Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by PatriotDynasty_12, Dec 5, 2008.
I'm assuming not this week, probably next week?
Sunday. Take it to the bank.
I am guessing this week but if not defintely next week.
he will play this week. Why wait, there is like 4 games left.
well if woods is out. bruschi, guyton and mayo are ILB with vrabel at OLB i'm guessing guyton gets to move to OLB.
either seau plays or colvin or both. i'm guessing a few snaps of each one.
i know we've had injuries in the past but this is becoming absurd.
I never go to the bank on Sunday.
"I play when I want to play"
I expect that Junior will want to play Sunday
Isn't that Randy Moss' line?
Seriously, how could he NOT be playing this week? We are desperate to run the table and there are only 4 games left. What exactly would we be saving him for?
Sunday, and he'll go surfing after the game.
As much as I hate how we let our LB corps get old, I love Seau and his energy and enthusiasm for the game.
You know I love all our old linebackers, but damn, we're depending on former free agents and 40 year old men here.
For a defense that was too complicated for college players to learn, we sure put ourselves in a position of living or dying with one high drafted rookie pick here.
Hate to live in the past, but we screwed up. We should have at least 2 three year veterans with talent ready to move in now.
It's nice to hit on an undrafted free agent once in a while. It's not a good business plan.
I don't like when the age of our LBs gets up there either. I still think giving rookies significant playing time on defense is a great, and the best, way for them to learn. But at this point injuries are starting to really take their toll on the defense and Colvin (who is not that old) and Seau have been brought in to not only help that but ease our new LBs' evolution. Mayo should benefit A LOT from playing next to Seau and Bruschi as they are a wealth of knowledge. It's not the best that you could hope for (as in a Steeler type of defense) but they are guys that know the system inside and out and can still compete at a high level. The only major concern is how bad Colvin's injury is but he obviously passed the physical to play. I'm pretty confident our pass rush can at least improve with him and Seau has always been a run stuffer.
EDIT: I now realize I didn't answer the OP's question. I think both of them will play Sunday.
isn't it always closed?
You don;t have any Commerce Banks near you?/ Or TD Bank now,,,,,,
Jr could play Sunday, he's knows this defense so well.
I think you miss my point and I don't like to look to the past or say I told you so but...
Of course we'll play any vet we can. Of course we'll throw rookies in there, what choice do we have?
When It comes to playing rookies, we needed to draft and play some quality rookies 2-3 years ago so they would be ready now.
Will Mayo develop some bad habits? It really doesn't matter, we need to depend on him because he's the only young high pick we've drafted in 8 years. The future is now, in other words.
There are 4 healthy LBs going into Sunday's game besides the 2 signed this week.
Do you think one or two of the 4 will need a break?
I agree that I can't fathom how exactly this state of affairs came about, but, to be fair, it's not that BB flat-out refused to take linebackers high. I know he said he would have taken Jonathan Vilma if he had been available when the Pats picked that year, and they were apparently trying to move up last year to get Stewart Bradley (although I'm not about to complain too much about the outcome of not getting him--pick #40 or so in this year's draft).
They had a business model whereby they would take castoffs from Pitt, Ravens and Bears (at least they actually did). Works great when you can get them.
I looked and I can't say we've blown 1st rounders much, although our offensive picks were much more questionable in that area. 2nd rounders too.
Fact is they needed to develop quality young linebackers and didn't do it. There's the draft and FA.
Is Woods a starter, or another TBC? Not proven in my mind. Meanwhile we're going to be throwing in undrafted FAs and Mayo and hoping for the best in future years.
With all the 1st and 2nd round picks, we're fielding Moss, Gaffney and Welker and anybody that shows up at running back. Watson? I guess for a low 1st, but I wouldn't mind taking flyers on day two TEs and looking at LBs available in that spot.
Hey, I'm a moron. I couldn't run a draft to save my life (probably do better than Grier but...). Just wondering if we would be better off looking for WR and RBs in trade or lower rounds and stocking up on high round LBs and DBs for a change.
The simple fact of the matter is that you cannot draft at or near the top of the order every year and in a couple of years have enough draft picks to fill every void in your defense. Plus, in the past, the offense was hurting a lot more than the defense besides TFB so I can understand why a lot of high picks went to that area. As it turns out, the offense was solved through free agency and not the cheap, preferred way, through the draft. Give it some time. It looks like the draft this past year was stout defensively and we should be spending the majority of the draft picks on defensive positions again next year.
Sure it's revisionist history, but a change in philosophy might be in order. Things change.
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