Pats bashing on the adam deal ...people just cant wait to bury the team
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DefenseRules said:As my brother said so eliquently yesterday, "All this over a KICKER."
The sad part about all this is that they are giving him ALL OF THE CREDIT for winning the super bowl. The rest of the team didn't matter. That's sad. Somebody had to get him into field goal range, right? And after he made the kick, somebody had to keep the other team from scoring, right?
Wow, maybe the Pats should give back the Lombardi trophies and Brady and Branch should give back their MVPs. They had absolutely nothing to do with winning the Super Bowls.
I totally agree..AV was the one who got to kick the firld goals...and get THAT glory..but it was the offense who set him up and defese who prevented a score.DefenseRules said:As my brother said so eliquently yesterday, "All this over a KICKER."
The sad part about all this is that they are giving him ALL OF THE CREDIT for winning the super bowl. The rest of the team didn't matter. That's sad. Somebody had to get him into field goal range, right? And after he made the kick, somebody had to keep the other team from scoring, right?
Wow, maybe the Pats should give back the Lombardi trophies and Brady and Branch should give back their MVPs. They had absolutely nothing to do with winning the Super Bowls.
I think that bulletin board material always comes from things opposing players or coaches say, not writers. Hopefully, the Patriots players don't believe this kind of malarkey.minvardar said:Haha, can't you see the writing on the wall? Harrison already has all the motivational tools he needs for next season now! I see him saying "They are disrespecting us by saying a kicker won our Superbowls. Are we gonna put up with that!" Can anyone say bulletin board material?
DefenseRules said:As my brother said so eliquently yesterday, "All this over a KICKER."
The sad part about all this is that they are giving him ALL OF THE CREDIT for winning the super bowl. The rest of the team didn't matter. That's sad. Somebody had to get him into field goal range, right? And after he made the kick, somebody had to keep the other team from scoring, right?
Wow, maybe the Pats should give back the Lombardi trophies and Brady and Branch should give back their MVPs. They had absolutely nothing to do with winning the Super Bowls.
holyredeemer said:Did u even read the article? He gave the credit to BB, Brady AND AV. Look, I dont agree with everything he said, and this is all kind of being blown out. But, when our new kicker comes in and misses just one clutch kick...people are going to be saying "I told u so." And, they will most likely be right. The most dissapointing thing that no one ever talks about, is that AV had to be in that position in the first place. A game should never have to come down to the kicker. Hopefully our offense will get revamped after cleaning some house and be able to get a lg. enough lead that we won't need to worry about a kicker for the win. I do agree with the idea though that the pats did lose their aura. Not just with AV but also with the loss of the clutch play Wllie Mac brought to the table. No matter how good their replacements are, will they be able to come through in the clutch? I guess only 16 games will tell. hopefully they will come through for us.
Feep_FLA said:I can't argue with most of these posts but I still would have loved to see Adam stay with the Patriots. I think the Patriots messed up on this one but heck he's not gonna kick FG's forever. The next hero is out there somewhere, I just the brass finds him and signs him..... :rocker:
Feep_FLA said:Patschick87, I have no doubt the Colts overpaid. I just would have liked to see Adam kicking PATs and FG's for a few more years. I suppose in the end it was too much "cabbage" for a kicker. I can't argue with the logic of letting him go it just bothers me. Like part of the Patriots Mojo is leaving with Willie and Adam.
SVN said:Pats bashing on the adam deal ...people just cant wait to bury the team
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I've talked to countless players who have been buried by the Pats late in games who talk about how the confidence and life of their team is sucked out when Vinatieri comes on for the three-point try.
edgecy said:That thought alone will bury a lot of kickers out there.
I'd hate to be in his shoes
Good point. Somewhat of a corollary: Steve Young got booed by more than a few in San Francisco for years beore those wine soaked fans woke up to the fact that they had another HOFer calling signals. Some would call him Saint Steve for the way he took it. We need a thick skinned, short memory guy with a great foot to come in and follow Adam (Adam II).edgecy said:Can you imagine our next kicker? The moment he's called upon to kick a game-winning field goal... the expectation, the burden that will be on his shoulders.
Obviously this fool has never read "Management Secrets of the New England Patriots". This is the way they have operated all along. This is the way that brought them three Super Bowl victories. Don't overpay for big names. Don't fall in love with your own players. Make personnel decisions based on the cold hard facts, not on emotions or a player's popularity with the fans. Instead of using a big chunk of the salary cap on a few stars, give most of it to the "middle class". Have 53 good players rather than 5 great ones and 48 poor ones. Find players who have been underused or misused by their old teams (Vrabel, Patton, for examples). Find players who may not have thrived in some other system but will do well in the Patriots system. It's all in the book.And now aura and mystique have inexplicably left the Patriots.