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  1. Patsfanin Philly

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    As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Could the Patriots be the #2 seed right now? With Balt. Den and NE all at 9-3, the tie breaker is head to head sweep and then conference record. NE lost to Balt but beat Den and Den faces Balt in 2 weeks. The next tie breaker is conference record and NE is 8-1, Balt is 8-2, Den 6-2. It could change if Balt beats Den but as of now……the way I read it, the Pats are #2 ......
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Nope Baltimore.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Not until Baltimore loses again. Head-to-head tiebreaker. Let's hope RG3 is up to the challenge next week.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    They got the tiebreaker thanks to the the replacements.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    That must be a mistake. They still have the tie breaker on us.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Hey Danny - ever thought you're the one that's mistaken bro?
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Pats are #2 right now, we win the THREE WAY tie with Ravens and Broncos.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Nope, it's a three way tie so that doesn't come into effect
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Pats win the tiebreaker based on conference record. They have one AFC loss (Ravens), while the Ravens (Steelers, Texans) and Broncos (Pats, Texans) each have two AFC losses.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    As I understand it, they are the #2 seed because there's a 3 way tie for the spot between Denver, NE, And Bmore. The first tiebreaker is head to head IF one team has swept the others, since Bmore and DEN hasn't played yet this tiebreaker is not applicable. So it goes to the next step which is conference record, which we had.

    So we are the 2 seed as of now, but we still don't OFFICIALLY control our own destiny. If Bmore and us win out, Bmore will be the 2 seed because they will have beaten DEN and will therefore get the tiebreaker on head to head matchups. So at the time we have the #2 seed but that is kind of misleading because we still do need help, which we should get.
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    I thought Pats would be 3rd Seed and Ravens would be 2nd as of now because Ravens beat us head2head. What is 1st tie breaker if tied between Pats/Ravens?
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Right. Baltimore is going to have earned that #2 seed if they win out, though. Redskins, Broncos, Giants, Bengals.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Yep, that is how ESPN has it right now. The 3 way tiebreak is based on winning conference % after head to head among the 3 teams.

    2012 NFL Playoff Standings - National Football League - ESPN

    Pats: 3 AFC games left
    Baltimore: 2 AFC games left
    Denver: 4 AFC games left

    If all teams win out (which is not possible as Den plays Baltimore).

    Pats 11-1 = .916%
    Baltimore = 10-2 = .83%
    Denver = 10-2 = .83%

    Pats control their own destiny as long as Baltimore doesn't beat Denver.

    Once the 3 way tie is broken it goes down to head to head, which we win over Denver, and lose to Ravens.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    No, we need Baltimore to lose 1 more and we need Houston to lose 2, and specifically one to us...
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    Two way ties are head to head. Three way or more ties are conference record.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    @wash, and @ Cinn and all 4 teams with something to play for......
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    Can't use head to head when there are 3 teams with the same record. I beleive in this case it's record vs. common opponents and then conference record, or vice versa.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    It sure don't looke good for them right now. That's a brutal 4 game stretch.
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    WRONG. From the ESPN Playoff Machine explanation on tiebreakers:

    "2nd Seed - New England
    AFC East Champ
    Wins tie break over Denver and Baltimore based on best win percentage in conference games.
    3rd Seed - Baltimore
    AFC North Champ
    Wins tie break over Denver based on best win percentage in conference games."

    2012 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios - ESPN
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    The Pats clinching their division gives them the #2 seed for now. Not conference record or head-to-head.

    And for those wondering, head-to-head ALWAYS trumps conference record.
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    The only common opponent between the Pats, Ravens, and Broncos is the Texans. The Pats have not played the Texans yet, so the next tiebreaker (conference record) is used.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    So the Pats need to win out and, really, hope Denver wins out too. Kind of weird, but ok.
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    This. I thought head to head trumped, but I guess I wasn't thinking about a three way tie.
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    Unfortunately, being the #2 seed today means nothing. There are still 5 weeks to play. Talk to me then.

    I think the Ravens will be out of the bye race by then and it will be the Pats. Texans, and Broncos fighting for those two byes.
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    Re: As of now, are the Pats the #2 seed????

    Guess I am wrong in a three way tie scenario.
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