Why did this team sign Tebow?

Can't pass, can't read defenses, has to have a special offense created for him wasting everyone else's practice time and will take up a roster spot from someone that could contribute more. As far providing a QB to prepare for the read option, I don't think Belichick had any problems preparing for Tebow. If I see anything more about him as a punt protector, I will vomit.
I am one of the biggest "in bill we trust" guys but Tebow should be cut immediately. He has already become a divisive factor wit fans

p8ryts said:

Can't pass, can't read defenses, has to have a special offense created for him wasting everyone else's practice time and will take up a roster spot from someone that could contribute more. As far providing a QB to prepare for the read option, I don't think Belichick had any problems preparing for Tebow. If I see anything more about him as a punt protector, I will vomit.
I am one of the biggest "in bill we trust" guys but Tebow should be cut immediately. He has already become a divisive factor wit fans

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Do you think BB gives two craps about the fact that he is divisive to the fan base??

the only reason tebow should be cut is because he doesn't have the skill level to make the team as a QB, and we have an abundance of quality options at running back.

There is just no room for tebow on the 53 man roster.

Its really as simple as that. And its not even an issue about the TYPE of offense that he could run(read option) its the simple fact that the read option is only effective when you can complete close to 60% of your throws, and tebow is barely able to hit 50% on a good day.

Tebow just doesn't have an NFL caliber skillset.

JESUS

Between the never ending pitched battle about Tebow then the debate about the calendar and then we get this

What you may not know Joker, is that any post or comment anyone makes on any board is by default copyrighted and you break copyright protocols by not posting a link to what someone says that you quote.

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internet lawyer dumbness

this thread has been amazing and I want to thank everyone who helped make it this entertaining.

fnordcircle said:

JESUS

Between the never ending pitched battle about Tebow then the debate about the calendar and then we get this



internet lawyer dumbness

this thread has been amazing and I want to thank everyone who helped make it this entertaining.

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Maybe BB thought that Patsfans was becoming too stale and needed livening up.

fnordcircle said:

JESUS

Between the never ending pitched battle about Tebow then the debate about the calendar and then we get this



internet lawyer dumbness

this thread has been amazing and I want to thank everyone who helped make it this entertaining.

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As a side note... I gotta say I absolutely love your sig.

manxman2601 said:

Maybe BB thought that Patsfans was becoming too stale and needed livening up.

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So this is BB then?

KontradictioN said:

So this is BB then?

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Kraft and Belichick



And I want to make the observation that GIFs are seriously hypnotic.

chasa said:

the only reason tebow should be cut is because he doesn't have the skill level to make the team as a QB, and we have an abundance of quality options at running back.

There is just no room for tebow on the 53 man roster.

Its really as simple as that. And its not even an issue about the TYPE of offense that he could run(read option) its the simple fact that the read option is only effective when you can complete close to 60% of your throws, and tebow is barely able to hit 50% on a good day.

Tebow just doesn't have an NFL caliber skillset.

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You are forgetting the other half of the read option.... the run. Tebow is one of the better run QBs in this league which makes up for his throwing woes. I don't think the read option has a place in this pass friendly league, but if you are down to your 3rd string QB wouldn't you want someone who can at least move the ball?

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You are forgetting the other half of the read option.... the run. Tebow is one of the better run QBs in this league which makes up for his throwing woes

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No it certainly does not.

I don't think the read option has a place in this pass friendly league, but if you are down to your 3rd string QB wouldn't you want someone who can at least move the ball?

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Absolutely which is why Tebow has to go. Moving the balls backwards technically counts as being moved but that's really not what we're looking for.

WhiZa said:

I don't think the read option has a place in this pass friendly league, but if you are down to your 3rd string QB wouldn't you want someone who can at least move the ball?

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Yep and his name is Julien Edelman...

Tebow Apology Time:

Why is it Tebow is getting all of the blame without consideration for the fact that he's got 10 other guys learning a new offense out there with him? I don't know all of the differences between the read-option and the offense we're used to here but I think it's fair to say that it will take more than 10 days of practice and 1 preseason game for the other 10 guys on the field to get good at running that offense.

His accuracy issues are obvious there's no defending that, but if we had 10 guys out there with him who were more practiced at that offense is there a chance we would have seen more success?

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Yep and his name is Julien Edelman...

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Wow; so you'd rather have Edelman out there if Brady is hurt and Mallet gets injured than Tebow?

If Tebow gets cut, the person who takes his place on the roster likely doesn't play more than a couple of downs; maybe only plays in special teams.

Tebow I think is good for the following normal cases:
Punt Protector / fake punt
2-3 plays a game -- not because I'd rather he be out there than Brady, but I think by having him out there, it makes the defense have to practice / prepare for him so they don't get surprised. Which should have a small, but worthwhile effect during the rest of the game as they'd get less prep.
1st and goal from inside 5 yard line -- the team under brady has been a pass first on goal line team. I'd rather they become a run first team when there's 3-4 chances to punch it in; and Tebow would be a better handoff guy as he poses the thread of misdirection and also passing

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You are forgetting the other half of the read option.... the run. Tebow is one of the better run QBs in this league which makes up for his throwing woes. I don't think the read option has a place in this pass friendly league, but if you are down to your 3rd string QB wouldn't you want someone who can at least move the ball?

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Tim tebow: 5.6 attempts per game, 5.6 avgt 7 fumbles

Cam newton: 7.9 attempts per game 5.7 yards avg 6 total fumbles

Russell wilson: 5.9 attempts per game, 5.2 yards avg 2 fumbles

RG3: 8 attempts per game, 6.8 yards avg 9 fumbles

Colin Kaep: 4.1 attempts per game, 6.4 yards per attempt 7 fumbles

Tebow is behind all but wilson in average yards per rush, but you know what tebow is missing that all of those guys have? 60%+ completion ratings on passes. Saying Tebow can run the ball is great, really its great, but why have him attempt to run it, when the defense knows hes going to run it. He's easy to game plan for, and because of that hes EASY TO STOP.

Tebow is not good enough as a read option qb to take up one of the 53 man roster spots.

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Tim tebow: 5.6 attempts per game, 5.6 avgt 7 fumbles

Cam newton: 7.9 attempts per game 5.7 yards avg 6 total fumbles

Russell wilson: 5.9 attempts per game, 5.2 yards avg 2 fumbles

RG3: 8 attempts per game, 6.8 yards avg 9 fumbles

Colin Kaep: 4.1 attempts per game, 6.4 yards per attempt 7 fumbles

Tebow is behind all but wilson in average yards per rush, but you know what tebow is missing that all of those guys have? 60%+ completion ratings on passes. Saying Tebow can run the ball is great, really its great, but why have him attempt to run it, when the defense knows hes going to run it. He's easy to game plan for, and because of that hes EASY TO STOP.

Tebow is not good enough as a read option qb to take up one of the 53 man roster spots.

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The problem this argument has is those are all starting qbs and not 3rd string. If tebow was vying for a starting role your argument is fair and honestly spot on.

Also its not just about game planning for tebow, its game planning for tb12 and tebow that makes him worth keeping. But that's just my opinion, and in no way do I think they should take out tb12 for tebow anyway. It just seems like the kind of mind games BB would pull.

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Also its not just about game planning for tebow, its game planning for tb12 and tebow that makes him worth keeping. But that's just my opinion, and in no way do I think they should take out tb12 for tebow anyway. It just seems like the kind of mind games BB would pull.

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Ha! Yeah the nightmares it would cause D coordinators, I'm sure they're losing sleep over it. Every one would breath a gigantic sigh of relief the moment Brady went out and Tebow went in. Do you guys actually believe this nonsense? The amount of game planning for Brady is immense, the amount for Tebow and his five plays is minimal.

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Tim tebow: 5.6 attempts per game, 5.6 avgt 7 fumbles

Cam newton: 7.9 attempts per game 5.7 yards avg 6 total fumbles

Russell wilson: 5.9 attempts per game, 5.2 yards avg 2 fumbles

RG3: 8 attempts per game, 6.8 yards avg 9 fumbles

Colin Kaep: 4.1 attempts per game, 6.4 yards per attempt 7 fumbles

Tebow is behind all but wilson in average yards per rush, but you know what tebow is missing that all of those guys have? 60%+ completion ratings on passes. Saying Tebow can run the ball is great, really its great, but why have him attempt to run it, when the defense knows hes going to run it. He's easy to game plan for, and because of that hes EASY TO STOP.

Tebow is not good enough as a read option qb to take up one of the 53 man roster spots.

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I was just about to reply with "No he is not one of the better run QB's in the league" but you beat me to it with the same reasoning (and same names and stats) I was going to use.

And a revolting 3.2 YPC last year running from wildcat formation. Far inferior numbers to Brad Smith who really was a good wildcat QB for the Jets.

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Tebow Apology Time:

Why is it Tebow is getting all of the blame without consideration for the fact that he's got 10 other guys learning a new offense out there with him? I don't know all of the differences between the read-option and the offense we're used to here but I think it's fair to say that it will take more than 10 days of practice and 1 preseason game for the other 10 guys on the field to get good at running that offense.

His accuracy issues are obvious there's no defending that, but if we had 10 guys out there with him who were more practiced at that offense is there a chance we would have seen more success?

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Around here apparently, some people think that players should be able to execute the entire playbook after only 10 days of practice.

Demosthenes said:

Around here apparently, some people think that players should be able to execute the entire playbook after only 10 days of practice.

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That benefit of the doubt is probably the only reason why he wasn't shown the door after a horrific performance the other day against guys who will be bagging groceries in a couple of weeks.

If he doesn't do a lot better next time I suspect he might not get the same courtesy.