I think this season, so goes James Sanders, so go the Patriots D. If he breaks out this year, we can be extremely dominant this year. If he doesn't, we are going to have alot of games like the one on Monday night. We may still win, but they won't be pretty wins.

 

[JackBauer]

You know, I thought about the exact same thing when I first read the title thread. However, I remembered that James Sanders is our starting free safety. If Sanders doesn't play overly cautious, I think Meriweather can stay in the box, can spy Washington, and shut him down. I think this season, so goes James Sanders, so go the Patriots D. If he breaks out this year, we can be extremely dominant this year. If he doesn't, we are going to have alot of games like the one on Monday night. We may still win, but they won't be pretty wins.

Somehow I don't think it's up to Sanders how "overly cautious" he plays. I suspect that's a decision made by the coaching staff.

 

[mayoclinic]

After watching how easily Fred Jackson was able to turn the corner on us Monday Night, I shutter at the thought of what Washington will do.

Our front seven will have trouble sealing off the edge all season, and those quick little scat backs have been an issue for us the last few seasons. No Mayo, No Sey, I think we are in some serious trouble this week against the run. Washington is as dynamic as there is in the league when he gets the ball in space or bounces to the outside. Im expecting to see lots of nicle and dime packages because we simply dont have the speed to contain him up front.

Our O-line better get their act together quick (YEAH THAT MEANS YOU TODD LIGHT!)... because I have a feeling we are gonna need to put up at least 30 to get past the Boogers. I hate to say it... but I have a hard time picturing any offense hanging 30 on them if they play the way they did against Houston last week.

Yes... I am officially Panicking. :Bag-Over-Head:

Yes, you are panicking. No reason to panic.

First, I love Leon Washington as a player. Great player. Much better than Fred Jackson, who was pretty darn good against us. Only negative thing I have to say about Leon Washington is that he's a Jet.

But ...

(1) BB always focuses his defensive plan on taking away the opposing offense's best weapon. Against Buffalo that was Evans and T.O., and we shut them down. The cost of that was giving up the screen and short stuff. The Jets WRs don't pose the same deep threat. I expect BB to leave the secondary to hold it's own with the Jets WRs, and focus his attention on stopping Leon Washington and the screen plays.

(2) Our screen defense sucked big time on Monday. It will get a lot of attention this week.

(3) Part of our reason for sucking was Mayo's injury. A week of practice should make the remaining LBs much more comfortable with their roles.

(4) I'm hoping to see Pryor active and Ron Brace playing this week. Makes it a lot harder for the opponents to get outside. I thought Jarvis Green played the poorest of our front line last week.

I don't expect us to shut down Leon Washington. He's too good. But I expect us to contain him, and contain the run, and force Sanchez to beat us. I like those odds.

Regarding our offense, I expect that the Jets big weapon will be the blitz. Darrel Revis is a stud, but he can only cover one guy, and Brady has too many weapons for the Jets secondary to stop him. Joey Galloway will get a chance to catch some balls this week, as will Watson and Maroney. Rex's boys will be bringing the pressure, and I assume a big part of the Pats' game plan will be to prepare for this. I expect to see more running plays including some delayed handoffs to throw off the timing of the blitz, and possible a lot of Matthews at TE as a 6th OL to pick up the blitz.

BB is a master at making adjustments and scheming to take away opponents' strengths. No need to panic.

 

[Mogamedogz]

Remember back February of 2002, there was this back for St. Louis who wore 28? Christ, I can't remember who he was, or if he was any good, but IIRC ESPN said he was a pretty good back, a shifty one, too. Defense seemed to do alright against him.

Then, in February of '05, there was this other guy...36 I think for Philly. I can't remember who he was or what they did with him, but it seemed like the whole offense ran through him. I remember him being completely shut down by the defense as well.

Who were those guys, and were their skill sets similar to, or maybe even superior versions of those of Leon Washington?

How many players from those defenses are on our roster right now? Remind me... my memory is a bit foggy this afternoon.