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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.There are a couple of stats that I prefer, because they take in several parts of a quarterbacks's game. Quarterback Rating
You forgot one important stat where Roethlisberger probably has a permanent lead:
Not according to Pro Football Reference; I guess we use different sites for our info.Bulger, Culpepper and Pennington all rank ahead of Brady in all-time QB Rating.
Not according to Pro Football Reference; I guess we use different sites for our info.
92.9 - Brady (4th)
90.6 - Pennington (6th)
89.4 - Roethlisberger (7th)
89.0 - Culpepper (9th)
85.6 - Bulger (15th)
If you look at how scary-young Ben is and how excellent of an organization the Steelers have, there is no doubt that Ben actually has a chance to be just as good ... or even Better than Tom when his career has ended - Yes it is very possible,especially if Pitt continues to dominate thier division and consistently win and we all don't know what type of QB Tom will return as - He may be the same type of player or better or worse
I don't think its fair to say that Tom and Peyton are way ahead of Ben for the simple reason that Ben entered the league in 2004 - Thats 4 years later than Tom and even a longer edge for Peyton .. and Ben already has one more ring than Manning and closing in on Tom
Stop smoking that wacky weed. Tom wins games for the Patriots more often then not. The Steelers win games despite Rothlisberger more often then not. It's the defense in Pitt not Rothlisberger. To even mention the two in the same sentence is a joke. The way I read it the 2008 season is included in those stats and the 2000 season is not.
I don't know what games you have been watching but there are a LOT of QB's better then Rothlisberger. He's nothing more then mediocre.
Could say the same thing about Brady's first ring
Stop smoking that wacky weed. Tom wins games for the Patriots more often then not. The Steelers win games despite Rothlisberger more often then not. It's the defense in Pitt not Rothlisberger. To even mention the two in the same sentence is a joke. The way I read it the 2008 season is included in those stats and the 2000 season is not.
I don't know what games you have been watching but there are a LOT of QB's better then Rothlisberger. He's nothing more then mediocre.
When people look back at this era, Brady and Manning are still going to be so far ahead of the rest of the competition - granted, unless Ben improves greatly.
Ben needs to do more commercials.
I think those stats are very comparable, but also ..........
At first, the Patriots were winning with Brady and not necessarily because of him, but then he became the reason for the victories. The same is true for Ben Roethlisberger.
The Steelers are a great defensive, run oriented team, but they are winning now because of Big Ben. His ability to not exactly look glamarous, but avoid the rush and make big plays when they need it most.
I highly disagree with this post.
Rivers (No Way. He is good, but he also has LT in the backfield, one of the best TEs in the game and the luxary of playing against Oakland, Denver and KC twice a year. Sorry but I don't see the Rivers Lead Chargers ever beating the Ray Lewis Ravens Defense 3 times in one season.)
Warner (He's good, but he has always had Tremendous Talent as Wide Outs in the Years he had Great Years. 5 years of his career are great, the rest mediocre.)
Brees (Great Numbers, zero ability to win big games. Take the Tampa game this year, his team needed a win, the tossed 2 picks in the last 4 minutes)
McNabb (This guy can't win a big game. Yes, he lacks the great talent at WR for most of his career, but he chokes in big spots. He gets nervous and shaky and can not handle pressure at all. He had the ball with a chance to lead his team to Victory in this year's NFC Title game and in the Super Bowl against the Pats, he Choked both times.)
But Palmer? No way, he had one of the best wide receiver corps in football and couldn't win a single playoff game since coming out of USC. Not one Playoff game. Imagine if Brady or Manning had Housh and Chad in their Prime?
Cutler? Come on, the guy has had one ok year and was the QB of the only team in NFL History to be 9-3 and Miss the Playoffs. Great QBs are Great Leaders too. He has proven nothing.
Rodgers. Took an NFC Championship Game Team and missed the Playoffs. He may need a couple years to shake off the Favre legacy. Tell me though, if the Packers start the season next year 0-6, is he still QB of that team? I don't think so. I think a coach could very well be fired in GB next year because of Rodgers.
Roethlisberger is a very good QB, but he is not in Brady's league (at least not yet) no matter what the numbers say. The Steelers have always been about a strong, physical defense and a strong running game. It really hasn't changed with Roethlisberger at the helm. He is great in the fourth quarter like Brady is and is very illusive, but Brady makes the players around him better.
Ben's proven that he can ride the coat tails of a great cast. So did Trent Dilfer. This is the quarterback that opponents WANTED throwing the ball, because people knew that if he had to throw 30 times, his team was probably losing the game. This year, when they became more of a throwing team out of necessity, he threw 17 touchdowns and 15 interceptions, and had an 80.1 passer rating. In fact, in the two seasons that he's passed the most, he's combined for 35 touchdowns and 38 interceptions, and had passer ratings of 75.4 and 80.1.
Did you black out the entire 2007 season because of how it ended for the Pats?
32 TDs / 11 INT / 104.1 rating
No, I pointed to the two seasons surrounding it. Reading comprehension a problem for you?