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  1. Pujo

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    I know this doesn't matter a whole lot, but I was surprised to read this:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-ex-patriots&prov=ap&type=lgns

    I remember him shoving another Patriot, I can't recall who, during the Denver playoff game they lost - his last with the team, but I thought that was just frustration. Did he leave on bad terms?
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    That was Izzo
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    When the pats played the Colts, he was talkin the pats up, saying they would win big, so I wouldn't read anything into this.
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    A number of people here thought he was the source who had been qouted as a 'former Patiot' that was bad mouthing the organization. Sound like they might be right.
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    He had nice words to say about the pats earler in the year. The whole "using an expletive to describe his former team" seems a bit odd to me. Not giving the quote or context making it seem like he was talking bad about the Pats. For all we know he said something like "I'm on the Browns, we're fighting for a playoff spot and you want to talk about the f'ing patriots?"
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    No, I distinctly remember Willie. Maybe there were two incidents, I don't know, but there's no question which LB the one I'm thinking of involved.
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    which is?????
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    Izzo is the guy he shoved.
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    It was Willie and Izzo who had the "altercation".
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    That's what I would assume too. Also the realization that even though his team will likely make the playoffs, they are still rendered irrelevant by his former team.
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    Willie was pissed off at the team for not offering him to stay here when he was offered Cleveland
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    I don't think so.

    I think Willie knew his value was greater too Clevland, they needed a veteran leader to show them how to run Romeo's Defense, and they were hoping some of that patriots mystic would rub off on some of the younger players.
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    Big Wilie is a legend, and one of the all time great Patriots. The team cut him and didn't offer a contract, he was forced to go else where and has stuck up for his ex-team on almost every occasion.

    He is being looked at as the veteran voice for a young team that is on the verge of making the playoffs for the first time in a very long time. I don't know the whole context of the quote but based on unsubstantiated speculation I would bet that he is just trying to make sure his team is focused for the final 3 weeks of the season.
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    IIRC, I believe we were said to be "in touch with his people" throughout the process so while we may not have formally offered a contract I think he knew he could have a job with us; however it would have been for far less than he got.
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    Oh, I get it. So... Izzo shoved himself?
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    I don't know about Willie but, Graham sure came off as an a-hole in that piece.
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    Sure does. Although I guess it would be difficult to express too much regret. Amusingly, Branch gets the point across better than Graham whose his comments don't really fit with players who seem to love being Patriots.
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    The Browns gave him twice what he was worth. I love willie, but what kind of a deal has it been for Cleveland?
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    JEEZ....

    sounds like a reporter from Fox News trying to push an agenda here. This is like when reporters with no reporting skill report things like :
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    "SOURCES say that......"
    "there are WHISPERS in the locker room saying ......"
    "SOME are questioning......"
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    B.S.!...all of it

    you've gotta be kidding me with this. Obviously Willie has BIG love for the Patriots. Obviously Willie is on the Browns. Obviously Willie wants to talk about the Browns and their upcoming game and playoff push, NOT the Pats so don't ask him about it.

    ask Rodney Harrison what he thinks about the chances the Chargers have this year. I'm sure he will tell you to go Fukc yourself.
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    Willie shoved Izzo. I don't know the whys and wherefores.
    I think Willie's pride was hurt a bit when the Pats passed on offering a contract 'knowing' that Romeo would pay top dollar for his services. Anyone who has watched Browns games this year knows that Willie is S. L. O. W.

    That being said, he WAS positive regarding the Pats vs the Colts but could also harbor a little resentment towards the Pats org. Guys like Willie forget his year after year of injury missed games during which he was paid top dollar. BB rescued Willie from the Chris Slade scrap heap, not to say that Willie wasn't 10x the player Slade was.
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    I wouldn't read into it too much. No direct quote, and the author can't seem to count either.
    According to him, only 4 players are left from the 2001 team.:singing:
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    just another reason to root for browns loss to bills on sunday. be great to hear all the whiney excuses how the lowly bills ko'd them from the playoffs. mcginnist will blame the patriots! LOL
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    Bad reporting.

    For instance, Graham says, "I'm actually happy that I'm out of there."

    And no one asks him why?

    How hard is it?

    Here: "Why?"

    Graham: "Because they made me stay in and block 95% of the time."
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    Not sure I got that out of it, he made it clear he felt under loved and wanted more hugs even at the possible expense of wins :

    "For the most part, everybody sees all the winning and the glamorous part. It's a lot different when you're there and see how it's operated up there. Everything is not glamorous. It's a business up there and they let that be understood. It's a business."
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    Personally I have no time or interest in any former players turning bittermen. None!! DON'T CARE ONE BIT!!
    BTW Willie went over to ManJudas and put his arm around him after the Browns/Jets game last week. A touching moment!! ;)
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    What does that mean? They cut him on the eave of the CBA being signed which would have provided even more cap space. The message was clear, thanks for the memories, leave your playbook at the door.

    It is business, he didn't slam the team on his way out he just took his rings and left.
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    Other than youth and a few more catches, what does STONE HANDS Graham offer that Kyle Brady doesn't at this point.

    Yeah Dan.....I'm sure it's a business............!

    And when your old and Gray......and your grandkids are asking you to tell them about your NFL days.....I'm sure you'll wax ecstatically about the nice career you had in Denver...:rolleyes:

    Ass.

    Too bad too...

    For less cash.....you could have been legendary.
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    They were never going to not cut him at that salary. But if he'd have come back for $1M or so, I have little doubt they'd have taken him. Just like Troy and Seau are playing for.
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    A total non-issue.
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    Willie knew he was gone before the season ended in 2005. Anyone who has tape of that game will see him hugging everyone at the end of the game. Crennel took him but I guess Belichick was okay with it.

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