New CTE Study

[Joey007]

NBA is where it’s at if you get a pick of where you can play. Not a ridiculous long season and boring sport like baseball but, guaranteed massive contracts and not big injury risk.

But EXTREMELY unlikely to make it. Even less so than the NFL and MLB.

 

[Joey007]

the "athlete" of the future will be video game players

Kill me now

 

[Joey007]

Link: The story behind the experimental collar worn by Luke Kuechly

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I don't see how equipment fixes this

Have a little faith in technological advancements. How many inventions have you seen that you would have once thought to be impossible?

Even if we can never completely wipe away risks, consider this. You risk dying every time you get into a car. Maybe you should stop driving. You risk potential heart disease every time you eat a cheeseburger. Maybe all fatty foods should be banned?

My point? It’s fine to let the public know of risks, but don’t make their choices for them. Let people live and enjoy things in life they want to enjoy.

Hopefully tech advancements can find a way to make the game safe, but if it’s not possible to completely wipe out, at some point you have to accept that there’s risks to everything in life.

 

[mosslost]

Have a little faith in technological advancements. How many inventions have you seen that you would have once thought to be impossible?

Even if we can never completely wipe away risks, consider this. You risk dying every time you get into a car. Maybe you should stop driving. You risk potential heart disease every time you eat a cheeseburger. Maybe all fatty foods should be banned?

My point? It’s fine to let the public know of risks, but don’t make their choices for them. Let people live and enjoy things in life they want to enjoy.

Hopefully tech advancements can find a way to make the game safe, but if it’s not possible to completely wipe out, at some point you have to accept that there’s risks to everything in life.

Part of the point of the article, is that the option to legally play football as a child may go away. In other words it will not be up to the parent, it will be up to the state when it comes to minors.

 

[Joey007]

Part of the point of the article, is that the option to legally play football as a child may go away. In other words it will not be up to the parent, it will be up to the state when it comes to minors.

And I think it’s ridiculous. I personally don’t feel that the state should have that type of control in the manner.

 

[mosslost]

And I think it’s ridiculous. I personally don’t feel that the state should have that type of control in the manner.

the state decides lots of things regarding the safety of minors with even less evidence that the thing itself is harmful which football is clearly becoming. There are a great many things that you cannot legally engage in, until one reaches a certain age.

"Driving a car" is not a good comparison, but we legislate who and when someone can drive, it is not up to the person or their parent when they can drive legally."

 

[Tunescribe]

Have a little faith in technological advancements. How many inventions have you seen that you would have once thought to be impossible?

Even if we can never completely wipe away risks, consider this. You risk dying every time you get into a car. Maybe you should stop driving. You risk potential heart disease every time you eat a cheeseburger. Maybe all fatty foods should be banned?

My point? It’s fine to let the public know of risks, but don’t make their choices for them. Let people live and enjoy things in life they want to enjoy.

Hopefully tech advancements can find a way to make the game safe, but if it’s not possible to completely wipe out, at some point you have to accept that there’s risks to everything in life.

I'll go a step further and suggest that eventually, medical science will discover treatment and perhaps even a cure for CTE.

 

[Joey007]

I'll go a step further and suggest that eventually, medical science will discover treatment and perhaps even a cure for CTE.

Technology is incredible. People seem to only chose to forget that when it has to do with football.

 

[Joey007]

the state decides lots of things regarding the safety of minors with even less evidence that the thing itself is harmful which football is clearly becoming. There are a great many things that you cannot legally engage in, until one reaches a certain age.

"Driving a car" is not a good comparison, but we legislate who and when someone can drive, it is not up to the person or their parent when they can drive legally."

I could possibly see football under the age of 15-16 being regulated in terms of contact, but I find it hard to see HS football being banned.

 

[mosslost]

I'll go a step further and suggest that eventually, medical science will discover treatment and perhaps even a cure for CTE.

really? like when they cure cancer? or dementia? sure, maybe a long long time from now.. but the idea that prevention is the best medicine, will intervene in society, long before anyone has even come close to curing CTE.

 

[mosslost]

I could possibly see football under the age of 15-16 being regulated in terms of contact, but I find it hard to see HS football being banned.

I actually agree with you. They basically are going to have to say something like 15 is the age a kid can play football or something. A lot of these kids start in High School anyway surprisingly.

 

[Kontradiction]

I'll go a step further and suggest that eventually, medical science will discover treatment and perhaps even a cure for CTE.

We will all likely be long gone before that happens. By that time, this will have already done either significant damage to the sport or will outright kill it. I think this is why you see owners specifically looking to maximize current profits without caring much about the future. They seem to know the end is near.

 

[Tunescribe]

really? like when they cure cancer? or dementia? sure, maybe a long long time from now.. but the idea that prevention is the best medicine, will intervene in society, long before anyone has even come close to curing CTE.

Whenever there is big money to be made, solutions tend to arrive more rapidly. I guess I'm more optimistic than you are that CTE won't doom football, that things like the neck collar will take hold and help keep it thriving. Football has been around more than 100 years now and even before these studies came out the effects were known yet the game has grown. It's not like all of a sudden CTE started happening.

 

[Joey007]

I actually agree with you. They basically are going to have to say something like 15 is the age a kid can play football or something. A lot of these kids start in High School anyway surprisingly.

I didn’t play contact until age 13 anyway, so I personally wouldn’t have seen much of a change there.

I think it comes down to letting society decide. Unlike smoking, another practice that involved health risks, football has a lot of good things that it provides for society. It does a lot of good for communities all over the nation.

If risks can at least be decreased with better technology, I think that society will always be willing to accept some perceived risk with the sport.

 

[mosslost]

I didn’t play contact until age 13 anyway, so I personally wouldn’t have seen much of a change there.

I think it comes down to letting society decide. Unlike smoking, another practice that involved health risks, football has a lot of good things that it provides for society. It does a lot of good for communities all over the nation.

If risks can at least be decreased with better technology, I think that society will always be willing to accept some perceived risk with the sport.

The thing that is hard in that article is four teens dead aged 17 , 17 , 18 and 18, 2 directly from incidents on the field, 2 from suicide.. all 4 with extreme CTE after the autopsy...

 

[Angelpats]

Kill me now

I was surprised about video game players too until I got involved with what my kids were watching. There are video game tournaments. The winners were getting millions. It’s a valid sport now and millions of people actually watch others play video games. What happened to the good old days of playing games yourself? I actually think it maybe the future with the sedentary lifestyle our future generations are slowly adopting.

 

[Joey007]

The thing that is hard in that article is four teens dead aged 17 , 17 , 18 and 18, 2 directly from incidents on the field, 2 from suicide.. all 4 with extreme CTE after the autopsy...

Tell me this though. How many out of the millions that play do not end up with these extreme symptoms?

Perceived risk. Give people actual statistical risks of the likelihood of these things happening and then I’m willing to listen.

 

[Joey007]

I was surprised about video game players too until I got involved with what my kids were watching. There are video game tournaments. The winners were getting millions. It’s a valid sport now and millions of people actually watch others play video games. What happened to the good old days of playing games yourself? I actually think it maybe the future with the sedentary lifestyle our future generations are slowly adopting.

I don’t hate the stuff, but if you try to get me to watch E Sports over actual sports, yeah I’ll never do it.

And this comes from someone who classifies as a millennial, so I suppose I am still a part of that future generation.

 

[mosslost]

Tell me this though. How many out of the millions that play do not end up with these extreme symptoms?

most of the Doctors on the subject are basically saying that all football players get CTE. Often it just shows as early dementia.. but it is basically 100 %.

As far the extreme cases, not many. But the two kids who died from on field where TBI events, then died like a week later. Sad and awful to ponder.

 

[Joey007]

most of the Doctors on the subject are basically saying that all football players get CTE. Often it just shows as early dementia.. but it is basically 100 %.

As far the extreme cases, not many. But the two kids who died from on field where TBI events, then died like a week later. Sad and awful to ponder.

So if every player gets CTE like the doctor claims, it makes me wonder: are the vast majority of cases of CTE very mild? How many people have you seen that played football that went on to live normal lives? Too many to count.