DeAngelo Hall?

[JSn]

Well he's cleared Waivers. My money is on Dallas, Denver or New England.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

He's gone from being 'the man' in the secondary to getting picked on. He's learning a new style of defense. He's stuck playing for the Raiders.

It's not surprising that he's struggled. Talent-wise, he's worth a look. Character is a different issue, and it's one where I defer completely to Belioli.

If only he has been struggling. Even the Raiders would have patience if that's all it was. He's looked like feces.

As for the man vs. zone argument, the Pats need a guy who can play man, especially in 3rd-and-5 and the like. The Pats have historically been able to plug in JAGs in their zone bend-but-don't-break and be competitive (see 2004). Why bring in another guy who can't play man and is a richard on top of it all?

Regards,
Chris

 

[MassPats38]

Well he's cleared Waivers. My money is on Dallas, Denver or New England.

If Pioli grabs him, I will assume the bad press is undeserved and will look forward to seeing him play for the Pats. If he lacks character and/or a work ethic, "How 'bout those Cowboys?"

 

[fthft]

Schefter believes that a deal will get done between a team and Hall within the next 24-48 hours so he can learn the system and start playing by Week 11. The Patriots appear to be the most likely team to show interest and it would be a sound fit. Humble Pie is exactly what the headcase corner needs.

per Rotoworld.

 

[Deus Irae]

If only he has been struggling. Even the Raiders would have patience if that's all it was. He's looked like feces.

As for the man vs. zone argument, the Pats need a guy who can play man, especially in 3rd-and-5 and the like. The Pats have historically been able to plug in JAGs in their zone bend-but-don't-break and be competitive (see 2004). Why bring in another guy who can't play man and is a richard on top of it all?

Regards,
Chris

Dismissing the character issue for the sake of this discussion.....

1.) Patriots coaching v. Raiders coaching

2.) He's used to playing in a zone, not in man. There's a comfort level

3.) Have you seen the Patriots M*A*S*H unit known as its secondary?

 

[JoeSixPat]

I'm not sure but I think we have an OK track record with guys let go by Oakland deemed to have lost a step, not trying hard, or of questionable moral character.

Maybe its just me but I'm beginning to get the feeling that there's some guys who get to Oakland, even ones who have just signed lucrative contracts, who see what a nightmare situation they have there and will act up just to force the team to trade or cut them.

Anyone else getting that feeling?

 

[Disco Volante]

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Hall decision expected within two days

Now that cornerback DeAngelo Hall has gone unclaimed on waivers, look for him to make a decision in the next 24-48 hours.

Teams that are expected to be interested in signing are the New York Giants, Washington Redskins, New England Patriots and Pittsburgh Steelers.

“It’s rare that one of the top players at his position in the game comes free now,” one of Hall’s agents, Joel Segal, said Thursday. “DeAngelo can be a missing ingredient for any playoff contender that needs a cornerback.

“He’s excited about his potential opportunities and helping a team try to achieve its regular-season and post-season goals.”

 

[slash83]

Give him a Stallworth type deal, fair cost to both sides, stay true to the team, play good football and you'll be rewarded....

 

[thewaylifeshouldbe]

I think if Brady was playing, and we were interested, he might consider less money here.

But Brady isn't, so I think in the long run the Redskins pay him more than we are willing to risk on a mental project.

 

[slash83]

ESPN - John Clayton Blog

From John Claytons blog...

Some of the teams that have checked in on former Raiders cornerback DeAngelo Hall create a few interesting scenarios. The Patriots checked in and are interested. That makes sense. They haven't really filled the void from Asante Samuel's signing with the Philadelphia Eagles in the offseason. Hall is a young corner who could be groomed well in Bill Belichick's system.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

He's gone from being 'the man' in the secondary to getting picked on. He's learning a new style of defense. He's stuck playing for the Raiders.

It's not surprising that he's struggled. Talent-wise, he's worth a look. Character is a different issue, and it's one where I defer completely to Belioli.

Vic Carucci was on WEEI this afternoon and he said that after talking to Tom Dimitroff about Hall he just couldn't see a scenario where his mentors in NE would hire a guy their prize student just cut this spring because he was totally unwilling to buy into either the system or the mirror culture that was being installed in Atlanta. Which is how he landed in Oakland in the first place. Hall is a self absorbed ballhawk who likes to freelance in zone and cares more about his stats than his team. He was not interested in playing zone within the bounds of discipline under a new HC. Nor did he have any interest in trying to adapt to playing man in Oakland once he had his bonus money.

When Ty was younger he and Bill had to go around a bit to convince the ballhawk that he could still flourish within the system, the difference being the team would also flourish. Took Bill a couple of years to sell Ty on that concept entirely, and to this day he resents the system getting credit which is the other reason he's never returned. He wanted to prove that it was all him... You're not going to get much out of a player like Hall on an half season prove it deal playing for a defense predicated on discipline and trust and forgoing personal stats for the sake of team and scheme driven wins..

 

[slash83]

Vic Carucci was on WEEI this afternoon and he said that after talking to Tom Dimitroff about Hall he just couldn't see a scenario where his mentors in NE would hire a guy their prize student just cut this spring because he was totally unwilling to buy into either the system or the mirror culture that was being installed in Atlanta. Which is how he landed in Oakland in the first place. Hall is a self absorbed ballhawk who likes to freelance in zone and cares more about his stats than his team. He was not interested in playing zone within the bounds of discipline under a new HC. Nor did he have any interest in trying to adapt to playing man in Oakland once he had his bonus money.

When Ty was younger he and Bill had to go around a bit to convince the ballhawk that he could still flourish within the system, the difference being the team would also flourish. Took Bill a couple of years to sell Ty on that concept entirely, and to this day he resents the system getting credit which is the other reason he's never returned. He wanted to prove that it was all him... You're not going to get much out of a player like Hall on an half season prove it deal playing for a defense predicated on discipline and trust and forgoing personal stats for the sake of team and scheme driven wins..

You bring up alot of good points, I dunno if its for sure but there have been multiple reports saying the Pats are intrested in Hall and have contacted his agent. I think the next step is Bill and Pioli both have to sit down with Hall and see where his heads at, I think if there pleased in what Hall has to say and comfortable he can work within the system then theres a good chance he signs with the Patriots, im just not getting my hopes up, time will tell...

 

[JSn]

You bring up alot of good points, I dunno if its for sure but there have been multiple reports saying the Pats are intrested in Hall and have contacted his agent. I think the next step is Bill and Pioli both have to sit down with Hall and see where his heads at, I think if there pleased in what Hall has to say and comfortable he can work within the system then theres a good chance he signs with the Patriots, im just not getting my hopes up, time will tell...

Multiple reports often start with one legit mention of interest, though.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Multiple reports often start with one legit mention of interest, though.

I say we start a thread stating that Hall was just seen being picked up in a limo at Logan. Lets see how long it takes before it becomes the headline on a certain website

 

[JSn]

I say we start a thread stating that Hall was just seen being picked up in a limo at Logan. Lets see how long it takes before it becomes the headline on a certain website

They already fell for that re: Lynch. I don't see it happening twice, lol.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

They already fell for that re: Lynch. I don't see it happening twice, lol.

How about this. We start a thread saying that an 18 yr old ex-cheerleader was seen chasing Hall around Boston with a sharpy.

 

[ScottieC]

Multiple reports often start with one legit mention of interest, though.

"Multiple Reports" would not include anyone in the Patriots organization. We all know how they do business when it comes to stuff like this.

It's his agent, and of course he wants the info to get out so it will drum up more demand for this fraud of a Football Player.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

"Multiple Reports" would not include anyone in the Patriots organization. We all know how they do business when it comes to stuff like this.

It's his agent, and of course he wants the info to get out so it will drum up more demand for this fraud of a Football Player.

I was going to ask why you dislike him so much, then I saw where you're from

Personally, I don't know much about him, so whatever Bill does is fine.

 

[ScottieC]

How about this. We start a thread saying that an 18 yr old ex-cheerleader was seen chasing Hall around Boston with a sharpy.

No, Ian would have to add another server to handle the volume.

 

[ScottieC]

I was going to ask why you dislike him so much, then I saw where you're from

Personally, I don't know much about him, so whatever Bill does is fine.

I agree, if Bill says "Yes", then in Bill I trust.

I know we all want help at CB and I love our team and want them to be better with whoever we pick up - But I watched this kid play for a long time in Atlanta and I gotta say, he's just bad. :spygate: