PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Week 17 - NE @ BUF

UGAPatsfan said:

Last in the Division. No playoffs in 4 years. Anyone but Bill is fired already.

Remind me the last time Bill kept a player ONE DAY longer because of past performance?

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Matthew Slater.

GreenCow said:

It’s like you guys have zero memory whatsoever.

Remember the 2018 Patriots? You know, the team that looked like garbage cans in 3 of their final 4 regular season games? Lost 2 of those 4 final games, and Brady was 54% for 126 yards and 2 INT’s in one of the two you won (and against a 5-10 team!).

They then went and won the Super Bowl.

Sigh.

That being said the Bills offense was trash today.

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You know a team is much better when they play a C- game and still win.

This thread is appropriate for the 2023/24 Patriots. A dumpster fire.

RobertWeathers said:

...and?

We weren't impressed with them either until their final two games and the playoffs.

The 2023 NEP suck. Your team looks like ****.

The Jills have a ton of talent but for whatever reason you can't put it together and win a championship

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They miss Daboll.

Boomer B said:

Have you been paying attention to the massive amount of empty seats at Gillette the last home game? Have you seen the polls on TV and radio? The majority of the fan base is ready to move on. It’s not a terrible look to fire a coach/GM who has the team near the bottom of the league and 5 years since a playoff win.

Kraft wrote a letter to his season ticket holders last year promising them a better team. We got worse. He publicly said the expectations are playoffs. He’ll look bad if he doesn’t do anything.

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Yes, I'm aware of the empty seats as posters who attended the games have mentioned on here and the decline of ticket prices. I'm also aware of the noise from the media.

We'll see in a few weeks what will happen.

h0c2000 said:

Matthew Slater.

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Tedy Bruschi.

upstater1 said:

?? Teams fire coaches all the time when they're under contract.

What is going on here?

You guys are dropping down from an alien planet that has never heard of football.

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If you dismiss someone under contract but continue paying him per that contract are you really firing him, or just removing him from that position?

raduray said:

If you dismiss someone under contract but continue paying him per that contract are you really firing him, or just removing him from that position?

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Removing someone from a position is firing them.

h0c2000 said:

Matthew Slater.

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Slater has been solid until this year but fair.

raduray said:

If you dismiss someone under contract but continue paying him per that contract are you really firing him, or just removing him from that position?

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Every time a coach has been fired ("removed from his position") they've been free to coach elsewhere. It is always like this.

Their contracts 100% already envision what will happen when someone is demoted. It's not like this will be a mystery for anyone.

upstater1 said:

Every time a coach has been fired ("removed from his position") they've been free to coach elsewhere. It is always like this.

Their contracts 100% already envision what will happen when someone is demoted. It's not like this will be a mystery for anyone.

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You think Buffalo still got it what's the word Upstate??

Zappe ints look pathetic yesterday who the hell was he throwing to??

sb1 said:

You know a team is much better when they play a C- game and still win.

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That’s my takeaway as well.

I watched the Brady-led Patriots do it for two decades. So many Bills-Pats games where the Pats let terrible Bills teams hang in late but they almost always pulled it off regardless.

Lagaffe_07 said:

I don’t really get your point though. He also scores a ton of TDs.

He is responsible for something like 85% of the teams TDs. He has a better TD/turnover ratio than Lamar.

I would take him in a heartbeat.

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That poster you replied to was just grasping at straws.

As you pointed out, Allen is the entire Bills offense. It’s all on his shoulders and he also leads the NFL in overall TD’s.

People talk about his INT’s (he has a whopping 2 more picks than Mahomes and Hurts this season), but they never mention that his INT’s are often deep down field throws. Obviously no INT is good, but when you’re pinning a team deep in their own territory, it’s a lot different in terms of consequences from that interception, than if you’re throwing them in your own territory or having a lot of pick-sixes.

Fun fact: Allen averages a pick-six once every 1,553 pass attempts. Brady averaged a pick-six once every 669 pass attempts. It’s Allen’s deep-down field attempts that result in his INT’s.

PatsFan2 said:

You think Buffalo still got it what's the word Upstate??

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Yes. They can't get by Baltimore, but if the seedings lineup, they could beat everyone else and make the championship game.

Belichick's D has throttled Buffalo 2x this year. But look at what Buffalo did against the Cownoys (31 points), they beat KC, killed Miami's defense, killed the Jets' D. They put up 30 against Philly.

Buffalo's offense has been on a roll.

I asked some Bills fans at a party last night about how reckless Allen has been with his body. They all supported him going for the 1st down yesterday to put the game away.

They're going to lose their QB with that recklessness.

There are players who are force multipliers in football right now and I'd rank them like this: #1 Lamar Jackson, #2A Pat Mahomes, #2B Josh Allen

Would have been interesting if the Bills played like yesterday in the wild card game...

TheRainMaker said:

Yes, I'm aware of the empty seats as posters who attended the games have mentioned on here and the decline of ticket prices. I'm also aware of the noise from the media.

We'll see in a few weeks what will happen.

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Sadly, I’m not so sure we will see in a few wks. That would be best case scenario imo. I have this awful feeling this is gonna be some drawn out affair that’s going to put the team behind the sticks moving forward, unless they stick with Bill of course.

sb1 said:

Would have been interesting if the Bills played like yesterday in the wild card game...

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We saw it last year. Close win thanks to a good matchup vs a Skylar Thompson led dolphins squad. Then got their sh*t wrecked the next week by Joe Burrow and co.

holyredeemer said:

Sadly, I’m not so sure we will see in a few wks. That would be best case scenario imo. I have this awful feeling this is gonna be some drawn out affair that’s going to put the team behind the sticks moving forward, unless they stick with Bill of course.

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They need to move fast if they plan on having a new HC.

venecol said:

Lol, wrong again.

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venecol said:

No

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Yeah, I got that one wrong and we noticed this later in the other thread. I extended out the SOS percentages to 8 decimal places after @ctpatsfan77 and @Ross12 pointed it out, and that was the actual difference. But the formula I have for that number is accurate (it matches Tankathon's for every team), and I've also since added it to the standings page (under OPP PCT), as it's a useful metric when it comes to adding some context to teams' records (since you can also see how tough a road each one had given the record of their opponents). You can also mouseover each one and see the full number.