- Joined
- Oct 10, 2004
- Messages
- 33,218
- Reaction score
- 44,411
Registered Members experience this forum ad and noise-free.
CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I read someplace that almost none of that money is guaranteed and the cap hit for next year if they cut him would be minimal. Plus it would give the Vikings some serious cap room. Peterson might have made it much easier PR wise for the Vikes to cut him and save all that salary and cap room. He is a great back, but when was the last time the team with the leading rusher in the NFL even made it to the Superbowl?
Here is the article about the cap consequences:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...adrian-peterson-wont-be-a-viking-much-longer/
I realize I'm taking an unpopular opinion here. Perhaps it's just how jaded I am with media. After all, 5 months ago John McCain was posing for photographs with ISIS, and all of television was demanding we arm them against the Syrian government, and Obama was the great appeaser for not giving them stinger missiles and attack helicopters, and now they're suddenly the greatest threat America has ever seen, and we should be engaged militarily against them at once.
I'm hesitant to believe a single narrative that ever comes from the news, whether it be political news, sports news, or whatever.
I'm also not one to come running to the defense of celebrities when they come out with their often carefully crafted public statements.
That said, I think Adrian Peterson is telling the truth when he says he didn't intend to mark up his son that bad and hurt him to that degree. I do not think, as of now, that this is a situation anywhere remotely close to the level of child abuse that goes on elsewhere and everywhere. This isn't torture and this isn't (or doesn't seem to be) a case of sadism, which IS the case in bad child abuse scenarios.
So the question becomes: Is this something Adrian Peterson should be thrown out of the league for?
Or is this something the legal system should handle by itself before the NFL deals out its own justice?
I realize the kid is 4 years old, so I'm not trying to draw apple and orange comparisons here, but if your rebellious teenage son calls his mother a "dumb *****" one day, and you grab him and throw him against a wall, and during that process he slams his hip against a table kind of awkwardly, and leaves a really bad bruise, should you lose YOUR job? Should CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, ESPN, NFL Network and every poster on this forum come into your home to pass judgement?
Or should the court system determine what exactly it's dealing with first?
This is really not a Ray Rice situation or an Aaron Hernandez situation. This really is it's own.
I realize I'm taking an unpopular opinion here. Perhaps it's just how jaded I am with media. After all, 5 months ago John McCain was posing for photographs with ISIS, and all of television was demanding we arm them against the Syrian government, and Obama was the great appeaser for not giving them stinger missiles and attack helicopters, and now they're suddenly the greatest threat America has ever seen, and we should be engaged militarily against them at once.
I'm hesitant to believe a single narrative that ever comes from the news, whether it be political news, sports news, or whatever.
I'm also not one to come running to the defense of celebrities when they come out with their often carefully crafted public statements.
That said, I think Adrian Peterson is telling the truth when he says he didn't intend to mark up his son that bad and hurt him to that degree. I do not think, as of now, that this is a situation anywhere remotely close to the level of child abuse that goes on elsewhere and everywhere. This isn't torture and this isn't (or doesn't seem to be) a case of sadism, which IS the case in bad child abuse scenarios.
So the question becomes: Is this something Adrian Peterson should be thrown out of the league for?
Or is this something the legal system should handle by itself before the NFL deals out its own justice?
I realize the kid is 4 years old, so I'm not trying to draw apple and orange comparisons here, but if your rebellious teenage son calls his mother a "dumb *****" one day, and you grab him and throw him against a wall, and during that process he slams his hip against a table kind of awkwardly, and leaves a really bad bruise, should you lose YOUR job? Should CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, ESPN, NFL Network and every poster on this forum come into your home to pass judgement?
Or should the court system determine what exactly it's dealing with first?
This is really not a Ray Rice situation or an Aaron Hernandez situation. This really is it's own.
Personally I dont think you can dismiss the fact that he is 4 years old, because that is what makes it even more horrific.
And you don't break the skin numerous times without 'intending' to.
Well, here's the thing. It's a `switch` They mark up the skin. Just like belts do, and lots of people use belts, and, in the south, lots of people use thin little branches (apparently) As I said earlier in this thread, I used to get the wooden spoon. I don't remember any time I got it that bad, but maybe if CNN was on scene to take photos of my ass in a certain light, right after it took a whuppin', maybe my Mother would look like a complete monster that she certainly WAS NOT, and this is what I mean by immediately latching on to media narratives.
Yes, the pictures look bad, but the pictures are seen in a complete vacuum. Maybe, just maybe, if we had elevator footage of Peterson disciplining his child, it would look horrible, or, maybe, just maybe, it wouldn't look much different than what goes on in many homes, which I would consider stern parenting more so than "child abuse."
This is why I believe this is a situation for the legal system to get to the bottom of, rather than a lynch mob with a photograph given to them by the almighty television.
What the NFL should do in case like this is subject to an intense debate, because there are many facets to that dynamic.
Whether this was child abuse is not subject to debate, even if we cite other cases of child abuse and say it happens all the time.
Thank you, Tedy Bruschi:
http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...y-back/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
"........Violence, it’s a terrible excuse not to use your mind, not to think, not to find another alternative, not to find another way to solve a problem that you may have in your life. It’s just a shame to almost be a former player in the NFL right now with some of the issues having to dealt with....."
Yes, the pictures look bad, but the pictures are seen in a complete vacuum. Maybe, just maybe, if we had elevator footage of Peterson disciplining his child, it would look horrible, or, maybe, just maybe, it wouldn't look much different than what goes on in many homes, which I would consider stern parenting more so than "child abuse."
but maybe if CNN was on scene to take photos of my ass in a certain light, right after it took a whuppin', maybe my Mother would look like a complete monster that she certainly WAS NOT, and this is what I mean by immediately latching on to media narratives.
Those photos are of a 4 year old's thighs.
Its being reported that the child was also struck on his back, his ankles, and his butt -to say nothing of the strike(s) that got him in the scrotum.
Again, I'm not defending AP. I'm defending the possibility that he isn't what we're being told he is.
Again, the possibility that he isn't what we're being told he is. I really don't understand why due process in this situation is so taboo. It appears he went overboard. It seems that even he understands he went overboard. Does this automatically make him a "child abuser?" Is he a danger to his children? Does he need to be thrown in prison for 20 years, exiled from the NFL, and forever forbidden from seeing his children again until they are over the age of 18 years old?
If you think you can answer any of those questions justly with a photograph and a television narrative, my position is simply that you're wrong. Adrian Peterson has been a father for X amount of minutes, hours, days and years, and we have two photographs and a news story with which to pass supreme judgement on all of it.
That's just not enough for me to march into his living room with decrees that will ruin his life and family before I go on on my merry way.
The courts aren't going anywhere.
BTW, the Vikings cut AJ Jefferson the day he was arrested for domestic violence. So not only would the average person most likely be fired if they were arrested for what Peterson was arrested for, so would scrub NFL players.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...se-a-j-jefferson-after-monday-morning-arrest/
OTOH, the Patriots did not cut Julian Edelman after his 2011 arrest.