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  1. Gumby

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    As loath as I am to broach the subject.......

    Would it in fact for the future of the NFL and best interests of the Patriots be the best outcome if the Dolts actually did win this SB?

    Why you ask, would I want Putz Polian and his collection of over-paid referee-supported, jack-rabbits to actually get a ring??????


    Well, think about it. For the past 2 years the drum-beat has gone on:
    ....'is this finally pay-me-a-ton's year'
    .....and the continuous litany of weird calls in critical games that seem to mysteriously go the Dolts way

    ALL THESE would have NO LIFE OF THEIR OWN ANYMORE.

    Could we actually anticipate a 2008 season where the playing field would be leveled back once Polian gets his chunk of gold??????


    Or would it just be more delicious to see horsey-face crying on the field (.....YET AGAIN.....). I really can't make up my mind. My personal venom just seems to get in the way of thinking logically.
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    There is no scenario or reason that I can think of which would make it preferable for the Polians to win.
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    I agree. Polian does not deserve a championship.
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    Might there be more Polian's if this one gets what he wants? I cannot and will not root for Polian.
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    I can only root for the Bears. I can never support a team that has wined it's way to the top by coercion within the NFL. "It has to be done the old fashion way. You have to Earn It";)
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    Polian said in the usa today, that this team of the colts reminded him of the bills teams he had. I cant imagine how nervous he must be going into this game. I would love to see the Colts fall under Polian..........would love it.
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    Although I would hate to see Polian win, I have to say that with either outcome I would be far from upset.

    Everyone would be touting Peyton as a great QB, blah blah blah, if the Colts win, but there would be a lot of pressure on that team next year, and even less on the Pats.

    If the Bears win it would be sweet.
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    I still can't get over that Polomalu call in 2006's playoffs. As bad as some of the calls were versus New England that officiating was about as clearly biased as it gets.

    As much as I want the Manning feeding to stop - it's still comical to see him lose despite having the deck so clearly stacked in his favor... Imagine if the NFL did that for Brady... He'd have five rings now.
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    Good point brother! One play that finishes the game is the Caldwell mugging in the endzone even after the dropped the two passes. This was perhaps bigger, On the one with about three minutes and now Peyton needs to go for seven instead of three and the Pats defend differently. If that is
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    If that Caldwell mugging with 3 minutes left is Harrison or Reggie Wayne, Polllian gets his call. How many millions agree with that observation!?
    Even if it took the Pats one or two tries to get in, it's even better. Now go get a TD like the Pats need with 1 minute left Peyton, and it isn't as easy when only three is needed, is it?

    The Troy Brown B.S. call as well. We score even a three and we have at the least a full 21 points. How many think they call that on Harrison?

    Why would anyone pull for the Colts when you always play them 15 for them to 11 for you?

    You have to say this about the Pats. Other than the "Tuck", everything the Pats got as far as rings they earned without the refs help. The "Tuck" was payback for the Hamilton/Stabler farce so et tu Raiders!

    All in all, the Pats did not deserve to win that game when Coleman is on the bench instead of rushing and Alexander for crying out loud, is covering anybody! Dean.......Please!!!! How many Pats fans watched in horror as #44 lined up with no one even bumping him on the line before he waltzed down the field for the big one?
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    It is better for the Colts to go ahead and win it now so we can enjoy their fall from grace next season. If there is anything better than watching Peyton denied of a SB championship, it is watching him dethroned like we were on 1/14/06. Don't worry, Peyton will have many more playoff embarrassments to add to his resume.
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    No. I don't want him to get his ring. Period.

    The thought of Polian grinning on the podium....ugh.

    Watching 58,000 Colts fans celebrate our misery was bad enough. I hope they lose. The only part of me satisfied in their winning will be when we pants them in front of a national audience on their "banner raising" Thursday night opener.
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    Agreed, winning will just encourage him to be even more annoying
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    If they get the Lombardi, Pats fans can look no further than their own team for the blame. Fact is that many more people are glad that the Pats didn't win than we would be if the Colts don't win. Sad truths, I know.
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    True. But I really don't care what the masses think, only what myself and other like-minded people (re: www.patsfans.com :D ) think.

    We do have ourselves to blame. I was talking to my buddy on the (longest) ride home (ever), and I said that I would've rather been blown out, because then I could have the peace of mind in knowing that we just didn't belong. The way the game unfolded to going from the highest high (after Asante's pick 6) to the lowest of all lows (watching Peyton run a 2 minute drill to win the game) made me physically ill. Literally. I vomited.

    We blew the game with poor playcalling offensively in the second half, and failure to execute. And that hurts REAL bad.
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    The painful part of the last 2 playoff losses is that the Pats, during the course of the game, make us think that they DO belong, that they aren't as flawed as they've shown and they are recapturing the spirit of the 03/04 Pats....but then they unravel and are exposed as the team that just doesn't do too well against the league's elite. Did we expect THAT much out of a team that was skunked by a 6-10 Dolphin squad in WEEK 14?

    The Pats are 5-9 against winning teams in the last 2 reg seasons, and 1-5 against winning AFC teams outside the division in reg season play. A combined 0-6 against the Broncos and Colts. Good teams, big rivals, playoff contenders, yet ZERO wins to show for it lately. If the Pats want to return to the SB, they have to beat these types of teams in the reg season and not just wait til the playoffs to go into THEIR houses and go against the odds.
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    I just can't bring myself to see Polian involved with a championship. His presence is a dark cloud over the rest of the Colts operation & personnel.
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    I don't know if the Pats will ever again be the 2003/2004 Pats. That said, how many teams would take their own record the last two seasons over the Pats'? Not that many.
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    Keep your head up Dave. NE played like the champions that they are. What many forget (even here) is that NE had played 4 playoff-like games prior to the Indy game (both Jax and TN would have made the playoffs with a win over NE) and three of those were on the road. They were really running on fumes. I lament the missed opportunity as much as anybody, but there is nothing for that team to be ashamed of.

    Think about it. Indy had every advantage. They were far more healthy, they were home for the 4th time in 5 weeks. The only road game was an hour flight away.....

    And it still took them 59 minutes and some dubious officiating to take a lead.
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    Even if they win, Polian is still the eternal loser in my book. Losing 4 SBs, losing opportunities to play for at least two, probably 3, while winning one SB does not make you a winner.

    Winning a SB would merely be a historical footnote on an otherwise miserable, unfulfilling and pathetic career. I wouldn't hire this guy to manage a pee-wee team.
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    Except for the fact that people may want a different team than the Patriots to win, on a national basis, I don't get that the Colts should be more popular than the Patriots. First, domed stadium teams aren't as popular, I don't think. There's nothing like a classic snow game once in a while, and the rest of the elements make it more "football", and the "Autumn Wind", to borrow from a Raiders John Facenda piece. Indoor games suck. Second, for the really casual fans that look at uniforms to decide, the old, dour Colts uniform is boring compared with the Pats uniform. As for city venue, Indianapolis, Indiana vs. New England? All crappy reasons to pick a team, I know, but how many fans decide that way? Anybody have a national map on NFL team allegiances?

    Anyway, let the Colts win and get fat dumb and happy, which coach B never lets happen with our team.
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    I'd say two :(

    Records 2005-2006:

    Indianapolis 29-7 --
    Chicago 26-9 2.5
    New England 25-12 4.5
    Seattle 25-12 4.5
    San Diego 23-10 4.5
    Denver 23-11 5.0

    Not too bad for the #4 seed in the AFC for 2 years. The Pats have remained a top-5 NFL team, but unfortunately somewhere between 2-5.
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    I just hope Belichick gets this team HUNGRY again!
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    It took a while to formulate in my heart who I will be rooting for in the SB. At first I could overlook Darth Polian and figured I would pull for the AFC team as I always do when faced with a similar choice. This is especially true since I think these Colt players have stepped up and played some gutsy football in comparison to Colt teams in the near present.

    But then....I just keep thinking of Polian up on the stand with that cheating grin on his ugly mug. No...I want Polian to go down in flames again. The fact that it would be a loss to a team with Rex Grossman at QB would make it that much sweeter.

    I think I would like Adam Vinitraitor to miss as time expired to ice it for the Bears. I can smile and live with that.
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    Yeah, thanks. I have my head up, but I'm just really hurting. The emotions in that game took so much out of me, especially on the heels of the San Diego game. I know it sounds silly, but I really thought I would pass out during the fourth quarter. It was a billion degrees, I was nervous, and shaking. Luckily, I got to stand the entire game with the coaches' box as a nice wall to lean on, or I would've fallen over. Just...hearing those fools yelling about the refs being on our side, after the PI debacles...Ugh. Not to mention the idiot in front of me who was cussing at his team in the first half, and giddily chuckling about the Super Bowl as they were coming back. I may have been upset, but I never taunted those people when we were ahead, and congratulated them after the game.

    Man, I want that day back. I just know we win that game 7 times out of 10.
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    I can be happy for the Marvin Harrison's and Peyton Manning's and Bob Sanders' of the world -- but I can't root for the Colts simply because their General Manager is as classless and slimy as a GM gets. To make it a yearly occurance where you attempt to manipulate the rules of the NFL to grossly favor your teams style of play because the current rules make it difficult for your team to win, in my book, is cheating. There's no other way to put it.

    So this Patriots fan will be rooting for the Bears. The day Polian leaves Indy -- I'll be okay with that group raising the Lombardi trophy... In fact I'll hope for it (when the Pats get eliminated of course).
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    You make some great points,ones which we can definitely revisit should they win (vomit icon),but for now GO BEARS!! A coltie loss would just be soooo awesome,and Polian can't blame it on us anymore!!:D
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    It would be so delicious to see the Curse of the Colts continue if they lose... that Monkey getting bigger and bigger - and the fact that they will have to jump through some cap hoops to keep Freeney on an already suspect defense really demands that THIS is the year if any.

    If they win, that chip on their shoulder is gone. Peyton has his ring - and in fact, the team that always found a way to lose finally found a way to win. I'll tip my hat to them for getting it done finally. One can't help but look at them like the pre 2004 Red Sox - always a bridesmaid and never a bride.

    so unfortuantely, if they win, a great story line and aspect to the Colts as perpetual losers even as they win in the regular season will be gone.

    It's great drama!
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    The similarities between the 2004 Red Sox and 2006 Colts are actually quite strong.

    In both cases the teams fell far behind to their arch-nemesis only to storm back. The 2006 Patriots had little rest, lots of tough games and a flu bug holding them back. Their weariness allowed Indy's fresher and healthieir legs to prevail. The 2004 Yankees fell victim to a couple rainouts and extra inning games, thus exposing the poor back end of their pitching that otherwise could have been avoided. With any big lead blown, both losing teams can look back at any number of individual plays that would have likely ended the comeback before it got going.

    We shall see if Indy can complete the comparison. I think that they will.
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