This Chiefs team is garbage

Patriot Missile said:

Wasn’t Steve Spagnola supposed to make this defense better? They are worse than last season.

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Hard to do that when you don’t have the personnel at corner. Frank Clark has been a disappointment thus far. The guy’s stealing money.

BaconGrundleCandy said:

He's so good & has been for a long time. So efficient. Dude is asked to do everything w a bad OL, best weapon retired in Baldwin & he just keeps making plays.
Since last year 47 TD/7 INT. Almost 5,000 yards. ANY/A 9.27 this year, only Mahomes is higher.

Wilsons trade off is sacks but one can hardly blame him or at least sympathize a lil when you look at the situation.

Seems like a nice guy as well.

Hope I don't get arrested by the Pats homer police? Just a lil appreciation of other players.



Hopefully I get to keep my Pats fan card w this
Like I said above though Wilsons trade off is sacks. Last he was top 5 w sack% at 10.7 & 13th this year at 7.7. Big improvement but still could be a lil better.

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MainePatsFan26 said:

Wilson already has won a Super Bowl and guided that team to success even during rebuilding years. It is incredible he isn't talked about as equal to Aaron Rodgers based on how much Wilson does for that franchise.

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At some point this week (after being able to compile all the numbers and accomplishments), I’d like to post a poll on here.

As of now, which QB deserves All-NFL 2010s Second Team?

Brady is, according to everything I’ve seen, a lock for first team, as championships are are weighted heavily for quarterbacks.

Second team is very interesting, especially with Wilson’s 2019 campaign right now. I’d like to do some comprehensive facts before posting it, but some basic stuff here:

The race is between Rodgers, Brees, and Wilson (Ryan would probably be 4th, Roethlisberger or Manning 2010-14 would be 5th).

The accomplishments are only supposed to count 2010-19, so technically Brees’s SB and SB MVP would not count, though voters have final say.

• Brees: 2X All-Pro (not distinguishing 1st/2nd team), 4 playoff wins
• Wilson: 0x All-Pro (surprising), 8 playoff wins, 2 conference titles, 1 SB
• Rodgers: 2X MVP, 3X All-Pro, 9 playoff wins, 1 conference title, 1 SB (SB MVP)

Who would you choose?

Chiefs planet is a trip. Every other post is the nfl is rigged. Robert Kraft wanted Houston to win today so the league complied. The league has been rigged for 40 years. I want to ask these morons. If you really think the nfl is rigged against the Chiefs than why watch every week? If it’s rigged there is no reason to watch. Also do you not see that your defense is dreadful? One of the more delusional fan bases. And I read the jets forum too.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

At some point this week (after being able to compile all the numbers and accomplishments), I’d like to post a poll on here.

As of now, which QB deserves All-NFL 2010s Second Team?

Brady is, according to everything I’ve seen, a lock for first team, as championships are are weighted heavily for quarterbacks.

Second team is very interesting, especially with Wilson’s 2019 campaign right now. I’d like to do some comprehensive facts before posting it, but some basic stuff here:

The race is between Rodgers, Brees, and Wilson (Ryan would probably be 4th, Roethlisberger or Manning 2010-14 would be 5th).

The accomplishments are only supposed to count 2010-19, so technically Brees’s SB and SB MVP would not count, though voters have final say.

• Brees: 2X All-Pro (not distinguishing 1st/2nd team), 4 playoff wins
• Wilson: 0x All-Pro (surprising), 8 playoff wins, 2 conference titles, 1 SB
• Rodgers: 2X MVP, 3X All-Pro, 9 playoff wins, 1 conference title, 1 SB (SB MVP)

Who would you choose?

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Wilson's got my vote.

Bledsoehasaring said:

Chiefs planet is a trip. Every other post is the nfl is rigged. Robert Kraft wanted Houston to win today so the league complied. The league has been rigged for 40 years. I want to ask these morons. If you really think the nfl is rigged against the Chiefs than why watch every week? If it’s rigged there is no reason to watch. Also do you not see that your defense is dreadful? One of the more delusional fan bases. And I read the jets forum too.

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So, basically, it's no different from here, or any other sports forum, other than the freedom to use more "adult" language.

Deus Irae said:

So, basically, it's no different from here, or any other sports forum, other than the freedom to use more "adult" language.

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I don’t see post here that individual games are rigged very often. The nfl is not rigged. Arguing that certain teams get bs suspensions or more negative attention from the media is standard fan base whinning but that’s alot different than saying that the pats have no chance to beat the chiefs this year cause the game out come is predetermined. Also as crazy as the jets fans are they don’t say that the games are predetermined. Chiefs fans think the league has predetermined a patriots 49ers Super Bowl.

Bledsoehasaring said:

I don’t see post here that individual games are rigged very often.

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1. They do happen
2. You're less likely to see such posts when teams are winning, which explains why you haven't seen it here as often as you might see it elsewhere.

Bledsoehasaring said:

The nfl is not rigged.

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That claim likely depends upon how you're defining "rigged". There's no question, for example, that assigning certain officiating crews to certain teams will have a tendency to make things easier/tougher for said teams.

Bledsoehasaring said:

Arguing that certain teams get bs suspensions or more negative attention from the media is standard fan base whinning but that’s alot different than saying that the pats have no chance to beat the chiefs this year cause the game out come is predetermined.

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Not really. The second is just a fatalistic outlook via a pessimistic view of the former.

Bledsoehasaring said:

Also as crazy as the jets fans are they don’t say that the games are predetermined. Chiefs fans think the league has predetermined a patriots 49ers Super Bowl.

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I've never yet seen a single fan base, in either basketball or football, where people don't claim that game outcomes are predetermined, or at least attempted to be predetermined, by the league. Hockey and baseball are a bit different, and the number of people making such claims will vary according to team success and other factors (history of getting screwed, as with the Saints, for example). But, even there, people will talk about specific officials and their potential impact upon game results.

There are a few outlier fan bases in sports, but most fall within a small range (in the context of the particular sport/league), in terms of how they behave at games, publicly, and in social media. Chiefs fans tend run a bit more to the pessimistic side, because of their "recent" history, but that doesn't put them outside of any overall norm.

Bledsoehasaring said:

Chiefs planet is a trip. Every other post is the nfl is rigged. Robert Kraft wanted Houston to win today so the league complied. The league has been rigged for 40 years. I want to ask these morons. If you really think the nfl is rigged against the Chiefs than why watch every week? If it’s rigged there is no reason to watch. Also do you not see that your defense is dreadful? One of the more delusional fan bases. And I read the jets forum too.

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I've seen the Chefs' O gain flags every third down after an incomplete pass. If it's rigged, it's in their favor.

Deus Irae said:

1. They do happen
2. You're less likely to see such posts when teams are winning, which explains why you haven't seen it here as often as you might see it elsewhere.

That claim likely depends upon how you're defining "rigged". There's no question, for example, that assigning certain officiating crews to certain teams will have a tendency to make things easier/tougher for said teams.



Not really. The second is just a fatalistic outlook via a pessimistic view of the former.



I've never yet seen a single fan base, in either basketball or football, where people don't claim that game outcomes are predetermined, or at least attempted to be predetermined, by the league. Hockey and baseball are a bit different, and the number of people making such claims will vary according to team success and other factors (history of getting screwed, as with the Saints, for example). But, even there, people will talk about specific officials and their potential impact upon game results.

There are a few outlier fan bases in sports, but most fall within a small range (in the context of the particular sport/league), in terms of how they behave at games, publicly, and in social media. Chiefs fans tend run a bit more to the pessimistic side, because of their "recent" history, but that doesn't put them outside of any overall norm.

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Fair enough fans are idiots. But I feel your theory doesn’t allow much for degrees of idiots. So chiefs fans are the same as Arizona cardinal fans? I disagree. Some fan bases are also more informed than others for a variety of reasons. On the jets forum right now they are talking about the playoffs. Here we have multiple threads about our struggling offense which is somewhat true and we are 6-0.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

• Brees: 2X All-Pro (not distinguishing 1st/2nd team), 4 playoff wins
• Wilson: 0x All-Pro (surprising), 8 playoff wins, 2 conference titles, 1 SB
• Rodgers: 2X MVP, 3X All-Pro, 9 playoff wins, 1 conference title, 1 SB (SB MVP)

Who would you choose?

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Purely out of these stats you posted and not checking anything else, it's obviously Rodgers and not even close.

carmelo15 said:

Crown Mahomes

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The tape on Mahomes is out and the slide back to Planet Earth has begun now that a blueprint is available to flummox him. I bet he also goes from another once-in-a-generation talent to merely top-5 QB. Rodgers has shown how Mahomes career path is likely to go, and there are still pundits out there who swear Rodgers is the "best-evah" despite his lack of post-season success. "He can do on the field what no other can do". "Just look at the trajectory on that Hail Mary, gosh!". blah blah blah. For Mahomes we get the "OMG look at that no-look pass, *drool*" "Look at that off-balanced, falling-back, throw on another broken down play, AMAZING!". For Brady we usually get under-handed compliments like "That throw left his hand in 1.9 seconds since he knows pass-rush is coming". "He just threw to the open man, yawn." I bet Mahomes doesn't even eclipse Rodgers' accomplishment if reports are true of him wanting $40m per year guaranteed ($200m fully guaranteed for 5 years). It would surpass, wait for it, Rodgers' $33.5m per year deal signed this August.

TommyBrady12 said:

Mahomes may be dealing with an ankle injury from last week...it could be something that lingers all season. Still, he managed to throw for 275 yards and 3 TDs today.

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Just because he lost the game we don't need to make up excuses for him.

MainePatsFan26 said:

I'm not sure if we agree or disagree on the idea of whether the Chiefs were right to try to push the ball down the field. But I do know that, for me, Reid's poor management in that situation is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of his issues managing pressure situations. He's great with his initial script, as the commentators noted today; however, when the team needs Reid's acumen and leadership in high pressure, evolving situations he regularly finds ways to disappoint.

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I am somewhere in between. On the one hand the Chiefs know quite well that the Texans were in control of the game. They also knew that they have a highly explosive offense that can break big gains in mere seconds. Similarly odds to get some defensive holding or DPI flags are also fairly good.

If you are the Chiefs you had a lot of reasons to try to get something cooking before HT.

On the other hand you are also taking some risk on. Now if you are a different team like the Pats with a strong defense that can control the game then it is an entirely different story and the risks might outweigh the benefits.

In short.. as always the devil is in the details..

Biffins said:

Just because he lost the game we don't need to make up excuses for him.

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the Steph Curry affect

farn said:

Wow. This game is in LA.... was only half-watching and was convinced it was in PIT.

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Yeah, I don't know why they allowed two teams to move into LA. The people there don't seem to care a bit about the NFL.

I would love this ...

Chiefs

@ Broncos L
vs Green Bay L
vs Minnesota L
@ Tennessee W
@ LA (Chargers) W
vs. Oakland W
@ NE L
@ Chicago L
vs. LA (Chargers) W

9-7

Raiders

@ Packers L
@ Texans L
vs. Lions W
vs. Chargers W
vs. Bengals W
@ Jets W
@ Chiefs L
vs. Titans W
vs. Jaguars W
@ Chargers W
@ Broncos L

10 -6

Bills

vs. Dolphins W
vs. Eagles W*
vs. Redskins W
@ Browns L
@ Dolphins W
vs. Broncos W
@ Cowboys L
vs. Ravens L
@ Steelers W*
@ Patriots L
vs. Jets W

11-5

vs. Dolphins W
vs. Colts W
vs. Rams W*
@ Browns L
@ Bengals W
vs. Browns W
@ Cardinals W
vs. Bills L
@ Jets W
@ Ravens L

9-7

BradyFTW! said:

Wilson's got my vote.

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farn said:

Everyone wants to prop up the likes of Goff-Mahomes-Watson-The Cleveland Blamer etc...

The League has a legit star in Seattle. I know not everyone in here liked Wilson, but he’s the guy I’d want if not for Brady. Proven winner.

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I couldn't agree more. Wilson is the real deal and has been for many years. His accuracy on the deep ball is second to none. He is very dangerous and multi-dimensional. He makes his teammates better. He seems to elevate his game when the stakes are the highest. By all accounts, he is true leader.

If these new "Super-star" QBs perform at a high level for several years in a row then okay. But until then, for me, they are simply "fun to watch".

Rushing Stats:
C. Hyde 26 for 116, AVG 4.5, TD 1
D. Watson 10 for 42, AVG 4.2, TD 2
D. Johnson 5 for 34, AVG 6.8, TD 0
Total 41 for 192, AVG 4.7, TD 3

Time of possession:
Texans 39:48 Chiefs 20:12

Wordsmyth said:

I've seen the Chefs' O gain flags every third down after an incomplete pass. If it's rigged, it's in their favor.

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if the league was rigged against them i guess the refs have missed the memo lol that game against indy last week the refs basically did everything they could to give kc a chance to win