O/T: Protester knocked down by Rams player files assault complaint

[catent]

Usually they're running around with their shirt off or something like a drunken idiot, not trying to crop dust an entire sideline with an unknown substance

Maybe he wanted to protect his sideline/teammates, they are alpha males that take action... Some whack job is on the field and came right at their sideline where all of their players, coaches, etc are

Dude deserved to get completely laid out. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Should be etched in stone somewhere as a monument

No, he didn't necessarily deserve to get laid out IMO. He should have expected it and I don't think it's a terribly unreasonable outcome ... I certainly wouldn't expect anything less if I did that myself, but there's a big gulf between expecting something and deserving something.

The only thing he deserved was to be escorted off the field by stadium security, charged with a crime, fined, and banned from attending that stadium (and any NFL game) ever again.

Re-reading my post, maybe there's a bit of difference between deserving something and something being right. Does a pitch invader automatically deserve to be physically assaulted? I would say 'no', but I can understand how doing something like that could fairly deserve being apprehended in a not-very-nice manner. Is a player who is participating in the game, physically throwing the invader to the ground in every cirumstance, the correct/right way to handle these situations? I would say it's far from ideal.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

No, he didn't deserve to get laid out IMO. He should have expected it and I don't think it's a terribly unreasonable outcome ... I certainly wouldn't expect anything less if I did that myself, but there's a big gulf between expecting something and deserving something.

The only thing he deserved was to be escorted off the field by stadium security, charged with a crime, fined, and banned from attending that stadium (and any NFL game) ever again.

All he had to do was not run onto the field and then run close to a bunch of alpha males spraying an unknown chemical out of a cannister he was carrying

I've been alive almost 40 years, been to countless sporting events, etc and have never even come close to being in that situation... It's not a particularly difficult situation to avoid

 

[woolster22]

You usually have good takes but this is so far out there that it's what is bizarre. It doesn't matter what is "common" in Europe or other parts of the world.

The fact is that it IS against the law here. I'm going to guess you've never read your ticket because it explicitly says it's against the law.

Yes. Actually, being an immature stupid buffoon does mean you should be locked in jail. It's why the law is there.

If getting closer to the person means preventing them from hurting others, yes. Absolutely. And there are many people who feel this way.

What's not a great look is defending such BS.

His take is only slightly less brutal than blindly defending institutions because they simply exist.

I suppose federal mj law is adequate reason for civil asset forfeiture and imprisonment as well?

 

[Froob]

It was funny and I don't have a problem with it, but it's an interesting legal situation. I wouldn't be surprised if they won this vs Wagner or won a settlement.

 

[Steve102]

Usually they're running around with their shirt off or something like a drunken idiot, not trying to crop dust an entire sideline with an unknown substance

Maybe he wanted to protect his sideline/teammates, they are alpha males that take action... Some whack job is on the field and came right at their sideline where all of their players, coaches, etc are

Dude deserved to get completely laid out. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Should be etched in stone somewhere as a monument

I think the current phrase would be F*ck around and find out.

I hope the judge throws him out of court.

 

[Wordsmyth]

Too bad Wagner didn't break the tosser's legs.

 

[Deus Irae]

No, he didn't necessarily deserve to get laid out IMO.

Of course he deserved to get laid out. This has been understood for decades.

 

[woolster22]

No, he didn't necessarily deserve to get laid out IMO. He should have expected it and I don't think it's a terribly unreasonable outcome ... I certainly wouldn't expect anything less if I did that myself, but there's a big gulf between expecting something and deserving something.

The only thing he deserved was to be escorted off the field by stadium security, charged with a crime, fined, and banned from attending that stadium (and any NFL game) ever again.

Re-reading my post, maybe there's a bit of difference between deserving something and something being right. Does a pitch invader automatically deserve to be physically assaulted? I would say 'no', but I can understand how doing something like that could fairly deserve being apprehended in a not-very-nice manner. Is a player who is participating in the game, physically throwing the invader to the ground in every cirumstance, the correct/right way to handle these situations? I would say it's far from ideal.

Running onto a soccer field and invading that space during play is a far cry from running onto a football/rugby field or hockey rink. I'd put soccer somewhere around baseball - where I really doubt there'd be a 'hit' involved with being stopped, unless you managed to run around for a while. The reason being, I doubt soccer/baseball players will as willingly risk their physical wellbeing to stop someone. This is a practiced skill in hockey/football/rugby and should a player decide to intervene in the trespasser to their workplace, I would expect them to utilize "work skills" to defend said workplace - as should any other 'reasonable person' who may find themselves on a jury - if it even gets that far.

 

[Patsfan1958]

Once again someone breaking the law becomes the "victim".

'MNF' Field Invader Suffered Concussion From Bobby Wagner Tackle, Cops Say

 

[JayNM]

The righteous vindictiveness against people who run onto a field during a sports game is so bizarre. You want someone to jailed for this type of thing? This stuff is so common in Europe/other parts of the world, especially in soccer matches, and you rarely see stadium personnel or players physically assault the person who's entered the field in the process of escorting them away.

Being an immature, stupid buffoon doesn't mean you should be locked in jail. It does mean that you should be banned from attending future events, though, if you do this type of thing. It's disruptive and disrespectful to the teams/players.

As a final thought, I always find it amusing when players who tackle field invaders say "it's about our safety, we don't know what they have" ... so why did you run towards them and physically contact them? Why would you get closer to this person if you feared they might want to harm you? Doesn't totally make sense. IMO, let security/law enforcement do their job and apprehend these guys. Players physically intervening isn't a great look.

2-ish opinions and 1 fact here

While IMO this is just all a laughing matter that of course it has to become something bc America. Ive seen players tackle (and worse) tresspassers who were invading the pitch. Nothing happened afterwards AFAIK

I think the tackle was rightfully deserved (didnt seem too violent to me and the intruder is an idiot to do it)

Guys who tresspass into a game go to jail, in Europe and in South America. might not be for long, but they go to jail, pay a hefty fine and get lifetime bans in most if not all cases.

 

[JayNM]

Running onto a soccer field and invading that space during play is a far cry from running onto a football/rugby field or hockey rink. I'd put soccer somewhere around baseball - where I really doubt there'd be a 'hit' involved with being stopped, unless you managed to run around for a while. The reason being, I doubt soccer/baseball players will as willingly risk their physical wellbeing to stop someone. This is a practiced skill in hockey/football/rugby and should a player decide to intervene in the trespasser to their workplace, I would expect them to utilize "work skills" to defend said workplace - as should any other 'reasonable person' who may find themselves on a jury - if it even gets that far.

You've never seem Defender in South America man

They relish the opportunity to scissor tackle a fool and not get a red card