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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.The question you should be asking yourself is: why does positivity bother you so much?You are so confused. When @thecore762 posted his thread "Great job on FA day one! Pleased with the front office" everyone fell in line and proclaimed how amazing Day One was to resign all the former BB guys on "great value contracts". This has become the Orchids of Asia board and if you think the Patriots should spend money on FA contracts, since they have the most cap space in the NFL over the next two years, the you are an idiot.
Maybe the Pats think they are a couple of years away and so want to save some of the cap? You can not be sreious. Before it was because BB was so cheap. Now it is because they want to save some cap. My God, are you hammered? The Pats have the most cap space out of 32 teams over the next 2 years, and they sign Nick Leverett and Armon Watts. Are you drunk??????
Because they can't get anyone to come here...?You are so confused. When @thecore762 posted his thread "Great job on FA day one! Pleased with the front office" everyone fell in line and proclaimed how amazing Day One was to resign all the former BB guys on "great value contracts". This has become the Orchids of Asia board and if you think the Patriots should spend money on FA contracts, since they have the most cap space in the NFL over the next two years, the you are an idiot.
Maybe the Pats think they are a couple of years away and so want to save some of the cap? You can not be sreious. Before it was because BB was so cheap. Now it is because they want to save some cap. My God, are you hammered? The Pats have the most cap space out of 32 teams over the next 2 years, and they sign Nick Leverett and Armon Watts. Are you drunk??????
Of course, our first 3 picks will go to the Offense. Of course, this is nowhere near enough to fill all the hole on the Offense.A rookie QB needs all the help they can get to succeed. We cannot put out our current offense with a rookie QB. He will get killed. I think we are ok at TE now but we need 2 more WRs (at least 1 really good one) and I don't trust us to get them in the draft. We also need an LT and a couple other OLs. I hope most of our picks, especially first 3, go to Offense.
I am good with the defense though.
But if all you are doing is giving average talent for your QB, you are setting him up to fail.Especially with who they've added. The guys @One-If-By-Sea mentioned (Watts [1-year] and Leverett [not reported, but likely 1-year]) are both here on short-term deals, among a couple of others, so it's not like they're committing anything to those guys. That way, they can hopefully either extend the guys who have incentive to perform well on essentially prove-it deals, and then move on from the ones that don't. We're at least not seeing them throw ridiculous money at similar players.
No question. But they're likely either going to have to target a guy in a trade or address it next month in the draft. Although, it's still early, so who knows. Obviously, this isn't the group any of us want to see if the season started tomorrow and judging by how hard Wolf went at Ridley, he knows they need help and I don't think he's done trying to find it.But if all you are doing is giving average talent for you QB, you are setting him up to fail.
Good talent that would take pressure off your rookie QB would be way way better.
Why is everything whining? Is this site not here for discussion. You don't like something ignore it or state your case as why it's wrong.Of course, our first 3 picks will go to the Offense. Of course, this is nowhere near enough to fill all the hole on the Offense.
We are where we expected to be. We need a QB, a WR and a LT. We could trade for these; we could draft these, or we could sign these in free agency. The key is to acquire top level players at each of these positions. We whine, whine and whine. We could be draft a QB at 3, our LT next (perhaps even trading up into the first, and we could be trading for our #1 WR. And we would still have lots of cap room to make relatively minor upgrades, probably on Defense.
DEFENSE
Someone asking about which free safeties are left? In 2023, Mills and Phillips took reps at safety. let me just say that I think that we should be able to sign an upgrade.
Perhaps we think that our outside corners need no upgrade or competition with Gonzo, Austin, and Bolden. We have Jones and Jones at nickel. And, sure, we have Wade and Marco Wilson just in case. For me, a possible starter to compete with Ausin would be welcome.
Do you trust them to draft a WR that will be good next year? I don't at all.No question. But they're likely either going to have to target a guy in a trade or address it next month in the draft. Although, it's still early, so who knows. Obviously, this isn't the group any of us want to see if the season started tomorrow and judging by how hard Wolf went at Ridley, he knows they need help and I don't think he's done trying to find it.
I've said it a few times now, but it is what it is. They finished at the bottom of the league last season and have a roster that matches their record, which top-tier guys clearly have no interest in coming to. They got outbid for a guy who didn't want to come here and likely wouldn't have come here without an offer closer to $26 or $28 million annually with more guaranteed money, which would have been ridiculous.
They've retained 11 players, including several key ones. On offense, they brought back Onwenu (that would have left a big hole), re-signed Henry and Bourne, replaced Gesicki (Austin Hooper), and have started adding depth at positions of need, albeit they still need to address receiver, and it could come through a trade given how things played out with Ridley since it's clear it's going to be tough to lure guys here.
I'm sure they're not done. But I mean, it is what it is. Takes two sides to get a deal done and what's gone down hasn't been from a lack of effort. The Brissett signing is what it is. He's a decent player and he knows Van Pelt's system and he'll hold it down for a year for whoever they draft next month. They weren't getting Mayfield, Cousins, etc.
But on offense, the team stinks - nobody wants to play here. It is what it is. And it's going to remain challenging until that changes.
Meanwhile, they've also quietly made some smart moves to bring key guys back on defense, (Jennings, and Dugger), and added Sione Takitaki, who is actually a pretty good player. That group is also getting back Daniel Eukale and Christian Gonzalez, albeit they still could use another corner and additional secondary depth, along with more help up front.
I mean, it's March 13th. It sucks Bill's gone, I would have preferred hiring Wolf/Highsmith and keeping Belichick, but that obviously wouldn't have worked, and again - there's nothing we can do about it. I mean, nobody's thrilled with what's gone down. But that's where we're at.
And the two you mentioned aren't here for reasons that have already been covered and were removed due to posts that had nothing to do with football. I'm not going to rehash that again.
So I guess the question I have is, what else do you want people to say? Are we supposed to spend the offseason lamenting Bill's departure? Call for Kraft's head? Scream for Jonathan to force his dad to sell the team?
I’m with you Ian, unless and until we bring back Trent Brown at *any* price!I've said it a few times now, but it is what it is. They finished at the bottom of the league last season and have a roster that matches their record, which top-tier guys clearly have no interest in coming to. They got outbid for a guy who didn't want to come here and likely wouldn't have come here without an offer closer to $26 or $28 million annually with more guaranteed money, which would have been ridiculous.
They've retained 11 players, including several key ones. On offense, they brought back Onwenu (that would have left a big hole), re-signed Henry and Bourne, replaced Gesicki (Austin Hooper), and have started adding depth at positions of need, albeit they still need to address receiver, and it could come through a trade given how things played out with Ridley since it's clear it's going to be tough to lure guys here.
I'm sure they're not done. But I mean, it is what it is. Takes two sides to get a deal done and what's gone down hasn't been from a lack of effort. The Brissett signing is what it is. He's a decent player and he knows Van Pelt's system and he'll hold it down for a year for whoever they draft next month. They weren't getting Mayfield, Cousins, etc.
But on offense, the team stinks - nobody wants to play here. It is what it is. And it's going to remain challenging until that changes.
Meanwhile, they've also quietly made some smart moves to bring key guys back on defense, (Jennings, and Dugger), and added Sione Takitaki, who is actually a pretty good player. That group is also getting back Daniel Eukale and Christian Gonzalez, albeit they still could use another corner and additional secondary depth, along with more help up front.
I mean, it's March 13th. It sucks Bill's gone, I would have preferred hiring Wolf/Highsmith and keeping Belichick, but that obviously wouldn't have worked, and again - there's nothing we can do about it. I mean, nobody's thrilled with what's gone down. But that's where we're at.
And the two you mentioned aren't here for reasons that have already been covered and were removed due to posts that had nothing to do with football. I'm not going to rehash that again.
So I guess the question I have is, what else do you want people to say? Are we supposed to spend the offseason lamenting Bill's departure? Call for Kraft's head? Scream for Jonathan to force his dad to sell the team?
I feel more confident than I did, at least based on Wolf's history. Obviously, I'd prefer an establish veteran but I feel like they've got a better shot at getting one right in April than they've had in a while.Do you trust them to draft a WR that will be good next year? I don't at all.
Hopefully we can get the guy the Chargers cut today (Williams) or even better Keenan Allen.
Because if things go sideways with the rookie QB, they're not hamstrung like that Pats are now.
No question. But they're likely either going to have to target a guy in a trade or address it next month in the draft. Although, it's still early, so who knows. Obviously, this isn't the group any of us want to see if the season started tomorrow and judging by how hard Wolf went at Ridley, he knows they need help and I don't think he's done trying to find it.
Correction Draft the right WR's we Need a couple Puka Nacua's.There’s a simple solution to change this:
Draft the right QB.
You do that, the whole situation changes. Guys will actually want to come here.