DaBruinz said:
You've attempted to claim the following:
Drafting Solder will define BB's Personnel moves.-YET TO BE PROVEN
The Patriots haven't been loyal to Light-NOT PROVEN, NOT DISPROVEN
Solder was the highest pick used by the Patriots in the last few drafts-FACT
2011 #17
2010 #27
2009 #33
2008 #10-3 years is a few!!
That Otis Smith and Anthony Pleasant were JAGS-street FA=JAGS
That the youngsters don't have the motivation to win-NOT THE SAME
That the Patriots have never used such a high pick and not started him immediately-Seymour started 10 games, Warren 4, Mayo every game. DL are notedly rotated.
You can SAY alot of things to try and win your side of the arguement but you havent proven a thing. Your list of my claims, just look at it. The only things I cant prove positive you cant prove negative, they are opinions to which time may tell. Yes the Brady/Bledsoe hopefully will define him, but you have to admit picking a LT that high with Light in FA sends a clear message. Maybe Solder becomes a decent player, maybe even a better player, but at that position all we need is 1 bad play and our season is effectively over. Its proper to be so concerned about both the position and the makeup of the locker room as the 2 can be linked. And besides dont forget this board is all about entertainment, we are allowed to think aloud, propose hypothetical trades, switch players positions and bash on a great coach. As long as there is room for improvement(no SB in 6+ years!) it shouldnt be any kind of detriment. Simply put, your opinion simply isnt better than mine, facts are facts, and if you dont like playing in my sandbox go find another one!
{NOTE: I put your replies to me in red since you can't be bothered}
Jeff - Why is it that you continue your BS spin game? The entire premise of your OP was BS. And that premise was that the drafting of Solder would define BB's personnel moves. Sorry, but anyone with a brain knows that BB's personnel moves were defined by him chosing Brady over Bledsoe to lead this team in November 2001.
As for the rest:
The Patriots have proven themselves loyal to Matt Light since they were the ones who approached him prior to his 6 year deal about signing the deal. And they let him play it out. They also approached him prior to the end of said 6 year deal about an extension and he let them know he was going to test free agency. For you to say that doesn't prove that the Pats loyal to Light is just absurdity.
There were only 2 years between the pick of Mayo and the Pick of Solder. 2 is a couple. Not a few.
Otis Smith and Anthony Pleasant were NOT street free agents when they were signed by the Pats in 2000. Again, with the facts. And JAG does not equal street free agent. Before you go making a ridiculous claim that a guy who is cut is a Street Free Agent, that's not entirely true. Street free agents are the guys cut after the season has started. Pleasant was a UFA and Smith was cut during training camp in 2000 by the Jets.
Regarding the previous draft picks, your claim was that Solder had to start right away. My claim was that he didn't and could be rotated in. I used Wilfork, Warren, and Graham as my examples of previous draft picks who did not start immediately for the Pats. You mentioning Mayo and Seymour doesn't do anything for you. Ignoring Graham and Wilfork only proves the point that Oswlek mentioned. That you cherry pick your facts.
I have proven many things in this thread, Jeff. And no, picking a LT at 17 with Light as a UFA doesn't send any message other than to say, we want you back, but we'll move off if we have to.
What you fail to remember, Jeff, and I know it's been told to you several times, is that any time you post, you are entitled to the responses you get . It's the other edge of the double-edged sword called the 1st Amendment. Most people forget that.
BTW, this board is my sandbox. If you don't like it, follow your own advice.
