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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.what no one is thinking is we go through DB`s at a alarming rate.BB/FO always have a budget for a set position.If you pay asante then will we be okay to not use 15 DB`s and use 4-5 DB`s as they spend all alloted money on asante.
From the last 5 yrs it should tell us that , 1 CB however good is not better than 5-6 avg CB due to our injury history.That is a gamble as if we pay him andm he plays for 3 full yrs withot any injury we are good or else we are screwed as we will no money to hire 10 DB`s over the season.
If we do not sigh and have some dough ...look for a offer made in end 2007 year to Mr Ty Warran as his contract ends in 08 as they did with dan koppen.
Great point. Samuel is not worth the money if the team is forced to carry 10 defensive backs like it typically does. That would force us to sacrifice quality at other positions.
Franchise and trade Samuel. Bring in a couple of vets to upgrade over Gay and Scott, then bring in a day 1 rookie to compete.
what no one is thinking is we go through DB`s at a alarming rate.BB/FO always have a budget for a set position.If you pay asante then will we be okay to not use 15 DB`s and use 4-5 DB`s as they spend all alloted money on asante.
From the last 5 yrs it should tell us that , 1 CB however good is not better than 5-6 avg CB due to our injury history.That is a gamble as if we pay him andm he plays for 3 full yrs withot any injury we are good or else we are screwed as we will no money to hire 10 DB`s over the season.
If we do not sigh and have some dough ...look for a offer made in end 2007 year to Mr Ty Warran as his contract ends in 08 as they did with dan koppen.
I would franchise Samuel. His agent seemed to threaten that Samuel would be "unhappy" if he gets the franchise tag, implying that the Pats might not get a committed player playing at 100% under those circumstances in 2007. Knock yourself out, 'Zant. Samuel does not have a resume that can survive a down year in 2007 if he plays like an "unhappy" man. A down year would degrade his open market value. The Pats have the upperhand here. Franchise him in 2007, franchise him again in 2008 and trade him for a 1st rdr. Use the money you save by trading him to help sign Ty Warren to a long term deal.
Maybe I'm wrong, which wouldn't be a surprise. Did the franchise rules change, so you can't franchise a player 2 years in a row? If so, the MoLewis scenario seems best.
We all thought Branch didn't have the resume to survive a holdout - the player always has the upper hand. If they tag him to play, and he agrees to to sign the tag, they are on the hook for almost $8M. If he goes down, or gets dinged and is reluctant to play through it and risk further injury while playing under a tag, they are effectively screwed. If he sits out - which he could do as a franchise player because unlike Branch's situation the sit out gets him to UFA, they get nothing but a comp pick now in 2009. He won't come in in week 10 for $3M because that would allow them to rinse, spin and repeat the same cycle. Belichick wouldn't do that dance with Deion, and he isn't gonna do it with Asante. He will want value for him either on the roster or in trade.
If they can't get a deal done, and it's a good bet they can't given how far apart they were in November when the buzz on Asante was just a murmur, tag and trade him for what should be a pretty decent package of picks and use the $6-8M you don't have to spend on him to improve both the secondary and areas that take pressure off the secondary. That is the Belechick model.
There's a huge difference between sitting out half of a modest rookie-contract year and sitting out half of a nearly $8-million year. Nobody sits out on that kind of money. Skipping off-season programs and minicamps, sure. Maybe even TC. But that's an enormous payday to skip...and remember, he's playing for his next contract. Don't want to risk starting the season out of shape/practice and getting injured.
The CB pool is weak in both FA and the draft this year. Teams are flush with cash. It will be very, very hard to sign Samuel to a long-term deal. But the franchise tag is a no-brainer.
Im so sick and tired of this topic. Yes we should sign him, hes worth it. Hes our future at CB. Plaese God let there not be another post about this topic. Please god.
Should we really sign him?
Is he worth it??
Is he our future at the position??
This is the debate and there will be dozens more posts because this is really a tough call.
I think all we can do is rely on BB/SP to not lose sight of the Patriots model and do the right thing as in whatever is BEST for the TEAM.
Whatever they decide, I am with them.
I still even think, in the long run, Deion Branch was handled the only way they could have after the agent )IMHO) was less than honest or fair with them.
Sorry dude, until Assante's situation is resolved - get used to numerous posts.
I also do not think it will drag on for any where near as long as Deions that for sure, for one thing, Assante did it the right way and this is his time.