Wes Walker -- worth a second round pick?

[JackBauer]

Henderson signed an extension with the Vikings. I think it was like 5 or 6 years.

Your list also didn't have Jarrett Johnson, UFA from the Ravens who might be a better long term ILB option than London Baker-Fletcher.

Jarrett Johnson is someone I would like the Patriots to take a look at.

I think I would tear my hair out if forced to hear "Fletcher-Baker" for an entire season.

 

[patchick]

Your list also didn't have Jarrett Johnson, UFA from the Ravens who might be a better long term ILB option than London Baker-Fletcher.

Jarrett Johnson is my major target too. He seems like the perfect candidate to be what Monte Beisel was supposed to be.

 

[ATippett56]

He seems like the perfect candidate to be what Monte Beisel was supposed to be.

Please! No more references to Monty Beisel.

 

[PonyExpress]

Didn't Wes Walker retire from the Jets back in the 1980s?

 

[JoeSixPat]

We have plenty of guys who can average 10 yards per catch. I'm perfectly happy with them. Volume of catches means little to a team that spreads the ball like we do.

We need someone who averages 18 yards per catch - i.e. a legitimate deep threat.

Having only another slot receiver will only encourage defenses to collapse further.

People think those critical of the team WRs last year are looking at past years through rose colored glasses. But David Patten averaged 18 yards per catch in 2004. Even 2005 saw Tim Dwight at 17.5, Andre Davis at 21 yds per catch - and you don't need to have 5 catches a game to keep Defenses honest either.

Our deepest "threat" this year was Dave Thomas at 14 yards per catch for just a handful of receptions. Caldwell, Gaffney and Watson were at 12 and 13 yrds per catch. Is it any wonder Defenses felt they could collapse, putting added pressure on the short pass, running game, and on the QB without fear of getting burnt?

You might say that 5 yards per catch doesn't make a difference. It does, because we're just talking averages here - what shows up as a 5 yard per catch average is usually the result of a good number of deep passes that keep the Defense honest, and keep the Safeties where they belong, in the backfield.

 

[cstjohn17]

Something to think about. Bam Childress got passed up by Kelvin Kight. Bam has been in the system for 3 years and Kight passed him up in less than half a season. I think that its high time to give up on the Bam Childress feel good story.

I agree, Bam is a nice story but is not explosive enough to offer value in the return game and is too small to play in kicking coverage. Kight offers more value because he can play STs and is a much more physical blocker in the running game.

Original question - 2nd rounder for Welker. No, doesn't make sense to outbid the Dolphins and give up a 2nd rounder. In theory our 2nd rounder should be a top 50-60 player and will be signed for 4 years. The WR position is apparently pretty deep, we should be able to get a 40 catch guy for a whole lot less money if that is the direction they go in with the 2nd round pick.

 

[PatsWorldChamps]

Please! No more references to Monty Beisel.

can we reference his hot wife?

 

[ATippett56]

According an individual on this message board, members of the New England Patriots scouting department were seen talking to the following individual at the Senior Bowl practices:

Name: Chris Davis
College: Florida State Number: 5
Height: 5-10 Weight: 180
Position: WR Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2007
40 Time: 4.50 40 Low: 4.48 40 High: 4.53
Projected Round: 7 Stock:
Rated number 34 out of 289 WR's 269/2341 TOTAL

Overview

Chris Davis is a clutch receiver who might lack ideal size that you look for in a NFL receiver, but he is a precise route runner who has also proven to be a capable punt returner and a dangerous runner on the reverse. He shows the suddenness needed to elude defenders after the catch and has a keen eye for defensive schemes.

Chris selected Florida State over Florida, Miami, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame and Southern California in 2002, but missed that season due to a knee injury. Despite playing mostly as a reserve in 2003, he ranked third on the team with 23 receptions for 264 yards (11.5 avg) and two touchdowns. He gained 15 yards on four carries (3.8 avg), recorded one tackle and returned twelve punts for 111 yards (9.2 avg).

As a sophomore, Davis finished sixth on the team with 228 yards and a touchdown on fourteen catches (16.3 avg). He was held to 6 yards on eight carries and managed only 26 yards on eight punt returns (3.2 avg) in 2004. Chris took over flanker duties in 2005, as he led the squad with 51 receptions for 666 yards (13.1 avg) and five touchdowns. He ran five times for 21 yards (4.2 avg) and registered one solo tackle.

Davis started six of ten games (team opened with a two-tight end formation in four contests) in 2006. He leads the team with 37 catches for 527 yards (14.2 avg) and four touchdowns. He collected 18 yards on three carries (6.0 avg) and 201 yards on 23 punt returns (8.7 avg).

In 48 games at Florida State, Davis started 19 times. He caught 125 passes for 1,685 yards (13.5 avg) and twelve touchdowns. Chris rushed 20 times for 60 yards (3.0 avg) and had 43 punt returns for 338 yards (7.9 avg). He recorded two solo tackles and amassed 2,083 all-purpose yards, touching the ball 188 times.

Analysis

Compares To: TROY WALTERS-Indianapolis-Davis is a slippery runner with good acceleration in the open, but once a defender gets a piece of him, the battle is usually over. He is a fearless sort, though, who will go vertical to make the tough catch. Like Walters, he shows some adequate return skills and is capable of gaining positive yardage on the reverse due to his cutback ability.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Even with Welker signed up now, I wouldn't mind seeing Davis on Day 2 of the draft. He fits the profile of Pats system receivers and had a very good showing at the combine.

According an individual on this message board, members of the New England Patriots scouting department were seen talking to the following individual at the Senior Bowl practices:

Name: Chris Davis
College: Florida State Number: 5
Height: 5-10 Weight: 180
Position: WR Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2007
40 Time: 4.50 40 Low: 4.48 40 High: 4.53
Projected Round: 7 Stock:
Rated number 34 out of 289 WR's 269/2341 TOTAL

Overview

Chris Davis is a clutch receiver who might lack ideal size that you look for in a NFL receiver, but he is a precise route runner who has also proven to be a capable punt returner and a dangerous runner on the reverse. He shows the suddenness needed to elude defenders after the catch and has a keen eye for defensive schemes.

Chris selected Florida State over Florida, Miami, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame and Southern California in 2002, but missed that season due to a knee injury. Despite playing mostly as a reserve in 2003, he ranked third on the team with 23 receptions for 264 yards (11.5 avg) and two touchdowns. He gained 15 yards on four carries (3.8 avg), recorded one tackle and returned twelve punts for 111 yards (9.2 avg).

As a sophomore, Davis finished sixth on the team with 228 yards and a touchdown on fourteen catches (16.3 avg). He was held to 6 yards on eight carries and managed only 26 yards on eight punt returns (3.2 avg) in 2004. Chris took over flanker duties in 2005, as he led the squad with 51 receptions for 666 yards (13.1 avg) and five touchdowns. He ran five times for 21 yards (4.2 avg) and registered one solo tackle.

Davis started six of ten games (team opened with a two-tight end formation in four contests) in 2006. He leads the team with 37 catches for 527 yards (14.2 avg) and four touchdowns. He collected 18 yards on three carries (6.0 avg) and 201 yards on 23 punt returns (8.7 avg).

In 48 games at Florida State, Davis started 19 times. He caught 125 passes for 1,685 yards (13.5 avg) and twelve touchdowns. Chris rushed 20 times for 60 yards (3.0 avg) and had 43 punt returns for 338 yards (7.9 avg). He recorded two solo tackles and amassed 2,083 all-purpose yards, touching the ball 188 times.

Analysis

Compares To: TROY WALTERS-Indianapolis-Davis is a slippery runner with good acceleration in the open, but once a defender gets a piece of him, the battle is usually over. He is a fearless sort, though, who will go vertical to make the tough catch. Like Walters, he shows some adequate return skills and is capable of gaining positive yardage on the reverse due to his cutback ability.