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    Finished....just in time for Chicago to trade Briggs and screw up everything. Patriots summary will be at the bottom for quick reference. I hope this formats OK

    1 Oakland – Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
    2 Detroit – Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
    3 Cleveland – Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
    4 Tampa Bay – Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin
    5 Arizona – TRADE to Miami (1st, 4th & 7th for MIAs 1st & 2nd) JeMarcus Russell QB Lousiana St
    6 Washington – Gaines Adams DE Clemson
    7 Minnesota – Laron Landry S Louisiana St
    8 Atlanta (from Houston) – Amobi Okoye DT Louisville
    9 Arizona (from Miami) – Alan Branch DT Michigan
    10 Houston (from Atlanta) – Levi Brown OT Penn St
    11 San Francisco – Patrick Willis LB Mississippi
    12 Buffalo – Leon Hall CB Michigan
    13 St. Louis – Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas
    14 Carolina – Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
    15 Pittsburgh – Adam Carriker – DE Nebraska
    16 Green Bay – Greg Olsen TE Miami
    17 Jacksonville – Reggie Nelson S Florida
    18 Cincinnati – Chris Houston CB Arkansas
    19 Tennessee – Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
    20 New York Giants – Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana St
    21 Denver – Joe Staley OT Central Michigan
    22 Dallas – Brandon Meriweather S Miami
    23 Kansas City – Dwayne Jarrett WR Southern Cal
    24 New England (from Seattle) – TRADE to Tampa Bay (1st for 2nd and
    2008 2nd & 4th) Marshawn Lynch RB California
    25 New York Jets – Justin Harrell DL Tennessee
    26 Philadelphia – Ted Ginn WR Ohio St
    27 New Orleans – Sidney Rice WR South Carolina
    28 New England – Anthony Spencer LB Purdue
    29 Baltimore – Jon Beason LB Miami
    30 San Diego – Aaron Ross CB Texas
    31 Chicago – Lawrence Timmons LB Florida St
    32 Indianapolis – Paul Posluszny LB Penn St

    Second round

    33 Oakland – Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas
    34 Detroit – Ben Grubbs G Auburn
    35 New England (from Tampa Bay) – Josh Wilson CB Maryland
    36 Cleveland – Drew Stanton QB Michigan St
    37 Chicago (from Washington thru NY Jets) – Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St
    38 Arizona – Ray McDonald DE Florida
    39 Atlanta (from Houston) – Jarvis Moss DE Florida
    40 Arizona (from Miami) – Aaron Sears G Tennessee
    41 Minnesota – Craig Davis WR Louisiana St
    42 San Francisco – LaMarr Woodley LB Michigan
    43 Buffalo – Ryan Kalil C Southern Cal
    44 Atlanta – Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
    45 Carolina – Charles Johnson DE Georgia
    46 Pittsburgh – Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St
    47 Green Bay – Steve Smith WR Southern Cal
    48 Jacksonville – Brandon Siler LB Florida
    49 Cincinnati – Michael Griffin S Texas
    50 Tennessee – Brian Leonard RB Rutgers
    51 New York Giants – Justin Blalock G Texas
    52 St. Louis – Jason Hill WR Washington St
    53 Dallas – Ikaika Alama-Francis DE Hawaii
    54 Kansas City – Eric Wright CB Nevada-Las Vegas
    55 Seattle – Zach Miller TE Arizona St
    56 Denver – Tim Crowder DE Texas
    57 Philadelphia – Tank Tyler DT North Carolina St
    58 New Orleans – Doug Free OT Northern Illinois
    59 New York Jets – David Harris LB Michigan
    60 Miami (from New England) – Samson Satele C Hawaii
    61 Baltimore – James Marten OL Boston College
    62 San Diego – Johnnie Lee Higgins WR Texas-El Paso
    63 New York Jets (from Chicago) – David Irons CB Auburn
    64 Tampa Bay (from Indianapolis) – Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame

    Third round

    65 Oakland – Manny Ramirez G Texas Tech
    66 Detroit – Tarrell Brown CB Texas
    67 Cleveland – Aundrae Ellison WR East Carolina
    68 Tampa Bay – Troy Smith QB Ohio St
    69 Arizona – Quinn Pitcok DE Ohio St
    70 Denver (from Washington) – Eric Weddle S Utah
    71 Miami – Antonio Pittman RB Ohio St
    72 Minnesota – John Beck QB Brigham Young
    73 Houston – Rufus Alexander LB Oklahoma
    74 Buffalo – Tony Hunt RB Penn St
    75 Atlanta – Trent Edwards QB Stanford
    76 San Francisco – Aaron Rouse S Virginia Tech
    77 Pittsburgh – Turk McBride DT Tennessee
    78 Green Bay – Michael Bush RB Louisville
    79 Jacksonville – AJ Davis CB North Carolina St
    80 Tennessee – Tanard Jackson S Syracuse
    81 New York Giants – Tim Shaw LB Penn St
    82 St. Louis – Josh Gattis S Wake Forest
    83 Carolina – Ben Patrick TE Delaware
    84 Kansas City – Marshall Yanda OL Iowa
    85 Seattle – Andy Alleman G Akron
    86 Denver – Quentin Mozes DE Georgia
    87 Dallas – David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
    88 New Orleans – Daymeion Hughes CB California
    89 New York Jets – Marcus Thomas DL Florida
    90 Philadelphia – Michael Coe CB Alabama St
    91 New England – Stewart Bradley LB Nebraska
    92 Buffalo (from Baltimore) – Courtney Taylor WR Auburn
    93 San Diego – Antonio Johnson DE Mississippi St
    94 Chicago – Kenny Irons RB Auburn
    95 Indianapolis – Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
    96(c) San Diego – Mike Walker WR Central Florida
    97(c) San Francisco – Paul Williams WR Fresno St
    98(c) Indianapolis – Josh Beekman G Boston College
    99(c) Oakland – Scott Chandler TE Iowa

    Fourth Round

    100 Oakland – Brandon Mebane DT California
    101 Detroit – Michael Johnson S Arizona
    102 Tampa Bay – Earl Everett LB Florida
    103 Cleveland – Paul Soliai DT Utah
    104 San Francisco (from Washington) – Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon
    105 Miami (from Arizona) – Mansfield Wrotto G Georgia Tech
    106 Minnesota – Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan
    107 Houston – Jacoby Jones WR Lane
    108 Miami – Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame
    109 Atlanta – Dustin Fry C Clemson
    110 San Francisco – Buster Davis LB Florida St
    111 Buffalo – Antwan Barnes LB Florida International
    112 Green Bay – Courtney Brown CB Cal Poly
    113 Jacksonville – Mason Crosby K Colorado
    114 Cincinnati – Michael Okwo LB Stanford
    115 Tennessee – Justin Durant LB Hampton
    116 New York Giants – Zak DeOssie LB Brown
    117 St. Louis – Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech
    118 Carolina – Kevin Kolb QB Houston
    119 Pittsburgh – Daniel Sepulveda P Baylor
    120 Seattle – Rhema McKnight WR Notre Dame
    121 Atlanta (from Denver) – Chris Davis WR Florida St
    122 Dallas – Justin Medlock K UCLA
    123 New Orleans (from Kansas City )— Baraka Atkins DE Miami
    124 San Francisco (from NY Jets) – Jared Zabransky QB Boise St
    125 New Orleans (from Philadelphia) – Martrez Milner TE Georgia
    126 New Orleans – Travarous Bain CB Hampton
    127 New England – Darius Walker RB Notre Dame
    128 Tennessee (from Baltimore) – Jay Moore DE Nebraska
    129 San Diego – Lorenzo Booker RB Florida St
    130 Chicago – Isaiah Stanback QB Washington
    131 Indianapolis – Brandon Myles WR West Virginia
    132(c) Pittsburgh – HB Blades LB Pittsburgh
    133(c) Atlanta – DeShon Goldson S Washington
    134(c) Baltimore – Quincy Black LB New Mexico
    135(c) San Francisco – Jay Alford DT Penn St
    136(c) Indianapolis – Mike Otto OT Purdue
    137(c) Baltimore – Cory Anderson FB Tennessee
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    Fifth round

    138 Oakland – James Jones WR San Jose St
    139 Detroit – Doug Datish C Ohio St
    140 Cleveland – Michael Allan TE Whitworth
    141 Tampa Bay – Mike Jones G Iowa
    142 Arizona – Adam Koets OT Oregon St
    143 Washington – Marvin White S Texas Christian
    144 Houston – Adam Podlesh P Maryland
    145 Detroit (from Miami) – TRADE to New England (5th for two 6th
    rounders) Sabby Piscatelli S Oregon St
    146 Minnesota – Kareem Brown DT Miami
    147 San Francisco – Allen Barbre OT Missouri Southern St
    148 St. Louis (from Buffalo) – DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
    149 Atlanta – Kolby Smith RB Louisville
    150 Jacksonville – Tala Esera OT Hawaii
    151 Cincinnati – Eric Frampton S Washington St
    152 Tennessee – Anthony Arline CB Baylor
    153 New York Giants – Clark Harris TE Rutgers
    154 Detroit (from St. Louis) – Joe Newton TE Oregon St
    155 Carolina – Kevin Payne S Louisiana-Monroe
    156 Pittsburgh – Leroy Harris C North Carolina St
    157 Green Bay – Jordan Palmer QB Texas-El Paso
    158 Detroit (from Denver) – Jon Abbate LB Wake Forest
    159 Dallas – Garrett Wolfe RB Northern Illinois
    160 Kansas City – Tyler Palko QB Pittsburgh
    161 Seattle – Ryan McBean LB Oklahoma St
    162 Philadelphia – Kody Bliss P Auburn
    163 New Orleans – Nate Harris LB Louisville
    164 New York Jets – Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
    165 Oakland (from New England) – Daren Stone S Maine
    166 Baltimore – Yamon Figurs WR Kansas St
    167 San Diego – John Wendling S Wyoming
    168 Chicago – Brian Robinson DE Texas
    169 Indianapolis – CJ Gaddis S Clemson
    170(c) Pittsburgh – Jackie Battle RB Houston
    171(c) New England – Jeff Rowe QB Nevada
    172(c) San Diego – Laurent Robinson WR Illinois St
    173(c) Indianapolis – Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska
    174(c) Baltimore – Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota

    Sixth round

    175 Oakland – Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech
    176 Denver (from Detroit) -- Mark Fenton C Colorado
    177 New York Jets (from Tampa Bay) – Ryan Smith CB Florida
    178 Cleveland – Brandon Harrison S Stanford
    179 Washington – David Ball WR New Hampshire
    180 Detroit (from Arizona via New England) – Rory Johnson LB Mississippi
    181 Miami – Derek Landri DT Notre Dame
    182 Minnesota – Brandon McDonald CB Memphis
    183 Houston – Chris Henry RB Arizona
    184 Buffalo – Noland Burchette DE Virginia Tech
    185 Atlanta – Nick Folk K Arizona
    186 San Francisco – Nathan Bennett G Clemson
    187 Cincinnati – Herb Taylor OT Texas Christian
    188 Tennessee – Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma St
    189 New York Giants – Corey Graham CB New Hampshire
    190 St. Louis – Stephen Nicholas LB South Florida
    191 Carolina – Zach Latimer LB Oklahoma
    192 Pittsburgh – Tim Duckworth G Auburn
    193 Green Bay – Gabe Hall OT Texas Tech
    194 Jacksonville – Sam Olajubutu LB Arkansas
    195 Dallas – DeAndre Jackson CB Iowa St
    196 Kansas City – Dane Uperesa OT Hawaii
    197 Seattle – Jesse Daniels S LSU
    198 Denver – Dallas Sartz LB Southern California
    199 Miami (from New Orleans) – Enoka Lucas C Oregon
    200 Dallas (from New York Jets) – Cameron Stephenson G Rutgers
    201 Philadelphia – Juwan Simpson LB Alabama
    202 Detroit (from New England) – Jacob Bender OT Nicholls St
    203 Baltimore – Anthony Waters LB Clemson
    204 Tennessee (from San Diego) – Reggie Lewis CB Florida
    205 Washington (from Chicago) – KaMichael Hall LB Georgia Tech
    206 Tennessee (from Indianapolis) – Larry Anam CB Boston College
    207(c) Baltimore – David Patterson DT Ohio St
    208(c) New England – Quentin Echols NT Kansas St
    209(c) New England – CJ Wilson DB Baylor
    210(c) Seattle – Bo Smith CB Weber St

    Seventh round

    211 Oakland – Prescott Burgess LB Michigan
    212 Dallas (from Detroit thru NY Jets) – Stephon Heyer OT Maryland
    213 Cleveland – Desmond Bishop LB California
    214 Tampa Bay – Jacob Ford DE Central Arkansas
    215 Arizona – Dan Santucci G Notre Dame
    216 Washington – Kasey Studdard G Texas
    217 Minnesota – Dwayne Wright RB Fresno St
    218 Houston – Brandon Sharp S Louisville
    219 Miami – Steve Breaston WR Michigan
    220 New Orleans (from Atlanta) – Dan Mozes C West Virginia
    221 Chicago (from SF thru Cleveland) – Chad Nkang S Elon
    222 Buffalo – Jonny Harline TE Brigham Young
    223 Tennessee – Joel Filani WR Texas Tech
    224 New York Giants – Drew Mormino C Central Michigan
    225 St. Louis – Jordan Kent WR Oregon
    226 Carolina – Chris Denman OT Fresno St
    227 Pittsburgh – Brandon Mitchell S Ohio St
    228 Green Bay – Robert Turner G New Mexico
    229 Jacksonville – Gerald Alexander S Boise St
    230 Cincinnati – Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall
    231 Kansas City – Syvelle Newton WR South Carolina
    232 Seattle – Matt Toeaina DT Oregon
    233 Denver – Ramonce Taylor RB Texas
    234 Dallas – Chris Leak QB Florida
    235 Green Bay (from NY Jets) – Xzavie Jackson DE Missouri
    236 Philadelphia – Dante Rosario TE Oregon
    237 Dallas (from New Orleans) – Justin Hickman LB UCLA
    238 Arizona (from New England via Miami) – Scott Stephenson C Iowa St
    239 Buffalo (from Baltimore) – Jason Snelling FB Virginia
    240 San Diego – Derek Schouman FB Boise St
    241 Chicago – CJ Ah You DE Oklahoma
    242 Indianapolis – Toby Korrodi QB Central Missouri St
    243(c) Green Bay – Matt Trannon WR Michigan St
    244(c) Atlanta – Kelvin Smith LB Syracuse
    245(c) Tampa Bay – Legedu Naanee WR Boise St
    246(c) Tampa Bay – Craig Dahl S North Dakota St
    247(c) New England – Ded Harrington LB Missouri
    248(c) St. Louis – Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee
    249(c) St. Louis – Anthony Pudewell TE Nevada
    250(c) New York Giants – Brian Wingert K Northern Iowa
    251(c) Jacksonville – Luke Getsy QB Akron
    252(c) Jacksonville – Ryne Robinson Miami (OH)
    253(c) Cincinnati – Keith Jackson DT Arkansas
    254(c) Oakland – Zac Taylor QB Nebraska
    255(c) Detroit – Kyle Cook G Michigan St

    That makes the New England Haul:

    28. Anthony Spencer OLB
    35. Josh Wilson CB
    91. Stewart Bradley ILB
    127. Darius Walker RB
    145. Sabby Piscatelli SS
    171. Jeff Rowe QB
    208. Quentin Echols NT
    209. CJ Wilson FS
    247. Ded Harrington ILB
    And a 2nd and 4th in 2008

    Just like Christmas in April.
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  3. ayjackson

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    Good effort. I guess I'd be pretty happy with that draft - especially with the #2 & #4 picked up for 2008.

    Nothing these days is making me do cartwheels though. Except trading up for Adams or maybe Landry.
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    Nice work all around. One of the things I particularly appreciate about this draft is that you remembered the QB position! A lot of Pats' mocks are posted here with QB absent, or at best an afterthought. A guy like Rowe in the 5th looks right to me.
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    While I admit Adams is a talent, where would he play on our defense? Who sits while he is in?
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    Not bad heatster. Don't agree with the Browns taking Peterson. They need to build their line. It won't matter who they have at RB if their line isn't better.

    I don't care for the Spencer pick.

    I think that McKnight going in the 4th round is high.

    Why would Houston take Chris Henry in the 6th when they already have Green, Gado, Lundy, and Dayne?

    I don't care for the Darius Walker pick.

    Rowe or a similar QB can be had as a UDFA.

    I didn't know who Echols was and I understand why, now. He's a waste of a pick. Why draft someone if he's not even as good as the guy on our practice squad?
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    Adams would be developing as an OLB. You move Vrabel inside and rotate Colvin, Adams and Thomas.
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    I don't think so. I think this draft is weak at the QB position and you will see more UDGA QBs than those drafted. Also, there are numerous vets out there currently. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats bring in a nobody for TC and then sign a vet as well.
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    Interesting pick.
    Question,
    Why take him at 28, with Woodley still on the board? I like Spencer but is he better than Woodley?, He's just as much of a project, especially since he's never been a LB in his life. He was a D-Linemen in HS, and DE all four years at Purdue. I know he dropped into coverage, but he never played OLB/ILB for any significant time. Woodley was an OLB for two years, and he's put up better numbers. He's not any faster than Woodley 4.63-4.75 40 times compared to Woodley's 4.67-4.72 40 times. I'd be fine with the pick, I'm just interested to know why you grabbed Spencer instead of Woodley. You also like him over Beason, or Harris?
    I like this pick. Does he go that high, though?
    I think he goes higher, probably mid-second or early third. Good pick if he's there, but I doubt it.
    Why take Darius Walker with Lorenzo Booker still on the board? I think Walker is overhyped. Also, Walker doesn't have the home run capability as Booker, and while he does have good receiving skills Booker is better at lining up at WR. I think if you're drafting a 3rd down back Booker is the better of the two.
    You think he'll last to the fifth round? I've been saying I don't want Sabby but that's mostly because everyone keeps projecting him in the third round. I'd take him in the fifth, but again does he last this long?
    Why take a QB this high? Couldn't you get one in the seventh, or FA?
    He's ranked 23 out of 26 DT's, he's short (6'), and slow (5.41 - 40). He sounds like a FA to me. He's got the low center of gravity and weight to play NT, but he's probably a 7th or FA.
    I almost took him myself, but he's got attitude problems, is slow, and is projected as a Late rounder/FA.
    Might be a good pick. He could be a FA pickup, though.
    I like that. Extra picks for next year is always something good to have.

    Additional questions:

    1) Why do you have Chris Davis going in the fourth?
    2) Why is Dallas taking Meriweather at 22?
    3) wouldn't Carolina take a Safety, DL, WR, or LB first? they drafted Richard Marshall in the high second just last year, and he's good.
    I'm curious to see your answers.

    Thanks for your time

    - SP
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    unbelievable effort!! I have a hard time getting through round 1 let alone all 7. I am not sure if I am sold on Spencer because I think what he does well would not be what the Patriots would look for him to do. Love the Bradley pick as he is a favorite of mine as well. Great effort.
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    Okay, first batch of answers to some selected inquiries. I had a meeting to get to, so I didn't add my usual commentary. I'll try to add it later today, or for at least the Patriots guys.

    Adams who? I don't have any Adams being drafted by New England. Or are you a Redskins fan?

    You mean a has-been and a never-was and two never-will bes? Why not? It's a sixth rounder. And I don't think any of those guys except Lundy is under contract past this year.

    Quite possibly. I think at this point in the draft (late in the fifth round) any player we pick will have similar players later or in FA.

    If I'm not mistaken, you used the same phrase on a sixth rounder in my mock last year. I appreciate the consistency. From the recaps I've read, Echols was the best player at practice and on the field at the East-West Shrine game. He'll almost certainly make it to the Practice Squad, and with more teams going to the 3-4, we need NTs on the practice squad to give the offense good looks. At best, he can spell Wilfork in a year or two. As much as I like Wright, he just can't hold the middle against the run.

    Yes. Obviously. If I liked Woodley, Beason, or Harris better, I would've had us taking Woodley, Beason, or Harris. For the record, I would also be happy with Woodley or ILB Harris. Beason, not so much.

    It's pick #209 in the draft. Doesn't that qualify as a Late Rounder? Folks, we're the New England F*cking Patriots. We don't have a lot of holes that we need to fill with picks on day two. You can argue and find fault with literally any player I pencil in here. That's why they're day two picks.

    The guy I have going #247? You think?

    Thanks for the comments, everybody. Positive and Negative both.
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    And my first edit is coming, as Miami has traded Olindo Mare to New Orleans for the Saints sixth rounder....
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    I was being nice with my questions, so I don't appreciate the sarcasm.
    I even said "thanks for your time", I guess that's what you get for being nice to people:rolleyes:
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    And I said "Thanks for the comments". I'm sorry, I just don't have the time or inclination to debate sixth and seventh (or even first) round picks with every poster who has a difference in opinion. We've done that in so many threads over the last six weeks.

    I appreciate what you've brought to the forum this offseason. Every year we see a few more really knowledgeable draftsters in here, and it strengthens the debate. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true.

    Good luck with your rehab.
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    Good, because apart from the Saints selection in the 6th, the mock was excellent. ;)
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    I know it is hard to anticipate, but I think Jeff Samarzjida (sp) will see his name flash and get a call from a professional team. I don't know what teams would take that risk when you consider that they would have to tender him to gain his rights and they would only own those rights for a year.

    Seeing the Patriots have a winning season and thinking that he could be part of that might bring him back into the football scene.

    I think analyst are on meds sometimes. Some had him going in the first. Then he says baseball is his choice and those analysts think he was too slow to start with and was average at best. That was the picture they painted after some had him ranked in the first round.
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    I don't think he'll decide baseball isn't for him in 2 years. Someone (could) waste a pick I suppose.
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    I hope to god none of that mock comes true.
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    Cousin,
    A lot of work there. Good job. I don't agree with all of your pics but that is what makes it interesting. Like Sabby and Bradley although neither might last in their respective rounds.Hope so! Like Spencer but he is a project. The Pats need a ILB to start or play a bunch this year. Can't wait two to three years on Spencer, unless you have in mind to pick up a Hartwell as a stopgap. I think Harris could be inserted now with the least amount of grief. Fits the Ted Johnson role.
    Why is everybody infatuated with 5' 8" Wilson? We have two tiny CB's right now (o.k. Assante is 5' 10"). Is there something about this kid no one knows about? He is rated as a great little DB who "will make a superb nickel back". Anyone remember Chris Canty we drafted near the top of the draft for a darn nickel back? Who is going to cover the 6' 3" and 6' 5" receivers? I don't get it. I don't care if this kid spits nails, he's not covering TJ, TO, Cotchery, Fitzgerald, Colson, Bolton, Plexico, Williams, Moose or CJ etc. Didn't anybody see Hobbs struggle in the red zone with some of these taller dudes? Why waste a second rounder on a tiny nickel back? I've dated bigger women. But....they were ugly.
    McCauley is 6' 1" and as fast. He had a bad year for a bad defense but is still talented or even Ross from Texas. I think underneath the bad year, McCauley is still the best CB in the draft.
    Darius Walker might not work for me. I think we need a pounder. Walker hits the turf very easy. Good hands though. Not really that fast either.
    Still all and all, I know this took some time. Thank you for sharing it with us.
    DW Toys
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    You don't like Gaines Adams? The guy is a monster and would look great lined up opposite Colvin or Thomas.


    Ron Dayne was actually pretty good for the Texans. Lundy is very highly thought of by the Texans organization. Gado showed 2 years ago that he was able to carry the load for Green Bay when they brought him in off the practice squad.

    As for Ahman Green, if he splits the carries with the others, I think you will be surprised. Again, I don't see the Texans drafting Henry.


    Really? Almost certainly make it to the practice squad? Am I supposed to be impressed by that? Come on. Echols is said to be tire easily and not be strong at the point of attack. How can you want someone who isn't strong at the point of attack?

    And Wilfork has trouble holding the middle against the run at times also. But no more so than Wright does

    I leave you with this question. What is it about Echols that makes you believe he can take the spot from LeKevin Smith?
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    24 New England (from Seattle) – TRADE to Tampa Bay (1st for 2nd and
    2008 2nd & 4th) Marshawn Lynch RB California

    Am I missing something? Why would Tampa trade to draft Marshawn Lynch when they already have Cadillac Williams? ...not to mention an already crowded backfield with Michael Pittman, B.J. Askew, and Mike Alstott.
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    I would be very dissapointed if 1/2 of this draft happened.
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    Dryheat,

    Nice work. Thank you for putting the time and effort into the mock draft. The rest of the draft niks we can debate up and down but we do not know what is in the mind of these head coaches.

    and it makes perfect sense for TB to take Lynch because who else is there except for Cadillac who did not stay healthy the past couple of years.
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    Askew is strictly a full-back. Pittman was a good rb. Alstott is the FB/RB mix.

    Cadillac hasn't been able to stay healthy, missing 2 games + some of others so far.
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    While Echols didn't make my board, I don't see any issue with bringing in a second day DT for the competition. You may prefer someone else, I've got my preferences, but recent fan favorite Ty Warren didn't get the highest marks for endurance as I recall.
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    First, I want to say that dryheat indeeed put a heck of a lot of work into creating this 7 round mock. Well done, sir.

    Okay, now back to the topic of Cadillac Williams. What if Laurence Maroney runs for 1000+ yards this year, but only plays 14 games? (Cadillac has started 14 games in each of his two seasons) Should we trade away valuable draft picks to select a running back in the 1st round? Of course not.
    C'mon man - don't start thinking like a Lions GM. :) Cadillac Williams is a very good running back...nobody spends a 1st round pick to upgrade their backup situation.
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    Second batch:

    This was interesting. I didn't plan on Sabby being there and in fact it hit me like I imagine it would an actual GM. I was trying to see who was a good target for Detroit, and noticed his name, and said "How is he still here" and traded up. I think as Patriots fans, we concentrate so much on Patriots-type players that we forget about a lot of players highly regarded by other teams.

    Williams so far has been a minor bust and may never be an every down back. Askew doesn't carry the ball. Alstott is done -- retired then changed his mind. Pittman has very little left in the tank. Jon Gruden, who isn't known for his poker face, has a raging hard-on for Lynch to hear him gush over him.

    I like Gaines Adams very much. I have him going #6 overall to Washington. I'm not sure why we're discussing how he would fit in the Patriots scheme.

    Honestly. It's a late sixth round pick. I could put literally ANY AVAILABLE PLAYER in that slot, and you or someone else would say "He sucks. Too slow/short/fat/weak/inexperienced". That's why they are still on the board late in the sixth round. I'm sure all of us have our pet projects, he's one of mine.

    I'm sorry reads a bit awkward to me. Are you saying that Wright is as good of an NT against the run as Wilfork is?

    I see no reason why he can't. LeKevin is probably #53 on the roster and his career highlight has been practice player of the week once. LeKevin is also playing out of position at NT. Why not roll the dice on a kid who fits the NT mold perfectly, and see if he can develop into a serviceable backup with some coaching. We've kept Ethan Kelley and Santonio Thomas on the roster/PS for a few years for this reason.


    If I've called half of the 255 picks correctly, I'll eat my desk. So I think you're safe.

    I have Spencer as an OLB. I agree Harris would be a great ILB prospect for this team, but I went for a cornerback there and waited on Bradley. I'll explain the Specer decision more in my next post.
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    Explanation time:

    28. Anthony Spencer OLB -- With this pick, I am allowing what I watched on Saturday afternoons override combine and pro day performances. He looked better than Woodley with a much worse supporting cast around him. I am a bit leery of spending a first round pick on a part time player, but in this scenario all the logical targets are gone, and it is late in the round. My vision for Spencer in 2007 is the Tully Banta-Cain 2005-2006 role, which admittedly isn't the ideal use of a first rounder. With coaching, he should be able to mature into an every down OLB by 2009. He should also prove valuable when we play 4-3.

    35. Josh Wilson CB - After Revis, I think Wilson is the best man-to-man corner in the draft. He's shorter than ideal, but he has nice instincts, leaping ability, and positioning technique. Great recovery speed. A+ character. Willing and sure tackler. Playing at Maryland, which plays a similar D to New England, he was left alone in man-to-man frequently, and acquitted himself well against guys like Calvin Johnson, Chris Davis, and Chansi Stuckey. If he were 5'11" we'd be talking about possibly trading up to grab him with a first round pick.

    91. Stewart Bradley ILB -- The best bet at this point to make an immediate contribution at ILB. Projects to a solid starter down the road. Bryan Cox without the attitude.

    127. Darius Walker RB -- After AP, the most complete RB in the draft. He's fallen about two-and-a-half rounds since running a 4.54 or so at the combine. But he has a quick first step and has some wiggle. Also the most ready RB to play in the passing game. He could take over for Kevin Faulk next year, but has the ability for a spot start if necessary.

    145. Sabby Piscatelli SS - Great 5th round value. Great intangibles and extremely versatile.

    171. Jeff Rowe QB -- Matt Cassel is going to be a tradeable commodity shortly. Time to get somebody ready to go. The two non-first rounders I like are Rowe and Beck, but Beck looks to go in the first day now. This guy is going to play in the league for a long time. Could we wait until later? Probably, but why? Who else is going to help us more at this point?

    208. Quentin Echols NT - Ideal size for NT. Dominated Shrine Game. Played against good competition. Should get to the PS and hopefully develop into a serviceable backup. This late we're not going to find many people to contribute to the team this year.

    209. CJ Wilson FS - Mediocre cornerback, but I think he could be a good free safety, and a good value as such in this spot.

    247. Ded Harrington ILB - Developmental ILB. Good kid and good frame and skill set. Needs coaching.

    And a 2nd and 4th in 2008 -- This is too much. My first trade had us getting #64. Since we have received #35 instead, next year's compensation would be more like a second and a sixth.
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    I am all for competition as well. But, I also look at the Pats roster and wonder if the Pats would draft a player who they might feel isn't as good as what is on their practice squad or what is already at #53.

    I just think that Echols can be had as a UDFA.
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    I think your draft is pretty good except for Round 1 and 2. :D
    Both picks seem to be reaches. Spencer is actually not a bad gamble, a bit short, Josh Wilson has talent, but really short. Would have liked to see some prototypical players taken on the 1st day instead. Do we really need a poor man's ellis hobbs and another OLB that will come in as the TBC role with our early picks?
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