With the 1,026th word in his article, the Minister of Propoganda Peter King reveals...

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

In the 1,026th word of his article, King includes the following point. It actually wasn't even worthy of it's own bullet point and was hidden within the point about "A load of circumstantial evidence" and a reference to "the Deflator."

Wasn't there a time when journalists actually cared about what they wrote?

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/11/tom-brady-suspension-patriots-deflategate-punishment/

Yee and his team will clearly bring up the borderline measurement of the Patriots’ footballs at halftime of the AFC Championship Game Jan. 19. Officials used two gauges at halftime. On page 113 of the Wells report, after a description of the scientific Ideal Gas Law, Wells says that the Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.32 psi and 11.52 psi. The average of all 22 readings was 11.30 psi … two-one-hundredths lower what the Ideal Gas Law would have allowed for balls that started the day at the Patriots’ level of 12.5 psi. The Brady camp will surely argue that this case never should have been brought forth because of how close the Patriots’ footballs were to the minimum level.

Nah, not important. Let's fail to bring up the point that it's virtually impossible to deflate a football between 0.002 and 0.200 PSI, which is what the Patriots would have done in order for the reading to show up like this.

 

[BradyFTW!]

All along, this should have been the headline. The fact that it isn't proves how stupid/agenda-driven/hysterical everyone involved is across in the league office, the 'independent' investigation, and in the media.

 

[Deus Irae]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

King as always been a lazy and ignorant writer.

 

[strngplyr]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

Lets also remember that the Patriots' balls were obviously measured first, given that they ran out of time to measure the Colts' entirely, so the Colts' had more time to return to temperature thus "reinflating" their measurements even closer to standards. New Englands' were measure right as halftime began without time to "normalize".

 

[Sicilian]

The more I'm learning about this, the more I'm realizing this PSI rule is like telling drivers the only legal limit for speed is between 60 and 61 MPH. It just seems like an impossible standard to keep consistent.

Edit: I guess a more apt analogy would be the legal range is 55 to 60 MPH, but the guns they use to measure your speed have a 5 MPH margin of error.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

King as always been a lazy and ignorant writer.

You give him way too much credit. It's more like dishonest and sycophantic.

 

[upstater1]

Guys, why are you bagging on the Wells report measurements. The Wells people agree with you:

All of these factors were found to contribute in varying degrees to changes in the internal pressure of footballs. However, given the magnitude of the temperature change that would have affected the footballs at halftime when they were brought from the field to the locker room, a key factor in explaining the difference in measurements between the Patriots and Colts footballs is timing; that is, the change in pressure with time as the footballs were brought from a colder environment (the field) to a warmer environment (the Officials Locker Room) at halftime.

If the Logo Gauge was used pre-game, the Patriots average halftime measurement will match the pressures predicted by the transient curves (with the Colts halftime measurements also matching the predicted range), but only if the testing of the Patriots balls began immediately once the footballs arrived in the Officials Locker Room at halftime and took no more than 4 minutes, and only if the majority of the Patriots game balls were wet. As noted, testing of the Patriots balls is likely to have begun no sooner than 2 minutes and is likely to have taken approximately 4 to 5 minutes. Further, based on statements made to Paul, Weiss (and subsequently conveyed to Exponent) by Patriots ballboys and game officials, we understand that some of the Patriots game balls may have been damp when tested at halftime, but none were waterlogged.

So, this is how I'm interpreting this. First, let me start off with something related but just off to the side. Repeatedly, in the opening pages, the Colts balls are referred to as the Control Group. Why? The reasoning is, there is no suspicion they were tampered with. Why are the Patriots balls suspect? Because the Indy equipment manager said there are rumors of deflated Patriot footballs (Baltimore Ravens kicking balls) and because balls were deflated during the regular season game in Indy (an away game, no McNally!). Still, the Colts balls are the Control Group.

Fundamentally, the statisticians say there is little chance that natural factors would allow for the divergence in readings between the Patriots balls and the Colts balls, and that terefore there is tampering.

BUT, way back in the appendix, you'll find the paragraph above. Oh my God!! It states that if you're using the gauge that Anderson claimed he was using, then the Colts balls and the Patriots balls MESH, if the Patriots balls start being measured when you get to the locker room, and for another 4 minutes, with the Colts balls to follow.

In other words, the divergence emphasized in the written part of the entire Wells Report is completely and totally OBLITERATED if we precede with the idea that Anderson used the gauge he said he used.

NOT ONLY are the Patriots balls within the range with the logoed gauge, but there is NO DISCREPANCY between the Patriots balls and the Colts balls.

EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE GAUGE ANDERSON USED.

 

[Rob0729]

You know how people call Mike Reiss the fourth Kraft son? Peter King is the Xth Goodell son. He is so far up Goodell's butt that Goodell tastes King when he burps.

And even King is vocal about how bad the Wells report is and how there is no real evidence of cheating.

 

[zydecochris]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

Deus, let me agree with your conclusion but state it differently. You are correct that any physics measurement will not be exactly exact, everything in Physics is an approximation (Heisenberg uncertainty principle).

However, the overwhelming reason for the inaccuracies in the ball pressure will be the pressure gauge used, 2/100 psi would be way less than the error tolerance of the football pressure gauges. Plus, every time the gauge needle is inserted a significant amount of air would escape (certainly more than 0.02 psi).

 

[Deus Irae]

Deus, let me agree with your conclusion but state it differently. You are correct that any physics measurement will not be exactly exact, everything in Physics is an approximation (Heisenberg uncertainty principle).

However, the overwhelming reason for the inaccuracies in the ball pressure will be the pressure gauge used, 2/100 would be way less than the accuracy of the football pressure gauges. Plus, every time the gauge needle is inserted a significant amount of air would escape (certainly more than 0.002 psi).

The variances and so-called inaccuracies will also be because of the differences in the wetness of the balls, and the different times the balls are measured, etc... That is even acknowledged in the report.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

SOOOO CLOSE. Sure does make you think that two rain drops were asked to be removed from the simulation, just by coincidence.

 

[ViperGTS]

He was just on WEEI. Sad he didn't think Brady did anything, before couching it by saying there is circumstantial evidence. Kept saying how the gauge Anderson thought he used should be the one to matter. Why Wells would change that is odds I'm I'm. Really? It's not odd. It fits the NFL theory.

 

[hwc]

And, the "wet" that Wells used to determine what a "wet" ball should measure was spraying it with a hand held household spray bottle once every 15 minutes and wiping it off.

I watched the AFC Championship. It had been raining heavily before the game. And, rained during the game enough that the TV cameras had raindrops. The field was soaked. The ball boys were towelling the balls between every play. If this resulted in game balls wetter than you get from Ted Wells misting them with a household spray bottle, then they lose more air pressure.

 

[Ring 6]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

Especially when 2 gauges that the league approved and the scientific testers said worked properly measured .35 to .4 psi differently to begin with.

Just with that fact, a difference of .4 or less has to be considered within the limit you would expect. Otherwise the league is using unacceptable gauges.

 

[zydecochris]

The variances and so-called inaccuracies will also be because of the differences in the wetness of the balls, and the different times the balls are measured, etc... That is even acknowledged in the report.

Agreed.

 

[Haley]

EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE GAUGE ANDERSON USED.

If wrong in gauge, we must ...assuage?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Just to point out, as well:

The Gas law can't give an exact number, because of the inability to control for all the elements involved in that game.

In other words, the 2/100th difference is well within the range of error.

Engineer here

Any competent statistical analysis includes error bars, thingies that show the min/max range of the data points. In this instance owing to the uncertainties of starting psi, etc. which gauges used for which team's balls, etc. the error bars place all measurements within compliance. Then introduce the likelihood that the Colts balls being measured last at the very end of halftime had an extra 10+ minutes to "puff up" in the indoor warmer temp.

Error bars would immediately highlight that science can say nothing about any ball being deflated by a human.

 

[ChoWZa]

The variances and so-called inaccuracies will also be because of the differences in the wetness of the balls, and the different times the balls are measured, etc... That is even acknowledged in the report.

Also by measuring all the Patriots balls, you measure every ball that was actually in circulation by the half, by only measuring 4 colts balls you may not have measured a ball that ever left the bag. So the Patriots balls must have factored in getting wet, being smashed into the ground, being laid on by a few several hundred pounds of football players etc. There is no scientific basis for this for a myriad of reasons all stemming from the lack of protocol on football air pressure maintenance.

 

[Haley]

Measuring 4 balls is not statistically significant in any case. This "science" based on the state of the colts balls is completely anecdotal.