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Way to derail the thread. “This is not a political post,” but let me spend two paragraphs bashing conservatives…
Yeah they guy acts like his side wasn't losing their minds over Trump for over four years.
 
Thanks @Ian for your continued support and everything you do here for not only the members but also for the mods!!!

The one thing I've noticed over the past few seasons I've noticed is that the site at certain times(game days) seems to run slower than usual and sometimes crashes. Is there anything we can do to make sure this doesn't happen this year? Is there anything that I can do to assist you? Just let me know!!!

Ash
 
This is not a take-sides political post...it's about something else.

I drove up to see my sister in NH yesterday and passed a house that had hateful Biden signs all over the front lawn and another with F*** Joe Biden (spelled out - in a neighborhood full of kids), Let's Go Brandon, and Trump 2024 giant flags.

I did my typical sigh, but the thoughts stayed with me. How sick in the head, how full of irrational rage, does a person have to be to spend all kinds of money and energy to put a permanent primal scream up in their neighborhood, and about something (someone) that really hasn't made much of a difference in their day-to-day life in any way, shape, or form? I know people like this - several ex-friends, because it just wasn't worth the energy to listen to them anymore. They go to work all day, listen to hate-radio back and forth, then come home and rush to put on Fox or OANN to hear some out-of-context or blown out of proportion OUTRAGE perpetrated by an evil libtard (in some town no one ever heard of) or some illegal brown person or some stupid teacher or whatever.

They go to feed their addiction. I've said it repeatedly here, whenever Felger and Mazz are brought up: anger lights up the brain same as porn, and it's addictive. And that drug is the formula of hateful, as opposed to informative, talk radio and cable news (the side of the argument is irrelevant). The fighting is the point. The fighting gets the clicks. It's the unconscious desire feeding that fix for anger. And it's destructive to the addict, their family/friends/social circle...their Thanksgiving gatherings.

The same thing is going on here, and with all sincere respect (seriously), Ian, you're not going to stop it with Block or Ignore functions. The formula works for a while, then burns itself out, or settles into an echo chamber of misery, because the people seeking informative discussion just can't deal with it any longer.

In any case, I wish you all well. It was a fun few years here. I don't watch cable news at all anymore. I don't listen to F&M or any of the controversy mongers at all anymore (and hint: the vast majority of fans don't listen to them, either), nor do I engage in the irrational and hateful social media political wars - in the limited time I spend on social media at all. I'm happier. I'm more informed now than I was when everything had to have a side to hate. It's kind of ridiculous that this analogy is apropos to a fan board for an unbelievably successful sports franchise.

And it's a damned shame, because this site wasn't like this at all until the last couple of years, and is worse this year than ever. The curmudgeons of yesteryear, for all their screaming schtick, were informed and made good arguments or were hilarious (Joker, Captain - I love those guys), but first and foremost THEY WERE FANS, actual fans, who would complain about something specific in threads about that one issue, but otherwise support the team. Now the place is full of either trolls from other team's boards, fans broken beyond repair by Brady leaving, or just people who need the fight fix.

Ah well...

Way to derail the thread. “This is not a political post,” but let me spend two paragraphs bashing conservatives…
I get the message and where you were going with that, even though there's no need to bring politics into it because just like everywhere, you can't paint a broad brush based on a group of people.

I understand and obviously recognize the issue, which is and will continue to be challenging but I'm going to try and at least make things a little easier for people to control their experience if they so choose. I'm also hoping that people cooperate and help out, which I know is going to be a little tough but I'd like to think everyone collectively can try and come together a little more and work through them.

One thing that will definitely help would be or people to also take an extra moment and say, "do I really want to go there?" on some of these posts before hitting the "reply" button. If you have a feeling that it will get somebody fired up or that you're thinking "I don't care" if it starts a problem, try and be self-aware enough to not push that button. That in and of itself would be a good first step and would probably make a difference in some of these threads ;)
 
I sort of fall on the same thing. If you don't like it, don't go in there.

And both 98.5 and WEEI are on-air video-wise in one form or another. Exciting stuff :D

I know right? Because what I really felt was missing from their radio content was their big stupid faces.

One thing that will definitely help would be or people to also take an extra moment and say, "do I really want to go there?" on some of these posts before hitting the "reply" button. If you have a feeling that it will get somebody fired up or that you're thinking "I don't care" if it starts a problem, try and be self-aware enough to not push that button. That in and of itself would be a good first step and would probably make a difference in some of these threads ;)

I agree 100% with this. Another way to think of it is: Am I replying because I legitimately think there's a point to be made that this poster is missing, or am I replying because I think they're wrong and want to tell them they're wrong? They can feel VERY similar in the moment, but if you really step back they spiral into very different discourses. People can sense when someone is arguing to win, rather than arguing to further a debate.

But in a way it's inevitable. We're sports fans. The very nature of the entertainment we're talking about here attracts people who love competition. For many, the act of arguing here is as much a sport as the game of football itself.
 
Thanks @Ian for your continued support and everything you do here for not only the members but also for the mods!!!

The one thing I've noticed over the past few seasons I've noticed is that the site at certain times(game days) seems to run slower than usual and sometimes crashes. Is there anything we can do to make sure this doesn't happen this year? Is there anything that I can do to assist you? Just let me know!!!

Ash
I've been rewriting code sitewide so far this offseason to drop some of the server load during peak times, which should hopefully help there. I'm also in discussions with the server company on some things, but what I'm working on should reduce the number of database calls considerably on game days, which should make a significant difference.
 
Thanks @Ian for your continued support and everything you do here for not only the members but also for the mods!!!

The one thing I've noticed over the past few seasons I've noticed is that the site at certain times(game days) seems to run slower than usual and sometimes crashes. Is there anything we can do to make sure this doesn't happen this year? Is there anything that I can do to assist you? Just let me know!!!

Ash
I noticed when that happens either something really good or something really bad happened with the Patriots. No in between! lol
 
I agree 100% with this. Another way to think of it is: Am I replying because I legitimately think there's a point to be made that this poster is missing, or am I replying because I think they're wrong and want to tell them they're wrong? They can feel VERY similar in the moment, but if you really step back they spiral into very different discourses. People can sense when someone is arguing to win, rather than arguing to further a debate.

But in a way it's inevitable. We're sports fans. The very nature of the entertainment we're talking about here attracts people who love competition. For many, the act of arguing here is as much a sport as the game of football itself.
I also think people are a little more volatile now given the current climate of things and online confrontation is almost cathartic to a certain extent because it's an outlet to let off a lot of the frustration people are feeling without much recourse. It's obviously spilled over to everywhere, including here. I get it - I got roped into it a little bit a couple of years ago before reminding myself that fighting with people is pointless.

Honestly, when someone passionately believes in something, whether you agree with them or not, it's easier just to understand that "it is what it is" and that you're not going to change their minds. It's just easier to try and find some common ground on things you do agree on. If you don't, and you just can't get along with them, just end the discussion and talk to someone else, or move on to another topic.

The same should sort of be true in here. Having a debate is great, and asking questions and trying to understand why someone feels the way they do is a better approach than telling them what they should think. Telling people "you're stupid" or "only an idiot/moron" would think that way is just going to trigger a bad response and obviously sets off multiple responses of people trying to not lose face to the other person. That then draws other people in (because who doesn't like watching a train wreck?) and it goes downhill from there.

Again, I'm just pointing out situations to try and make people a little more self-aware. I get it, some responses are ill-advised and frustrating, but that doesn't mean everyone requires a negative response. This is simply a very diverse community with hundreds of people with different opinions, so it's never going to be perfect but I do feel like we can be a little better around here than we've been collectively.
 
The problem comes when Team Brady folks come over to the main board to troll. People like crawhammer and SB1. That’s when I go to the Brady forum and troll them back. Then they complain and I get in trouble.
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The problem with the Tommy Bucs Ball Washer Echo Chamber is that there is no lock on the door to keep them and their All Bucs/All the Time self-pleasuring confined. Too often, these kindred fanboys break free from their Tommy Bucs *********** rituals and in their heightened state of arousal, trespass into Patriots dedicated threads with malicious intentions.
At a minimum, build a big, beautiful wall around the Tommy Bucs Pleasure Cave and patrol it for breaches.
At a maximum, expunge the platform and be faithful to the site's mission statement.
As is, this cross-contamination is a major health hazard and it's infecting us all. (Pray for Joker)

Make PatsFans.com Great Again
Bigly!!!
 
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To add to what Ian/Sicilian are saying, some of the best part of this site for me is just reading, following along -- dont feel the need to chime in because we have some very knowledgeable, seasoned fans that provide material i couldnt realistically add anything further. I don't post a whole lot, except for a few quips here and there, but I appreciate the content and enjoy it. I think we, on occasion, have too many threads that go down a rabbit hole where it feels like a pair or few posters just turn the thread Into thunderdome with eachother.

I will say I think we need to clamp down on the BBvTB debates that seemingly arise from threads that don't warrant it (see: draft thread). It'd be nice to see the posters with the anti BB or TB shtick learn some self control or we get some moderation on their derailment for their own personal crusade, which is basically just trolling. I'm reading 99% and posting 1% of my time, and nothing ruins it for me more than that garbage ruining threads time and time again.
 
I get the message and where you were going with that, even though there's no need to bring politics into it because just like everywhere, you can't paint a broad brush based on a group of people.

I understand and obviously recognize the issue, which is and will continue to be challenging but I'm going to try and at least make things a little easier for people to control their experience if they so choose. I'm also hoping that people cooperate and help out, which I know is going to be a little tough but I'd like to think everyone collectively can try and come together a little more and work through them.

One thing that will definitely help would be or people to also take an extra moment and say, "do I really want to go there?" on some of these posts before hitting the "reply" button. If you have a feeling that it will get somebody fired up or that you're thinking "I don't care" if it starts a problem, try and be self-aware enough to not push that button. That in and of itself would be a good first step and would probably make a difference in some of these threads ;)

Best thing you can do is add the "block user" feature, so thank you for that. There are a handful of posters who I just don't want to interact with period. I don't want them to see what I write, and I don't want to read what they write. I'm not talking about the harmless trolls like crawhammer either who I can deal with by just putting on ignore.

Also there are times when I post something and regret it - usually jus a spur of the moment thing. Can you bring back the delete button?
 
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Best thing you can do is add the "block user" feature, so thank you for that. There are a handful of posters who I just don't want to interact with period. I don't want them to see what I write, I don't want to read what they write. I'm not talking about the harmless trolls like crawhammer either who I can deal with by just putting on ignore.

Also there are times when I post something and regret it - usually jus a spur of the moment thing. Can you bring back the delete button?
The block user function will be added, so that will be coming.

On a different note, for the sake of not irritating everyone - myself included - getting rid of the "suspended" stat in your signature would be appreciated. I would say 98% of us understood the ideal gas law and 2psi was not something even the NFL could disprove during their "spot checks". So that remains another frustrating topic that you don't need to constantly remind us of. ;)
 
This is not a take-sides political post...it's about something else.

I drove up to see my sister in NH yesterday and passed a house that had hateful Biden signs all over the front lawn and another with F*** Joe Biden (spelled out - in a neighborhood full of kids), Let's Go Brandon, and Trump 2024 giant flags.

I did my typical sigh, but the thoughts stayed with me. How sick in the head, how full of irrational rage, does a person have to be to spend all kinds of money and energy to put a permanent primal scream up in their neighborhood, and about something (someone) that really hasn't made much of a difference in their day-to-day life in any way, shape, or form? I know people like this - several ex-friends, because it just wasn't worth the energy to listen to them anymore. They go to work all day, listen to hate-radio back and forth, then come home and rush to put on Fox or OANN to hear some out-of-context or blown out of proportion OUTRAGE perpetrated by an evil libtard (in some town no one ever heard of) or some illegal brown person or some stupid teacher or whatever.

They go to feed their addiction. I've said it repeatedly here, whenever Felger and Mazz are brought up: anger lights up the brain same as porn, and it's addictive. And that drug is the formula of hateful, as opposed to informative, talk radio and cable news (the side of the argument is irrelevant). The fighting is the point. The fighting gets the clicks. It's the unconscious desire feeding that fix for anger. And it's destructive to the addict, their family/friends/social circle...their Thanksgiving gatherings.

The same thing is going on here, and with all sincere respect (seriously), Ian, you're not going to stop it with Block or Ignore functions. The formula works for a while, then burns itself out, or settles into an echo chamber of misery, because the people seeking informative discussion just can't deal with it any longer.

In any case, I wish you all well. It was a fun few years here. I don't watch cable news at all anymore. I don't listen to F&M or any of the controversy mongers at all anymore (and hint: the vast majority of fans don't listen to them, either), nor do I engage in the irrational and hateful social media political wars - in the limited time I spend on social media at all. I'm happier. I'm more informed now than I was when everything had to have a side to hate. It's kind of ridiculous that this analogy is apropos to a fan board for an unbelievably successful sports franchise.

And it's a damned shame, because this site wasn't like this at all until the last couple of years, and is worse this year than ever. The curmudgeons of yesteryear, for all their screaming schtick, were informed and made good arguments or were hilarious (Joker, Captain - I love those guys), but first and foremost THEY WERE FANS, actual fans, who would complain about something specific in threads about that one issue, but otherwise support the team. Now the place is full of either trolls from other team's boards, fans broken beyond repair by Brady leaving, or just people who need the fight fix.

Ah well...
Hey yea I don't mean to be political or anything but liberals are ****ing psychopaths just my opinion no offense
 
Hey yea I don't mean to be political or anything but liberals are ****ing psychopaths just my opinion no offense
I get what he was trying to say, but agree - as you summed up in one sentence - that it obviously wasn't an ideal way to make the point. ;)

Although, I do feel like we need to try and find some common ground when it comes to the team itself, which with Mac here now will hopefully start to get a little easier this season.
 
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The problem with the Tommy Bucs Ball Washer Echo Chamber is that there is no lock on the door to keep the Brady Butt Pirates and their All Bucs/All the Time self-pleasuring confined. Too often, participants break free from their Tommy Bucs *********** and in their heightened state of arousal, trespass into Patriots dedicated threads with malicious intentions.
At a minimum, build a big, beautiful wall around the Tommy Bucs Pleasure Cave and patrol it for breaches.
As is, this cross-contamination is a major health hazard and it's infecting us all. (Pray for Joker)

Make PatsFans.com Great Again
Bigly!!!
It's not lost on most of us that the poster you're replying to is the #1 instigator in bringing up Brady on non-relevant threads. He'll even bring him up on Pats GDTs. Most Brady threads on the main forum are started by posters that don't frequent the Brady forum. Of course, once Timmy begins bringing up the Giants SBs (which he loves to do), it turns into a shyt show.

Of course, attacking and putting down Brady on thread after thread seems perfectly fine to Brady haters because, well he's no longer on the team. It is what it is but stop being a hypocrite.
 
I get what he was trying to say, but agree - as you summed up in one sentence - that it obviously wasn't an ideal way to make the point. ;)

Although, I do feel like we need to try and find some common ground when it comes to the team itself, which with Mac here now will hopefully start to get a little easier this season.
TBH I don't think it'll ever be "normal" until BB and TB both retire. People are always going to be debating who was more important and who was wrong or who was right. I personally think BB and TB both made the right decision. We couldn't keep living on "is this the year" with Brady, we had to start rebuilding at some point. And we followed the same strategy with Brady as we did with other favorites/veterans: say goodbye sooner rather than later.

Like 50-yard-line tried (and failed horribly) to say, there are always going to be loud irrational people on both sides of the debate that you can't argue with. I don't get why people waste the energy doing it but to each their own
 
How sick in the head, how full of irrational rage, does a person have to be to spend all kinds of money and energy to put a permanent primal scream up in their neighborhood, and about something (someone) that really hasn't made much of a difference in their day-to-day life in any way, shape, or form? I
I have a question about the above statement. If people are mad about gas prices, food prices, rent, the economy, their 5 year olds being spoke to about changing their gender, etc and these things can greatly affect their day to day lives (and obviously have), why aren't they allowed to exercise their 1st amendment right in a peaceful manor?

And why don't you think people haven't had a change in their day to day lives from what's been happening?
 
The problem comes when Team Brady folks come over to the main board to troll. People like crawhammer and SB1. That’s when I go to the Brady forum and troll them back. Then they complain and I get in trouble.
I've complained about your posts exactly 0 times but ok.

Your sigs gloating about the Patriots losing SB42 is a different story and anything I said about that was in public on the board. No real Patriots fan on a Pats board would have a sig like that regardless of how they feel about Brady now.

Also the word Bradyite was my creation so where are my royalty checks. lol
 
I have a question about the above statement. If people are mad about gas prices, food prices, rent, the economy, their 5 year olds being spoke to about changing their gender, etc and these things can greatly affect their day to day lives (and obviously have), why aren't they allowed to exercise their 1st amendment right in a peaceful manor?

And why don't you think people haven't had a change in their day to day lives from what's been happening?
Yeah ... I get the curiosity in what you're asking, but we're 100% not going there in this thread.
 
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